That Tobias f--k went after Xak III and SO II as pressed CD-ROM releases!

[esteban]

Yup, the only way to *possibly* influence the YouTube folks is if someone like Joe used his status/respect/popularity to "push" the issue a little harder.

I AM NOT SAYING JOE MUST DO THIS.

All I am saying is that it would require someone like Joe to make a *concerted* effort...and I still think that a lot of folks, fully hearing the ethical issues, would still shrug it off.

So, even if Joe were to take up the cause, there is no guarantee that it would produce the desired effect.

At this point, the most ethical thing to do is sneak into Tobias's home and steal his chocolate. And his undershirts.

[Black Tiger]

So far Game Sack is the only channel I've heard of which actually acknowledged Tobias' history. But that's not going to discourage the kinds of collectards who are piecing together sets of CIB repros.

[ProfessorProfessorson]

SamIAm, the best policy at this point is scorched earth. Just stop doing them. You and a few others can do a joint youtube video explaining why you will no longer be putting out translations, and see if Joe would be willing to host it so it gets more exposure.

It sucks, but not much at this point is going to slow down his sales. It's up to companies to protect their own IP, and if they cant be bothered to do that after being informed of whats going on, then what can you do? I don't think Tobias is sitting back making millions here, but maybe thousands, making enough that he is going to keep doing this, and nothing is going to be "hands off" to him. The current status of many older Japanese game companies is that they are in a weakened position.

What is worse is that many of them don't have divisions with legal departments located in Europe anyway, so Tobias is in a fairly good position to just keep doing what he is doing. He clearly feels entitled to do what he does, and I think some small part of him thinks, or wants to believe he is doing it for the scene, to justify what he is doing.

[deubeul]

Did you know that Xanadu I would be massively easier to hack if the TED2 works as a RAM expansion?

Speaking of that, wouldn't it be possible to make translations working on real hardware but only with the Stupid Card 4.0?

>> I don't think it would be that easy for Tobias to retro-engineer it.
>> Sales of the Stupid cards could be controlled by and for community members.
>> every body owning the stupid card could burn CDRs, so no fancy pressed CDs for collectards.

[Arkhan]

You could always leave a paper trail of how worthless Tobias is WITHIN the games, so people will slowly become aware.

We also have some other interesting ideas on how to stop Dickface McGee from doing this.

[ProfessorProfessorson]

Would be funny, but Tobias would probably think it is neat 4th wall shit and leave it in, because he thinks he is Victor Ireland's second coming.

[Arkhan]

I mean, does Tobias really even have the necessary brain-talents to figure out how to stop something as simple as a boot screen that says IF YOU GOT THIS FROM TOBIAS/PCEWORKS, YOU GOT f*ckED, THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN FREE.

or something to that effect.

[Necromancer]

Also why do you censor the words bitch and shit, but make no attempt to censor the word f*cking.  This makes you look like you fell off the AOL train and landed at ForumTown.

I also thought that was silly.  Why even censor 'em at all?  Jesus is not so easily fooled.

The rest of his bullshit is just that: bullshit.  Prof. wanted to trade something he owned and didn't try to claim they're teh rarez, worth elebentytwentyhundreds.  WHO GIVES A f*ck?

But by the looks of it, we can either watch our stuff get bootlegged, which sucks, or we can force things to work in emulators only, which also sucks. Or we can just not bother.

Or you can quit worrying so much about the select few that buy Tobias's shit.  The majority of people are supportive of and thankful for the translation work, so why not focus on the positive?  To be honest, you sound like the DRM software nazis that continually slap their honest paying customers in the face because of the actions of a select few.

I mean, does Tobias really even have the necessary brain-talents to figure out how to stop something as simple as a boot screen that says IF YOU GOT THIS FROM TOBIAS/PCEWORKS, YOU GOT f*ckED, THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN FREE.

or something to that effect.

Somebody figured out how to remove those shewties and make them stand alone games for him, so probably.

[BigusSchmuck]

You could always leave a paper trail of how worthless Tobias is WITHIN the games, so people will slowly become aware.

We also have some other interesting ideas on how to stop Dickface McGee from doing this.

Even better, create a mini game where you cut his freaking head of and make it a requirement in order to finish said game. :-) Or just place a disclaimer if you paid $$$ for this translation you got ripped off. Make it blinking red text and possibly insert it during the loading times. People will get the idea.

[ProfessorProfessorson]

I mean, does Tobias really even have the necessary brain-talents to figure out how to stop something as simple as a boot screen that says IF YOU GOT THIS FROM TOBIAS/PCEWORKS, YOU GOT f*ckED, THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN FREE.

or something to that effect.

I dont think he does, but he may try to pay someone to do it. At this point he clearly has hired help of some sort to do his releases, so I don't think he would be opposed to hiring someone to remove those kind of disclaimers.

[BigusSchmuck]

I mean, does Tobias really even have the necessary brain-talents to figure out how to stop something as simple as a boot screen that says IF YOU GOT THIS FROM TOBIAS/PCEWORKS, YOU GOT f*ckED, THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN FREE.

or something to that effect.

I dont think he does, but he may try to pay someone to do it. At this point he clearly has hired help of some sort to do his releases, so I don't think he would be opposed to hiring someone to remove those kind of disclaimers.

Couldn't you corrupt the rom header so it would work only on emulators?

[ProfessorProfessorson]

Or you can quit worrying so much about the select few that buy Tobias's shit.  The majority of people are supportive of and thankful for the translation work, so why not focus on the positive? 

Pretty much spot on. I'm sure Tobias is making good money, but I mean, the majority of it is clearly not coming from this forum, and its not like hundreds of thousands. Odds are good too he is making more money off the non-rpg content. His exact words to me when I asked about his future releases were:

Me: "Was kind of curious, since it looks like the past two releases you have done have been focused on the role playing stuff."

Tobias: "I'm with you on that and we'll be glad ourselves once we re-focus on
the action and shooting titles.

Best
Tobias"

I mean, you can worry about him making a few bucks off the translations you do and take up a scorched earth policy to stop him, or you can just move on as planned and rest assured the community here will still enjoy the work you did, and appreciate every bit of it.

[Arkhan]

I think the next PCE release from Aetherbyte will have a big "f*ck PCEWORKS" splash screen, of some variety.

"WINNERS DONT USE PCEWORKS", would be perfect.

We should make that a thing and vow to use it in all of our things ever from here on out, lol

[TheOldMan]

Find me that old arcade screen about copyrights. (You know the one, with the giant eagle in the middle). I'll load it from the ipl on our next project

[Arkhan]

Find me that old arcade screen about copyrights. (You know the one, with the giant eagle in the middle). I'll load it from the ipl on our next project

That's the one I am talking about basically.