Author Topic: That Tobias f--k went after Xak III and SO II as pressed CD-ROM releases!  (Read 36961 times)

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NightWolve, if Tobias wasn't going to press them and you had the opportunity to, would you really have pressed Ys4?
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However, from the dealings with Nightwolve, he seems like a somewhat morally defunct, but trying to-do-right guy. I can't align the two in my head. They say a tiger can't change his stripes... but it sounds like Tobias has.

Seriously? He's making a big mockery out of the Copyright laws by pressing other companies' work for profit in plain view, which is funny because he isn't in Vietnam or China but in a place that actually cares about intellectual property. Want to bet how much that if his work went "mainstream" with sites like Kotaku and others bringing his work to light in various articles, he would be screwed and jailed for at least a quarter of his life? He's making bootlegs at will, and I bet he has to at least claim ownership of IP so the factory can press these games. Not to mention translators getting f*cked in the ass XSEED style.

For me what he's doing now and what he has done with Sapphire has equal relevance.

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Honestly I wish that smaller, still existing companies from the PCE era would sell their older games by mail order to their niche audience. Maybe even now-big companies like KONAMI+Hudson, with a tiny two man staff to handle this kind of stuff which honestly can't cost much. It's basically pick up a retail copy of game X at archives/super overpriced potato, make 1:1 digital copy, send to replicator for 10 or more copies to be done, ship to mail order waiting line, collect cash, enforce IP rights automatically, receive the praise of press and hardcore fans. RIP 16 bit era disc bootleggers.

This was a double post. Thank you.

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1. So Tobias is planning to press Ys IV and has possibly already started? And he's going to give them away for free just like he said he would do with Xak III? I wish that were true and not being sold for profit, but I guess we'll just have to see if these popup for sale. There's also the risk that some people might jump at an opportunity to get the pressed discs for free and resell them anyway, which would be difficult to tell if it is truly Tobias / PCE Memories' operation.

2. I got pretty excited when you said that you planned to make your own pressing of Ys IV. If you ended up doing that, I'd definitely want to buy it from you directly.

3. I guess by from what I read by Bernie's post, Burnt Lasagna isn't liked by everyone here. He seemed like a pretty cool guy to me at least when I was working on the Ys IV Dub project with him.

-Thomas

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That Tobias f--k went after Xak III and SO II as pressed CD-ROM releases!
« Reply #304 on: March 26, 2015, 03:02:53 PM »
1. So Tobias is planning to press Ys IV and has possibly already started? And he's going to give them away for free just like he said he would do with Xak III? I wish that were true and not being sold for profit, but I guess we'll just have to see if these popup for sale. There's also the risk that some people might jump at an opportunity to get the pressed discs for free and resell them anyway, which would be difficult to tell if it is truly Tobias / PCE Memories' operation.

2. I got pretty excited when you said that you planned to make your own pressing of Ys IV. If you ended up doing that, I'd definitely want to buy it from you directly.

3. I guess by from what I read by Bernie's post, Burnt Lasagna isn't liked by everyone here. He seemed like a pretty cool guy to me at least when I was working on the Ys IV Dub project with him.

-Thomas

Tobias is a douchebag profiteer. Don't support him. He is not a friend of this community 

BurntLasagna is someone who didn't want folks to make a profit by selling reproductions (in other words, Tobias). He said: PCE fans, make your own personal copies, enjoy the English-language dub!

I support BurntLasagna's wishes.

I will always support the folks who hack/modify/translate/dub/create games.  These folks, and the fruits of their labor, are far more important than some collectard fetish for a f*cking mass-produced reproduction.

LightScribe your own disc and print your own manual/insert. It really isn't that difficult.

www.tg-16.com/print_your_own_stuff.htm
« Last Edit: March 26, 2015, 03:07:34 PM by esteban »
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1. So Tobias is planning to press Ys IV and has possibly already started? And he's going to give them away for free just like he said he would do with Xak III? I wish that were true and not being sold for profit, but I guess we'll just have to see if these popup for sale. There's also the risk that some people might jump at an opportunity to get the pressed discs for free and resell them anyway, which would be difficult to tell if it is truly Tobias / PCE Memories' operation.
-Thomas


Tobias is a douchebag profiteer. Don't support him. He is not a friend of this community 

BurntLasagna is someone who didn't want folks to make a profit by selling reproductions (in other words, Tobias). He said: PCE fans, make your own personal copies, enjoy the English-language dub!

