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Flare65

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Re: Hardest turbo/pce shooters? Shooters tier list?
« Reply #15 on: November 13, 2014, 08:39:54 AM »
Heavy Unit for PCE was tough...  I never finished Psycho Chaser.  Has anyone here finished those?

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Hardest turbo/pce shooters? Shooters tier list?
« Reply #16 on: November 13, 2014, 09:27:09 AM »
Heavy Unit for PCE was tough...  I never finished Psycho Chaser.  Has anyone here finished those?

Heavy Unit is really unbalanced...the beginning is ridiculously tricky, like, the first few moments of the game are literally going to scare away most folks...but then, later, when you power-up, you can stomp all over your opponents.

And, to be honest, some parts of the game seem genuinely interesting (Heavy Unit is not just another generic shootemup...you have a mech, and can walk, and the enemies/stages are OK).

But there is no learning curve...it will shift suddenly from TOO HARD to TOO EASY to MODERATE....

I'm pretty certain I beat PCE Heavy Unit years ago. However, it might have been on MAME (1999-2000, ha!)


I actually enjoy Pyscho Chaser but I have not beaten it. I actually haven't gotten more than halfway through it, I reckon, because I was chatting with someone (whom I trust implicitly) about it years ago and they were able to pinpoint my progress. He thought the game was one of the "under-appreciated" and "rarely-discussed" and I concur...

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Re: Hardest turbo/pce shooters? Shooters tier list?
« Reply #17 on: November 13, 2014, 03:28:58 PM »
I'll have to play em again sometime when I have some spare time.....work is killing me right now.  Always wanted to beat Psycho Chaser.

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« Reply #18 on: November 13, 2014, 07:33:03 PM »
Difficult or not, the PCE made me love shooters.

Shooters went from one of my least favorite genres to my most played after I got my PCE.

Tons of fun with loads of humor (or is it humour?) and character!

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Re: Hardest turbo/pce shooters? Shooters tier list?
« Reply #19 on: November 14, 2014, 05:47:38 AM »
My friend and I are getting our asses handed to us in Lords of Thunder.  It's been a while since I've played a shooter, though.

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Re: Hardest turbo/pce shooters? Shooters tier list?
« Reply #20 on: November 14, 2014, 11:09:33 AM »
ROCK ON

Definitely the most hardest, craziest shooter I´ve ever played. Intentionally missing power-ups to survive in the game is something I have never come across and really gives you a hard time, as the screen is COVERED with them...
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« Reply #21 on: November 14, 2014, 02:20:08 PM »
ROCK ON

Definitely the most hardest, craziest shooter I´ve ever played. Intentionally missing power-ups to survive in the game is something I have never come across and really gives you a hard time, as the screen is COVERED with them...


TheBrothersDuomazov has a review for the whole game, including a guide for the horiffying Level 3 Maze. :)

http://www.thebrothersduomazov.com/2009/07/rock-on.html

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Re: Hardest turbo/pce shooters? Shooters tier list?
« Reply #22 on: November 15, 2014, 02:30:02 AM »
TheBrothersDuomazov has a review for the whole game, including a guide for the horiffying Level 3 Maze. :)

http://www.thebrothersduomazov.com/2009/07/rock-on.html


Yes, I know. But I was so horrified already by the beginning of Level 3, that I stopped playing it. I got so enraged by dying so many many MANY times, that I decided not to touch it again.
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Re: Hardest turbo/pce shooters? Shooters tier list?
« Reply #23 on: November 15, 2014, 06:49:19 AM »
One game that pissed me of is Atomic Robo Kid Special. It's 45 minutes a playthrough, but die on the final boss and you're screwed. It's so cheap and fast.

Shame cuz I like the game. The final boss makes it impossible. The only way I would beat this game again would be to have a save-state at the final boss. Unless there is a way to recover.

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« Reply #24 on: August 01, 2016, 01:14:58 PM »
One game that pissed me of is Atomic Robo Kid Special. It's 45 minutes a playthrough, but die on the final boss and you're screwed. It's so cheap and fast.

Shame cuz I like the game. The final boss makes it impossible. The only way I would beat this game again would be to have a save-state at the final boss. Unless there is a way to recover.

I'm now older, handsomer, and wiser. I have finally beat the game even after dying on the final boss. Stupid big arm.

Sorry for the Necro post in advance...might be interesting to continue the thread?

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Re: Hardest turbo/pce shooters? Shooters tier list?
« Reply #25 on: August 02, 2016, 04:44:08 AM »
I think psychosis and legion are some hard ones for me. dont like how psychosis suffers from slowdown

I couldn't make it anywhere in Legion. I remember saying the words "cheap shit!" a lot, and then the click of the power button.

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Re: Hardest turbo/pce shooters? Shooters tier list?
« Reply #26 on: August 02, 2016, 01:31:46 PM »
Raiden for TG-16. Anyone oppose? Go suck it because Karl Marx says so.
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« Reply #27 on: August 02, 2016, 01:35:16 PM »
I agree. Raiden and Tatsujin are both up there in my book. Both have the same issue of slow player ship, fast enemy bullets.

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Re: Hardest turbo/pce shooters? Shooters tier list?
« Reply #28 on: August 04, 2016, 02:41:15 PM »
I think psychosis and legion are some hard ones for me. dont like how psychosis suffers from slowdown

I couldn't make it anywhere in Legion. I remember saying the words "cheap shit!" a lot, and then the click of the power button.

Legion requires a lot of memorization otherwise you won't get very far.  One of the later levels is absolutely brutal with so many things to dodge and such a narrow space to navigate through.  Definitely has a lot of cheap kills through out the game but beatable with memorization and persistence.


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Re: Hardest turbo/pce shooters? Shooters tier list?
« Reply #29 on: August 05, 2016, 04:30:03 AM »
Most PCE shooters in my experience are pretty easy. After a week's worth of practice you're usually good enough to 1CC a shooter without thinking too much of it.

Paranoia/Psychosis is a snooze until the final level, which is actually a little bit challenging. The second loop is nuts though, but that's for the hard-core. Heavy Unit has a hard beginning and an easy everything-else-for-the-rest-of-two-loops, even Kyuukyoku Tiger is pretty boring until the second half of the game.

Legion is a hard game because it's a lousy game. Poorly-designed and oozing with Telenet """quality"""
To its credit, it's one of the hardest PCE shooters, but not for reasons that are worthwhile.

Rayxanber II is a game that is exceedingly strict on memorization and execution, and it is also one of the hardest games on the system. It's an acquired taste, since it goes far beyond IREM in terms of memorization so it can seem excessive in terms of "be in this exact spot at this exact time." Since it has no power-up levels to speak of, recovery is fairly painless though.

The Konami games at higher loops are pretty worthy of the label of "hardest." On the plus side, games like Gradius II, Salamander, etc. are actually fantastic games, programmed by competent devs so their difficulty is a welcome challenge as opposed to eye-rolling, head-shaking frustration offered by lesser studios (see: Telenet).

I recently beat Compile's Xevious remake (Fardraut) and it's a fairly tough game, because it seems to relish in belching bullets all over the screen - a little sloppy at points honestly, because it seems like you NEED a shield to get through some parts. Since I could 1CC it though, it can't be that hard.  8)
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