Author Topic: That Tobias f--k went after Xak III and SO II as pressed CD-ROM releases!  (Read 36956 times)

NightWolve

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Come on Joe, regardless of your opinion on the matter is sending the disks back to Tobias and not "reviewing" anything so hard? That video must have been like a punch in the gut for Nightwolve...

Nah, it's cool Punch, Joe's awesome for one reason, and one reason alone:

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The zooming in screenshots he took captured "DeuceBag" and XSEED in a sentence, "First the DeuceBag shit with XSEED and now this!!!!!" :) (Thanks for that BTW, xelementx!) THAT really made my day and on a 20,000 hit video so far!!!!! Like I say, Joe is the coolest dude that I know, GameSack4ever!!

But on a serious note, Joe PM'ed me 2 weeks ago to give me a chance to provide my input on XakIII/Tobias, but my mind was just too focused on other things. I wanted to rewrite or summarize my key thoughts about it, see if I could contribute something useful to him, but I just procrastinated and I wouldn't have expected him to keep on waiting for me. The last PM he sent me provided a summary that sounded OK to me, so it's all good! Regardless, all is forgiven for getting that DeuceBag/XSEED comment shown in his video!! Heh-heh.
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Punch, it wasn't like a punch in the gut to Nightwolve and he was made very aware that we were making the video and what we were saying about it well before it was released. Please don't jump to conclusions.

Also Johnny (Happy Console Gamer) was informed about all of this several weeks ago by me and he was upset. He had already made his video and he said he was going to "cut that part out". I'm not sure what part he was referring to exactly.

I believe that he was one of the people who really drove home the point that these bootlegs were made by reputable fans who would never try to pass off bootlegs as the real deal. I think he actually said some like "people who try to sell bootlegs online as authentic copies are scum... which is why I love PCE Works because they would never do that and you can trust them".
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Joe addressed the issue in a solid fashion, so I can't fault him for that. I like how he stated the flaws of the packaging/presentation too for Xak and SO II also in the video.

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(2) OCD is NOT the basis for a valid CRITIQUE: I watched the whole video. I can't believe Carlson's major criticism of the cardboard packaging was that it didn't match the size of a jewel case, thus ruining his row of PCE games from being perfectly uniform.

I like how he prefers the 'traditional packaging' of Cychorider, showing his complete ignorance of the game and how it was originally distributed in a book!.  Stupid youtubers.  :lol:
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f*ck yeah the packaging of Cycho Rider was cool. Screw that weird ass Xak 3 and Startling Odyssey shit. I wish that Cycho Rider's instructions weren't just in Japanese though... not like it needs English instructions or anything. Anyway I gave SO2 and Xak 3 to Dave. He says he'll probably never play them.

NightWolve

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Hard to believe he went for SO II with that unhacked, native 16x16 System Card 3 font, and given that it was technically a Babelfish translation that Tru hacked around into something meaningful... Xak III is rough/dry/boring/literal, but I got human translators involved at least and minor post-editing on my part that I could tolerate to do... Doesn't matter much though, you make some pretty plastic and packaging, throw freebies around, the wallets still open up all the same, etc.

Screw that weird ass Xak 3 ...

Like how you got all the gruesome stuff showcased/highlighted in the video. ;) That was one of the things that really struck me about the game as well, I never encountered one with beheadings and other slicing'n'dicing on full display and very early on to boot! Heh.

Jumped point to Xak III:



... Great, Youtube is breaking all the previous existing embedded links...
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Black Tiger

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(2) OCD is NOT the basis for a valid CRITIQUE: I watched the whole video. I can't believe Carlson's major criticism of the cardboard packaging was that it didn't match the size of a jewel case, thus ruining his row of PCE games from being perfectly uniform.

