That Tobias f--k went after Xak III and SO II as pressed CD-ROM releases!

[ClodBuster]

Judging by how many you tubers and bloggers do play and advertise these games, but are completely oblivious to their shady roots, perhaps they would second guess promoting the product, of at least relay the info to their audience.

I do think the media needs to play a larger role in this knowledge transmission. People are uninformed, and I fear our little voices come across as a foil hat rant.

I think you made a good point.

[TheOldMan]

Maybe I'm just too cynical on this point, but I see two dumb flaws with this.  First, the unknowing public quite likely won't find out about the disclaimer until after they have already bought and played the game.

At which point, someone will post a video on you-tube, and everyone else will know. We hope.

[deubeul]

I do think the media needs to play a larger role in this knowledge transmission. People are uninformed, and I fear our little voices come across as a foil hat rant.

Yes, but who are the media today? Professional journalists?

Or just gamers/collectards whom only deontology is to please and heighten their followers giving them what they want? And get free games in the process?

[NightWolve]

I do think the media needs to play a larger role in this knowledge transmission. People are uninformed, and I fear our little voices come across as a foil hat rant.

Yes, but who are the media today? Professional journalists?

Or just gamers/collectards whom only deontology is to please and heighten their followers giving them what they want? And get free games in the process?

THEY BEEN BOUGHT IN FULL WITH PROMOTIONAL FREEBIES FROM BOOTLEGGERS!!!!! ZOMG GAMERGATE CORRUPTION!!!!!!

[Punch]

It's about ethics in obey game translations

[ProfessorProfessorson]

Just two tidbits to add to this thread, for the sake of keeping it alive and updated with content.

One is this ironic quote from Tobias:

I'm not really a gamer anymore, I've been at that for 30 years now and my backlog is growing and growing. I haven't even finished (most of) the NES and PC Engine games yet which I bought back then.

Source:
http://www.tested.com/tech/gaming/456719-best-crt-retro-games/

And also this, as I am not sure if it has been posted elsewhere (the letter from Hudson that Tobias faked):



Not bumping to stir up more drama or anything, but mainly just an effort to keep things chronicled concerning all things Tobias.

[Mathius]

Hmm the way that letter is worded it kinda seems legit. But, yeah....

[NightWolve]

Not bumping to stir up more drama or anything, but mainly just an effort to keep things chronicled concerning all things Tobias.

No, that's fine, I wanted this a while back actually since the links Tobias had posted with his account here had all but expired and some people wanted specific evidence of "Sapphire-Gate" - this was a piece of it and was previously unavailable until now.

Did you get this with the Wayback Internet archive perhaps?

Looking at it, I think I see what he did... Assuming he didn't fake it, he just falsely used it as cover to pretend the Sapphire CDs that he himself had just paid to press fell under Hudson's bad batches... So by contacting them, and somehow causing them to reveal this, he figured he could now use it as cover and tell people that the imperfections of his bootlegs were apart of Hudson's bad batches that he got a hold of that didn't get recalled, something like that. Bottomline, he used it to provide him cover for his fakes which he himself paid a CD plant to press.

So now, I'm not sure we can call that document a forgery. Could be legit. But we know for sure how he falsely manipulated/misled the public with it.

[ProfessorProfessorson]

Nah its def a photoshop. Something I did not look at real close before, mainly because years back I had much lower res monitors, but the text and logos and stuff pop off the paper, as in they are not on it. None of the folds and creases effect them or their geometry or detail in any sort of way. Oddly enough I still had it from when I inquired about it to Hudson years back. A copy was in my Comcast sent mail from Oct. 2005. I don't have their reply back anymore though, nor the reply I got back from Care4Data..

I will speculate though that it is possible Tobias did try what you said, but that Hudson did not send him the response he needed, so he had to forge something.

[BigusSchmuck]

Nah its def a photoshop. Something I did not look at real close before, mainly because years back I had much lower res monitors, but the text and logos and stuff pop off the paper, as in they are not on it. None of the folds and creases effect them or their geometry or detail in any sort of way. Oddly enough I still had it from when I inquired about it to Hudson years back. A copy was in my Comcast sent mail from Oct. 2005. I don't have their reply back anymore though, nor the reply I got back from Care4Data..

I will speculate though that it is possible Tobias did try what you said, but that Hudson did not send him the response he needed, so he had to forge something.

I for one can't tell if it's fake or real. Then again, spotting forgeries isn't my specialty.

[ProfessorProfessorson]

I for one can't tell if it's fake or real. Then again, spotting forgeries isn't my specialty.

You dont have to be, all you need to do is realize that none of the text or logos or anything bends in any sort of way, even though the paper has lots of bends and creases, and there is no crease marks going through any text that overlaps one of the crease marks.


EDIT: I should mention this too. He blurs out the supposed Hudson contacts name/info, as well as the number to the head office. I get why he did his own, but there would have been no reason to do this, unless he was concerned that someone would have checked up and confirmed this was an actual letter. In this case the name probably would have been confirmed as fake if someone who actually spoke Japanese called and made in inquire, so the lie would not have lasted so long. Blurring out the fake name bought him time.

[NightWolve]

I for one can't tell if it's fake or real. Then again, spotting forgeries isn't my specialty.

You dont have to be, all you need to do is realize that none of the text or logos or anything bends in any sort of way, even though the paper has lots of bends and creases, and there is no crease marks going through any text.

Aaaah, you're right, I see it now!! I had to download the image so I could zoom in and look at it more closely/carefully. He tried to use a folded paper for authenticity, but things like that Hudson Bee logo on the upper left were added over where clearly the paper is crinkled a bit, yet the image is unaffacted which means it was added after this paper was scanned...

Wow, what a douchebag... So I think the charge of forgery stands in furtherance of his con job back then...

[Mathius]

Wow...very incriminating.

[BigusSchmuck]

I for one can't tell if it's fake or real. Then again, spotting forgeries isn't my specialty.

You dont have to be, all you need to do is realize that none of the text or logos or anything bends in any sort of way, even though the paper has lots of bends and creases, and there is no crease marks going through any text that overlaps one of the crease marks.


EDIT: I should mention this too. He blurs out the supposed Hudson contacts name/info, as well as the number to the head office. I get why he did his own, but there would have been no reason to do this, unless he was concerned that someone would have checked up and confirmed this was an actual letter. In this case the name probably would have been confirmed as fake if someone who actually spoke Japanese called and made in inquire, so the lie would not have lasted so long. Blurring out the fake name bought him time.

I could have my brother call that office up if it still existed. He lives over there in Japan and speaks almost flawless Japanese... Yeah I see what you mean now, had to download it myself to see these imperfections..

[ProfessorProfessorson]

It wouldn't exist anymore. Hudson was bought out and dismantled by Konami. Moot anyway, obvious fake is obviously fake.