I support BurntLasagna's wishes.

I will always support the folks who hack/modify/translate/dub/create games.  These folks, and the fruits of their labor, are far more important than some collectard fetish for a f*cking mass-produced reproduction.

LightScribe your own disc and print your own manual/insert. It really isn't that difficult.

www.tg-16.com/print_your_own_stuff.htm


Oh I definitely want to make it clear that I do not personally want Tobia's pressed discs. I wasn't suggesting that. I have just about every Xak series release out there, but I don't want what Tobias is pushing. It has no value from a collector's standpoint, only a functional one of being a pressed disc. I was simply stating that I hope that Tobias keeps his word about not selling these. But I have my doubts, just as I have my doubts that some other person who gets one of these discs for free would be decent enough to not turn around and try to make a profit on it. It's just a bad situation no matter how you view it, with the only positive being that if Tobias did keep his word, at least he discs he's pressing for these would end after all the free copies are distributed.

I've made a lightscribe disc before for personal use for Ys IV shortly after the English Dub project was completed. But having learned that playing cd-rs on the actual system can damage the laser much quicker and that a laser for a Turbo Duo RX machine may be rare/expensive to replace, I've been reluctant to play too many cd-rs lately until I can figure out a plan B of how to replace that laser.

So if NightWolve were to make a pressed disc, I'd be all over that, for one because it would be a pressed disc, and second because it would be something of value to me from a collector's standpoint because in my eyes, it came from an original source that made the translation possible and a friend. Kind of hard to put a price on that.

-Thomas

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Good work reporting his auctions. Yeah, I wondered who it was and saw that the seller is located in Germany, so it's either him, a proxy buddy, or one hell of a coincidence...


It should be noted that the ip address linked to emails from Tobias that I have been able to obtain, along with the one linked to his "SCANLINES DEMYSTIFIED" website come out of Germany, so odds are good that the ebay account is his or a close friend of his.

Also worth noting, Nick, you could probably sign up with Wordpress and file a copyright compliant in regards to the translation being used to sell the Xak software. As long as the translation is not exactly literal you could probably claim copyright on it, or call a bluff on it as far as WordPress goes to get Tobias blog/sales page kicked from their servers.

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That Tobias f--k went after Xak III and SO II as pressed CD-ROM releases!
« Reply #307 on: March 27, 2015, 09:54:29 AM »
1. So Tobias is planning to press Ys IV and has possibly already started? And he's going to give them away for free just like he said he would do with Xak III? I wish that were true and not being sold for profit, but I guess we'll just have to see if these popup for sale. There's also the risk that some people might jump at an opportunity to get the pressed discs for free and resell them anyway, which would be difficult to tell if it is truly Tobias / PCE Memories' operation.
-Thomas


Tobias is a douchebag profiteer. Don't support him. He is not a friend of this community 

BurntLasagna is someone who didn't want folks to make a profit by selling reproductions (in other words, Tobias). He said: PCE fans, make your own personal copies, enjoy the English-language dub!

I support BurntLasagna's wishes.

I will always support the folks who hack/modify/translate/dub/create games.  These folks, and the fruits of their labor, are far more important than some collectard fetish for a f*cking mass-produced reproduction.

LightScribe your own disc and print your own manual/insert. It really isn't that difficult.

www.tg-16.com/print_your_own_stuff.htm


Oh I definitely want to make it clear that I do not personally want Tobia's pressed discs. I wasn't suggesting that. I have just about every Xak series release out there, but I don't want what Tobias is pushing. It has no value from a collector's standpoint, only a functional one of being a pressed disc. I was simply stating that I hope that Tobias keeps his word about not selling these. But I have my doubts, just as I have my doubts that some other person who gets one of these discs for free would be decent enough to not turn around and try to make a profit on it. It's just a bad situation no matter how you view it, with the only positive being that if Tobias did keep his word, at least he discs he's pressing for these would end after all the free copies are distributed.