I like how he prefers the 'traditional packaging' of Cychorider, showing his complete ignorance of the game and how it was originally distributed in a book!.  Stupid youtubers.  :lol:

Although that guy seems fairly clueless about PCE, it is fair to take it that he just meant the usual CD game packaging. Joe was actually the one who said that Cychorider was included on one of the versions of Anearth Fantasy Stories. If that video increased sales of repros of the commonly known Sweet Home, it will likely be harder finding a copy of AFS for a while as collectards enjoy the thrill of hunting down the correct 'revision' of the game.
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I thought Cycho Rider was only available for the Anearth Fantasy Stories Demo, unless I am mistaken because I know it isn't on the real retail ver. of it.  Unless I am mistaken again XD

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I thought Cycho Rider was only available for the Anearth Fantasy Stories Demo, unless I am mistaken because I know it isn't on the real retail ver. of it.  Unless I am mistaken again XD

It's included on the CD with this Seiya Monogatari / Anearth Fantasy Stories Taikenban book.
http://www.pcedaisakusen.net/2/28/628/1/Seiya-Monogatari-CD-Guidebook-jp.htm

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Just wanted to chime in since I was mentioned here and put out a video about the PCE Works XSC set.  Now that I am more aware/informed of the situation thanks to NightWolve and several viewers regarding use of the Xak III/SOII English fan translation patches, I would have approached the video I made much differently and would have made talk about the controversy behind the set and PCE Works a priority of the video.  That, or I would have just passed on making it completely.

I'm not a professional YouTuber by any means, and I've not received a single dime (or less) from doing what I do.  I put a lot of effort into my content so I can share my love of this thing we all have in common called gaming, and in my case, I like to let people know about great games (IMO) that remained Japan-only.  So when I am regarded as someone "uninformed educating the clueless," I don't take it lightly.

Two months ago when I began working on the video, I tried to do some research into PCE Works, but all I really had were other YouTube videos to go by and very little in the way of text or webpages mentioning them.  I wasn't a member of this forum until today, and as it's not a public one, I had no idea about just how deep "the rabbithole" went, you might say.  I'm not trying to blame him at all for my misunderstanding of repros/PCE Works, but I really respect Johnny Millennium/Happy Console Gamer, and when I first saw him talk about the Best of Japan set and how "great" the folks were behind them, I took that to heart and that's really what formed my initial impression of them.

Since I knew I was getting a PC Engine, something I've wanted for over two decades, I was excited to play all the great games I missed out on over the years, and thought it was worth a shot reaching out to a company that I thought was really a positive force in the PC Engine gaming scene.  But reading this thread and receiving feedback from others through comments, I understand that's not the case.  So yes, I was ignorant, but I feel my intentions were good, misguided as they may have been.  And my god, I had no idea about Xseed!

Anyway, my apologies for the long post, I just wanted to address this issue here where it felt most appropriate.  For what it's worth, I updated my video description a couple of days ago to address the situation of the English patches (I may update it again to make it more detailed), added an annotation, and have provided links to places where they can be downloaded without monetary commitment.  And my apologies if it seemed I was purposely misleading anyone with my video.  That being said, I don't think I will or really can receive/cover another set from PCE Works in the future.  I'll stick to what I know best, legit, Japan-only releases.  I've gone on long enough, so to end this post, I want to say thanks to NightWolve for his excellent work translating an excellent game, and I look forward to becoming more engaged in the world of PC Engine gaming.  Take care.
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Otaking

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For what it's worth I've watched a couple of your videos and I enjoyed them. At some point I'll go through your back catalogue of videos and watch more.
Anything good that's related to Japanese import gaming gets a thumbs up from me.
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Take care.


*blushes*

You are sweet. I will. Thanks.




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For what it's worth I've watched a couple of your videos and I enjoyed them. At some point I'll go through your back catalogue of videos and watch more.
Anything good that's related to Japanese import gaming gets a thumbs up from me.
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Thank you for the kind words, I appreciate it.

Take care.

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You are sweet. I will. Thanks.


Ha! XD
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NightWolve

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Hey Jimmy, thanks for stopping by and for the updates to your video! I linked Jimmy to that Tobias/Sapphire thread a week ago or so and told him he'd have to register as he wanted to see where Tobias was using that fake/forged Hudson document to fool people into believing his Sapphire bootlegs were legit. That thread's kinda long, dunno if it helped beyond reasonable doubt, but yeah.


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Another review of the PC-E Memories Turbo Duo Edition has been posted and popped up in my feed. I watched most of it, but it's more of the same.