Author Topic: That Tobias f--k went after Xak III and SO II as pressed CD-ROM releases!  (Read 37006 times)

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You'd think selling the things at 2000% profit (the "retail" price) would be lucrative enough, but hey, why not triple it, eh?

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Well 2 of the three current auctions have been removed...  Didn't see the third earlier... just reported it.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PC-Engine-Limited-XSC-Bundle-Startling-Odyssey-Xak-III-Cycho-Rider-/331509009231?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d2f7a0b4f


I had reported 2 of them as well.

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Good work reporting his auctions. Yeah, I wondered who it was and saw that the seller is located in Germany, so it's either him, a proxy buddy, or one hell of a coincidence...

Anyhow, I have 2 updates:

1) I'm Facebook friends with Tru/John and I finally reported the incident to him the other night. Linked him this thread as well. He emailed Tobias to deal with it - I asked what he said, and his answer was pretty much what I said, only with not as much "f--ks" and in hopes of finding an agreement. ;) Up to him.

2) I did finally reply back to him myself right before telling Tru.
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Quite honestly, I still haven't decided on how to resolve this with you, but while letting myself cool down and avoid the issue, there are points that need to made right now:

1) Wanna make sure you're made aware that I plan to eventually press Ys IV myself, and that you need to keep your hands off of it!!! I'm sure you've had your "eye on the prize" when it comes to Ys IV, no question about that... I've been made aware that you're pressing most of the NEC library and there was quite a bit of fear that you may have already snuck and done it, but yeah, keep your hands off of it!! I have invalidated the public patch with some enhancements and script edits, and I'll have to keep that private to prevent someone like you from accessing it - I guess I'll save the update until I can get needed votes/deals with everyone in the project to go forward.

2) Your $109 EUR price for the 3 pack is pretty ridiculous and that would need to be brought down to something sane with fair mark-up principles. Your shameless profiteering is something I don't wish to be associated with on any level, not to mention the big problem with you, your criminal baggage of the fraud you perpetrated against the public by forging a document purported to be by Hudson Soft to falsely convince the public you obtained the last real and new batch of Sapphire, CDs which you had in fact pressed yourself and thus were fakes all along... You caused a lot of financial damage to buyers and resellers alike who were tricked into believing that batch was real, you made out like a bandit and got away with it all... Hard to believe those Youtube channel personalities forgave you for all of that mess!

3) I notified Tru about SO II the other day, so that's out of the way. How he deals with you is entirely up to him. He said he already emailed you so you will have seen that by now.

That's all for now.

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When you do ever get the time to press these CDs I will definitely be purchasing them through you man.  I think it would be cool to see them done by the fansubbers who put the time and effort to let the masses enjoy. 

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1) Wanna make sure you're made aware that I plan to eventually press Ys IV myself, and that you need to keep your hands off of it!!! I'm sure you've had your "eye on the prize" when it comes to Ys IV, no question about that... I've been made aware that you're pressing most of the NEC library and there was quite a bit of fear that you may have already snuck and done it, but yeah, keep your hands off of it!! I have invalidated the public patch with some enhancements and script edits, and I'll have to keep that private to prevent someone like you from accessing it - I guess I'll save the update until I can get needed votes/deals with everyone in the project to go forward.


I hope, for your sake, you didn't actually send this to Tobias. He's clearly demonstrated, by trying to pass off a bootleg Sapphire as a legit game, that he has zero care for the community or ethical lines in reproductions. You can say hands off as much as you want, but I seriously doubt he'll listen. Given the past behavior, I'd say that it is pretty likely he'll ignore you. On top of that, you've told him you are planning on pressing Ys IV 'sometime in the future' and a better version. Which, I'm pretty sure, to some one like Tobias, means that he needs to press it sooner, rather than later, to maximize his profits, while you "take votes."

