Author Topic: Question for UK turbo fans (Read 695 times)

guyjin · « **on:** July 18, 2006, 01:13:07 PM »

Have you ever seen or heard of anyone in the UK being offended by Bonk's Adventure?

(I've read that 'bonk' in the uk is slightly vulgar slang for coitus.

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[p.s. :oops: I must have bonked my head - I put this in the wrong forum. Please put this in turbo general discussion, and accept my apologies :oops: ]

sunteam_paul · « **Reply #1 on:** July 19, 2006, 10:44:42 AM »

Not offended, but the name just sounds rubbish to me.

Bonk isn't really vulgar, it's one of the more innocent terms used to describe shagging

Was it released on the Commodore Amiga in the US? Over here, the Amiga version was called 'BC Kid'. I don't know if that's because of the sound of 'bonk', but I kinda prefer BC Kid as a good alternative anyway.

guyjin · « **Reply #2 on:** July 19, 2006, 11:03:19 AM »

According to Gamefaqs, there was a game called BC kid for amiga in the US. But it doesn't mention a UK version, and there are no screenshots, so it may be a different game.

td741 · « **Reply #3 on:** July 20, 2006, 03:30:58 AM »

BC Kid for Amiga was an Amiga Bonk port.

I don't remember if it was exactly the same game as bonk's adventure or bonk's Revenge or some remix.

It was ported by Factor 5 (Turrican, Rogue Squadron, etc) as is available to download from their site: http://www.factor5.com/downloads.shtml (note: It's available for download for non-commercial purposes along with their Amiga RType port and Katakis.)

There is a screenshot on that page.

esteban · « **Reply #4 on:** July 20, 2006, 05:15:24 AM »

Excellent link td -- I think you've listed it in the past but I never bothered to check it out because I thought it was a general listing... I didn't realize Factor5 themselves was taking the time to acknowlege their back catalogue.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the only commercial Amiga release was "BC Kid". I don't think there was a version of this game released under any other title, nor was it released in the U.S. (North America).

td741 · « **Reply #5 on:** July 20, 2006, 05:55:37 AM »

Quote from: "stevek666"

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the only commercial Amiga release was "BC Kid". I don't think there was a version of this game released under any other title, nor was it released in the U.S. (North America).

Yes, the Amiga version was only known as "BC Kid"... I remember a review of CU Amiga at the time of release mentioning that "PC Genjin" and "Bonk" names in Japan and US. After some digging around, an article reminded me of the Bomberman port for the Amiga called "Dynablasters".

BC Kid review with more screenshots (German followed by English CU Amiga): http://amigareviews.classicgaming.gamespy.com/bckid.htm

Dynablaster review (German w/one screenshot): http://amigareviews.classicgaming.gamespy.com/dynablas.htm (A quick google appears that there was an MS Dos version of Dynablaster released as well).

With that said, it's difficult to talk about Amiga US releases versus other regions. Many stores here (in Canada) at least sold the same games. Occasionally you would need to shift your Amiga into PAL mode, but generally titles sold here worked fine in NTSC or PAL.

esteban · « **Reply #6 on:** July 20, 2006, 06:57:08 AM »

Quote from: "td741"

With that said, it's difficult to talk about Amiga US releases versus other regions. Many stores here (in Canada) at least sold the same games. Occasionally you would need to shift your Amiga into PAL mode, but generally titles sold here worked fine in NTSC or PAL.

Crap, here I am generalizing for all of North America based on my experiences in the U.S. !!!!

Seriously, I even make an effort to use "North America", but usually I'm still thinking "USA"

The key thing, as far as I am concerned, would be the games intended market, the packaging and the distribution channels. I agree that it is tough to sort all of this out.

If the package was in French and English, for example, it would certainly seem like it was intended for Canada (and/or North America). If the manual referenced support telephone lines for folks based Canada (and/or U.S.), then the answer would be clear-cut

. But I doubt we'll be lucky enough to find an important clue like that.

td741 · « **Reply #7 on:** July 20, 2006, 07:15:57 AM »

Oh... Don't worry about "US Releases"... I generally substitute US Releases for North American.

I think we only started to see specific "Canadian Releases" with french bundled instructions because of some ruling in Quebec saying that games should have French instructions in order to be sold in Quebec. (Or something like that.)

Mind you, my Bonk 3 did come with French instructions.