I've made a lightscribe disc before for personal use for Ys IV shortly after the English Dub project was completed. But having learned that playing cd-rs on the actual system can damage the laser much quicker and that a laser for a Turbo Duo RX machine may be rare/expensive to replace, I've been reluctant to play too many cd-rs lately until I can figure out a plan B of how to replace that laser.

So if NightWolve were to make a pressed disc, I'd be all over that, for one because it would be a pressed disc, and second because it would be something of value to me from a collector's standpoint because in my eyes, it came from an original source that made the translation possible and a friend. Kind of hard to put a price on that.

-Thomas


Comrade, I'm sorry. When I re-read my post, it sounded pretty abrasive. Sorry. I was really just venting, I did not mean to direct it at you (100%). Maybe 30% was intended for you, ha!!!

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Anyway, hugs and kisses :)


As for the CDR and track sled issue....I can never remember if we came to a consensus on that one...if there is anyone I would trust, it would be thesteve. I don't know if it causes damage or is simply a nuisance.
« Last Edit: March 27, 2015, 09:57:44 AM by esteban »
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Comrade, I'm sorry. When I re-read my post, it sounded pretty abrasive. Sorry. I was really just venting, I did not mean to direct it at you (100%). Maybe 30% was intended for you, ha!!!

Hey no issues here, I didn't take offense or anything like that, I just wanted to make sure I was clear about what I said since it looked like I might have thrown some people off. I just wanted to explain that I'm a pretty serious Xak fan and collector, and I do not see value in what Tobias has because it's fake. For something like a pressing of Xak III to have real value to me as a hardcore collector, it needs to be from a project that has the original team's blessing...

Hmm, that could make a funny "Obey"picture actually. A Pope or Archbishop giving a pressed PC-Engine disk a sign of benediction / blessing it...

Edit: It shall be done!



-Thomas
« Last Edit: March 27, 2015, 05:14:14 PM by SkyeWelse »

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ASIDE: ^ you have to add that image to this thread started years ago...you might jumpstart the creative energy and get more folks contributing to it.




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Great sales pitch

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It is impressive his PR marketing effort to push his wares beyond that website of his... Wonder how he did it besides hitting them up and shipping them a bunch of free copies. May have actually hired a professional PR rep or something.

EDIT: Oh, interesting, he actually addressed this forum, my response to Tobias, etc. albeit briefly. Surprised... Of course, looks like he cares far more about the packaging not living up to previous standards set by Tobias in the past. ;) Heh.
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It is impressive his PR marketing effort to push his wares beyond that website of his... Wonder how he did it besides hitting them up and shipping them a bunch of free copies. May have actually hired a professional PR rep or something.

EDIT: Oh, interesting, he actually addressed this forum, my response to Tobias, etc. albeit briefly. Surprised... Of course, looks like he cares far more about the packaging not living up to previous standards set by Tobias in the past. ;) Heh.

Thanks for touching on it, I was curious as to your opinion as he mentions it as being amicable and in the process of being resolved.

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Well, for Tru, I guess it got resolved somewhat to his satisfaction, Tobias sent him a copy of all multi pack releases (all the memories packs, etc.) and a phony promise down the road that "when there's net profit, he'll see a cut..." I stopped at his last email and didn't act on anything further given his revelation that he already pressed Ys IV - that really threw me off... I'm just not thinking about it anymore. And man, getting an idea of his numbers and with past work/releases, this mofo can actually live off his bootleg business... You'd be surprised the money that he's managed to pull in.

Anyhow, it wasn't resolved with me cause I didn't reply back to his last email which offered the same as Tru, copies of all his wares and a possible idea on what to do with the Ys IV CDs he already pressed (we've already seen his $1/pop cut BS). I'm just pretty pissed and already had XSEED issues on my mind, so I sort of postponed any attention to him/it... :/
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if you can't beat em, join em! Lets translate the entire library, repro it, and get rich! :D I've always wanted to already snort(ed) cocain(e) off a hooker's ass, this might be the only way I'll ever realize this dream. Now I want to snort cocaine off two hookers' asses! At the same time!!!

seriously.

let's start with lady phantom and move on to the dragon knight games after that.

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