Author Topic: That Tobias f--k went after Xak III and SO II as pressed CD-ROM releases!  (Read 36909 times)

DarkKobold

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Re: That Tobias f--k went after Xak III and SO II as pressed CD-ROM releases!
« Reply #90 on: February 23, 2015, 09:24:19 AM »
Why not just alert whom ever still owns the IP of these games of what he is doing to shut it down?

Depending upon the size of the original IP holder ...
[ul][li]is the legal dept on-staff or external?[/li][li]how busy are they?[/li][li]how far up the management chain does a decision on how to respond go?[/li][li]how many meetings and man hours is it going to take to get that decision?[/li][/ul]


Sometimes, the reality is that no one knows who actually owns the IP. That, in and of itself, becomes problematic. Xak III was developed and published by Microcabin and NEC. It isn't always clear which retained intellectual property rights. Hell, they may not even know if they own it.

Assuming it was NEC, they got out of the video game business 20+ years ago. They would have zero financial interest to pursue anyone violating a copyright on game software they hold. You could end up emailing everyone from the CEO to their legal department to their janitorial staff, and not find a party even interested enough to send a basic C&D.

If it was Microcabin... the situation is even more messy. They were bought by AQ interactive, and then AQ sold 85% of their stake of Microcabin to "Fields Corporation."  Who owns the actual IP at that point? And once again, would you find anyone at the company even remotely interested in protecting IP that is from a defunct subsidiary? Maybe.

Victor Ireland talked at length about the difficulties in bringing over and securing IP in an old Retronauts podcast:

http://n4g.com/news/986536/1up-retronauts-podcast-victor-ireland-talks-about-the-rise-and-fall-of-working-designs

Unfortunately, thanks to the destruction of 1up, that link won't take you to the actual podcast. However, its a great episode, and worth a listen. He had a helluva time trying to figure out who owned IP, and that was for a legitimate purpose, his day job. Trying to track down a defunct IP owner to cause hell over a small repro run is going to be more difficult.
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Re: That Tobias f--k went after Xak III and SO II as pressed CD-ROM releases!
« Reply #91 on: February 23, 2015, 10:02:48 AM »
Why not just alert whom ever still owns the IP of these games of what he is doing to shut it down?

Like elmer said, they most likely won't give a f*ck.  If they do, where does it end?  If they shut down Tobias, don't be surprised if they went after everyone else, like those making repro manuals, hosting scans of manuals/magazines/etc., hosting pre-patched isos, or even those that made the patches themselves.
Exactly. Most likely they don't give a f*ck. If they do and you report it, you bring unwanted attention to everyone. That's why the original translators should do this, undercut his ass or stfu.

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Re: That Tobias f--k went after Xak III and SO II as pressed CD-ROM releases!
« Reply #92 on: February 23, 2015, 10:07:28 AM »

I dunno. I'm just tired of hearing about this shit.

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Re: That Tobias f--k went after Xak III and SO II as pressed CD-ROM releases!
« Reply #93 on: February 23, 2015, 10:08:25 AM »

I dunno. I'm just tired of hearing about this shit.

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Re: That Tobias f--k went after Xak III and SO II as pressed CD-ROM releases!
« Reply #94 on: February 23, 2015, 10:21:49 AM »
stfu troll

Your respect meter has just went up! About time you grew some balls and picked a side and said something that didn't require your nose being shoved directly into their ass.  :dance: If i was there with you i would be there with a hug  :oops:

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That Tobias f--k went after Xak III and SO II as pressed CD-ROM releases!
« Reply #95 on: February 23, 2015, 11:29:03 AM »

I dunno. I'm just tired of hearing about this shit.

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You're the one complaining about being "tired of hearing" about a topic that you obviously voluntarily entered this thread to read about, yet I'm the troll.
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Re: That Tobias f--k went after Xak III and SO II as pressed CD-ROM releases!
« Reply #96 on: February 23, 2015, 11:30:48 AM »

I dunno. I'm just tired of hearing about this shit.

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You're the one complaining about being "tired of hearing" about a topic that you obviously voluntarily entered this thread to read about, yet I'm the troll.
Dude its sarcasm. Relax. This isn't the first time this bitch fest has raised its head.

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Re: That Tobias f--k went after Xak III and SO II as pressed CD-ROM releases!
« Reply #97 on: February 23, 2015, 11:32:24 AM »
Y'all stop fighting.  Lol

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Re: That Tobias f--k went after Xak III and SO II as pressed CD-ROM releases!
« Reply #99 on: February 23, 2015, 12:03:41 PM »
Y'all stop fighting and praise the goddamned sun already.

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Re: That Tobias f--k went after Xak III and SO II as pressed CD-ROM releases!
« Reply #100 on: February 23, 2015, 12:05:48 PM »
Y'all stop fighting and praise the goddamned sun already.
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Re: That Tobias f--k went after Xak III and SO II as pressed CD-ROM releases!
« Reply #101 on: February 23, 2015, 12:28:31 PM »
Y'all stop fighting and praise the goddamned sun already.

No!  (Chants)  The night time is the right time.  The night time is the right time.  The night time is the right time.

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Re: That Tobias f--k went after Xak III and SO II as pressed CD-ROM releases!
« Reply #102 on: February 23, 2015, 01:11:28 PM »
Yeah, f*ck the sun! I f*cking hate it too.

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Re: That Tobias f--k went after Xak III and SO II as pressed CD-ROM releases!
« Reply #103 on: February 23, 2015, 01:57:00 PM »

Dude its sarcasm. Relax. This isn't the first time this bitch fest has raised its head.

Ain't nobody unrelaxed. :) I was just busting your chops.

And I understand, I've heard of this Tobias character before, but his antics before seemed more detrimental to collectards and, potentially, the IP holders.  The fact that he is screwing over the fans themselves this time around definitely shows that he's clearly not doing this "for the love of it."
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Re: That Tobias f--k went after Xak III and SO II as pressed CD-ROM releases!
« Reply #104 on: February 23, 2015, 02:01:23 PM »
Y'all stop fighting and praise the goddamned sun already.