Outside of software written and created in North America, I don't think I've ever seen any mention of North American companies (even for Waranty and support information) on Amiga software, save for really large software publishers. Granted, it might just be that the stores here imported software?

I, unfortuantely, don't have any of my original software boxes anymore. I might have some instructions lying around but I did clean most of them out... The bulk of the newer software comes from Europe and do not have official support elsewhere and therefore wouldn't be much help. I do seem to remember seeing BC Kid for sale here at one point.

esteban · « **Reply #8 on:** July 20, 2006, 08:31:57 AM »

Quote from: "td741"

Oh... Don't worry about "US Releases"... I generally substitute US Releases for North American. I think we only started to see specific "Canadian Releases" with french bundled instructions because of some ruling in Quebec saying that games should have French instructions in order to be sold in Quebec. (Or something like that.)

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I do seem to remember seeing BC Kid for sale here at one point.

Yeah, I am just happy to learn that the game was available in Canada. It helps me get a better idea of the Amiga scene. In the U.S. there were very few stores that carried Amiga games in stock (some would "special order" items for you, but the selection of titles sucked and was out-of-date). The places that did carry Amiga software were always specialty shops that were owned by someone who loved Amiga (OK, maybe not "always", but the only two places I knew of were owned / managed by Amiga freaks).

Anyway, moving on... Kaminari mentioned that a similar policy existed in France: even imported games (i.e. PC Engine) were required to have French-language instructions, even if they were merely supplemental. I have one of these inserts (for L-Dis, I'll post a scan soon since I'm buying a new scanner tomorrow)... it is pretty low-budget (looks like it was typed on an electric typewriter, then photocopied). But it's neat because it reveals a part of the international PCE scene that I wasn't aware of.

Personally, I think this policy rocks. Sure, it's a burden on the importers (or publishers), but I think it would have really helped the U.S. import market, because folks would have been much more willing to plunk down $50-70 if they knew they would get some basic instructions. Well, I would have, at least.

Tangent:
I have always been annoyed when websites use the U.S. flag to represent North America. I wish there was a "North American" flag. Unfortunately, there really isn't a better way to visually represent N. America than posting three flags (does Quebec get an special one? Then I'd need four flags!).

But that's no good because it's messy! You defeat the purpose of having an icon being a "mental shortcut" if you use more than one of them, I think.
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td741 · « **Reply #9 on:** July 20, 2006, 08:54:26 AM »

Quote from: "stevek666"

Yeah, I am just happy to learn that the game was available in Canada. It helps me get a better idea of the Amiga scene. In the U.S. there were very few stores that carried Amiga games in stock (some would "special order" items for you, but the selection of titles sucked and was out-of-date). The places that did carry Amiga software were always specialty shops that were owned by someone who loved Amiga (OK, maybe not "always", but the only two places I knew of were owned / managed by Amiga freaks).

Well... At one point we had Amiga software in K-Mart's, Zellers, Sears, CompuCenter and many specialized computer stores that sold Amiga's, Atari ST's, C= 64's. By the time that Amiga OS 2.04 and the CDTV rolled around Amiga software was pretty much in computer stores. (Compu-Center still carried them for a few more years.)

Ottawa, however, did have a few computer stores around that still supported Amiga so we were lucky I guess.

I was able to buy CD32 software, etc.

<snip! providing translated instructions>
Yes, it would be nice to have had some intructions for imports, then again how many people actually read the instructions?

The most useful parts would be to show people what "save" and "load" looked like.

Quote from: "stevek666"

I have always been annoyed when websites use the U.S. flag to represent North America. I wish there was a "North American" flag. Unfortunately, there really isn't a better way to visually represent N. America than posting three flags (does Quebec get an special one? Then I'd need four flags!).

But that's no good because it's messy! You defeat the purpose of having an icon being a "mental shortcut" if you use more than one of them, I think.
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I don't think that Quebec requires its own flag in order to represent a North American release, mind you that depends on who you talk to.

I've done the followign for a website I had setup a while back (it's for a website for a Canadian division of a worldwide hobby group.)... This was for selecting languages
English:

and
French:

The flags representing "French" language are Quebec, Franco-Ontarian, Acadian representing the largest groups of french speaking population in Canada. ;P

With that said, that would be one way to do it, but then again, I honestly don't think many people outside of the US are miffed about a US flag being used to represent a North American release.

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esteban · « **Reply #10 on:** July 20, 2006, 02:12:56 PM »

No less than three French dialects in Canada? Insanity!