Even given the number of problems we've had, I'd rather support you than Tobias. (Not saying I'd actually buy Tobias's version, just that given the choice between two, I'd pick you.)  That said, I think you just put a timer bomb over your head to getting this pressing done. I'm fairly certain you inspired Tobias to speed up his next pressing.
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I hope, for your sake, you didn't actually send this to Tobias. He's clearly demonstrated, by trying to pass off a bootleg Sapphire as a legit game, that he has zero care for the community or ethical lines in reproductions. You can say hands off as much as you want, but I seriously doubt he'll listen. Given the past behavior, I'd say that it is pretty likely he'll ignore you. On top of that, you've told him you are planning on pressing Ys IV 'sometime in the future' and a better version. Which, I'm pretty sure, to some one like Tobias, means that he needs to press it sooner, rather than later, to maximize his profits, while you "take votes."

Even given the number of problems we've had, I'd rather support you than Tobias. (Not saying I'd actually buy Tobias's version, just that given the choice between two, I'd pick you.)  That said, I think you just put a timer bomb over your head to getting this pressing done. I'm fairly certain you inspired Tobias to speed up his next pressing.

Well, funny you should pop in here again for that... He already responded back to me, and well, no surprise, he already pressed Ys IV and given his batch orders, we're talking about 500 CDs or more, etc. It's too late, it's been revealed that the guy is gonna be doing a significant part of the NEC library, and yeah, Ys IV made his production list as many predicted. He probably already did Dracula X as well... He added that in light of the situation, he won't be selling them, they will be given out.
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Well, funny you should pop in here again for that... He already responded back to me, and well, no surprise, he already pressed Ys IV and given his batch orders, we're talking about 500 CDs or more, etc. It's too late, it's been revealed that the guy is gonna be doing a significant part of the NEC library, and yeah, Ys IV made his production list as many predicted. He probably already did Dracula X as well... He added that in light of the situation, he won't be selling them, they will be given out.

Interesting. I don't believe him. He doesn't seem like the type to pass up on profits.

Actually, TBH, I don't believe he's already pressed Ys IV. Seems like another lie to try and delay your pressing. Why would he not be selling it, if it were already pressed? Something just "off" about that.
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I believe him. From what I've gathered, he did a bunch of batch orders of many games on his list, and that's the easy part, send CD label artwork and a CD-R off to the pressing plant that he uses. So he's pressed a whole bunch of games in the NEC library including fan-translated games, and those are sitting in his stock, and he does the slow part which is manuals and maybe box art as he goes along, etc. You will be seeing many releases come out this year.

I also know this to likely be true because of other developments, but I was asked not to disclose them at this time (not by him!)... But yeah, suffice to say, I won't be bothering with my desire to press it... If he didn't have criminal baggage and chose not to sneak around, the newer font and spelling fixes could've been on these, but he is who he is and he used the old public patches currently available, just like he did with Xak III, so...

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You might be happy to hear (no sarcasm intended!)
that the free discs of Xak and SOII are extremely popular. We shipped
way over 600 pairs to users all over the world (with all costs on us).

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I... I don't get it. He did one of the most deplorable possible things you can do, as far as reproductions go, by trying to pass off a bootleg as the real deal. That, to me, means he had zero conscience from the get-go. He'll do whatever he wants, to maximize profit.

However, from the dealings with Nightwolve, he seems like a somewhat morally defunct, but trying to-do-right guy. I can't align the two in my head. They say a tiger can't change his stripes... but it sounds like Tobias has.
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Well, if BurntLasagna wasn't already gun shy enough, a release of his Dracula X work will certainly be the end of any further involvement he'd be likely to have in the community.
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Well, if BurntLasagna wasn't already gun shy enough, a release of his Dracula X work will certainly be the end of any further involvement he'd be likely to have in the community.

Good riddance to him.

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Well, funny you should pop in here again for that... He already responded back to me, and well, no surprise, he already pressed Ys IV and given his batch orders, we're talking about 500 CDs or more, etc. It's too late, it's been revealed that the guy is gonna be doing a significant part of the NEC library, and yeah, Ys IV made his production list as many predicted. He probably already did Dracula X as well... He added that in light of the situation, he won't be selling them, they will be given out.

How significant? Did he actually elaborate? I mean there is hundreds of games available, and most normal games could be purchased legitimately for used prices that would probably beat his prices for new repros.