You actually bought CD32 software? Insanity!

Here's one of my favorite CD32 pages. Tons of great stuff there!

My friend had the Amiga, not I, and I felt lucky just to play it. I helped him get new games, though, so it was *almost* as if it were mine.

Except when it was time for dinner, that is

td741 · « **Reply #11 on:** July 21, 2006, 02:57:39 AM »

Quote from: "stevek666"

No less than three French dialects in Canada? Insanity!

I'm not sure if you'd call them dialects. Granted the groups do usually have their own flavour but there is sort of a "standard french" that everyone sticks to, especially when you reach a certain level of education. (That said, "standard french" in Canada does sound different then that of France.

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Quote from: "stevek666"

You actually bought CD32 software? Insanity!

I used to have a webpage about running various Amiga software on an Amiga + CD.
Here it is thanks to the Internet Way Back machine.

However, I did find a CD32 years ago at a thrift store (I used to go to pick up some old Vic-20 stuff that kept appearing there) and found one (complete) for 30$CDN! It even included some software. I did, however, trade all of my CD32 stuff for a PSP... I normally regret such decisions, but I do have some other Amigas and the CD32 was pretty much gathering dust. There are also lots of harddrive installers that allow you to install CD32 games to CD and become playable.

While we're at it, an old page of Turbo mini-reviews (circa 1998)
I tried to revive this but it's really outdated, now incomplete and I really don't have time.

I did post it up online a few years ago too but couldn't do it justice. I'm toying around with a few things with video though. I'm thinking of grabbing video from Altered Beast CD once my 1.0 card comes in. Then I would like to do "comparaison" videos between various versions of games (i.e. Art of Fighting Arcade Card vs Neo Geo, etc.)

Quote from: "stevek666"

Here's one of my favorite CD32 pages. Tons of great stuff there!

My friend had the Amiga, not I, and I felt lucky just to play it. I helped him get new games, though, so it was *almost* as if it were mine.

Except when it was time for dinner, that is

Hehe... I got my first Amiga (an A1000) off of a friend. He wanted to sell it for enough money to get a TurboGrafx-16. At the time I used to work for a store called "Consumer's Distributing". It was a catalogue shopping store, you had a very small store front attached to a warehouse. People would come in, fill in an order form, we'd go out back and grab it from the warehouse and bring it to front. People could then look at it, etc.

Anyway, at the time the TurboGrafx-16 was being discontinued from the store, so I bought one and traded it. I'm ashamed to say that I wasn't very much impressed with the TG16 at the time. I only wised up with the TurboDuo release. I saw a box at a computer/video game store, I had a tax refund burning a hole in my pocket and I already had friends with (they bought them on release) SegaCD's. I tested out the system they had on display (Gate of Thunder with the volume turned down) and I bought the system then and there (boy was I surprised when I heard Gates of Thunder's soundtrack and played Ys!).

[I did play Ys on my Sega Master System.]

esteban · « **Reply #12 on:** July 23, 2006, 04:07:31 PM »

Good read, td! Lots of neat stuff in your last post

It actually was fun to look through all the Turbo mini-reviews... though I haven't finished reading all of them.

By the way, the I dig the song "War..." featured in the video for CD32 Cannon Fodder ... and even though the video itself is corny, it has some nice moments as well

UPDATE:

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Valis II (US CD)

Style: Action

Valis II is unfortunatly a very dated game. The game play is dated, the graphics are dated, the sound is dated. The cinematic sequences are okay at best. I'd only get this game to complete your Valis collection.
(5/10)

Nooooooooooooooooo! Blasphemy, blasphemy! The Valis II soundtrack is one of the BEST EVER! I *wish* there were more soundtracks like this.

I just had to get that out of my system

Now, I'm serious about Valis II, but not in a "let's rumble" manner. Peace, love and harmony can resume.

PC Gaijin · « **Reply #13 on:** July 23, 2006, 07:15:56 PM »

I think I've mentioned this before -- the same place I used to rent Turbo games from (and apparently a store that rented Turbo games was rare indeed) also "rented" out Amiga software along with IBM PC stuff. "Floppy Joe's" how I miss thee.

td741 · « **Reply #14 on:** July 24, 2006, 03:20:48 AM »

Quote from: "stevek666"

Good read, td! Lots of neat stuff in your last post

It actually was fun to look through all the Turbo mini-reviews... though I haven't finished reading all of them.

Yeah, don't read too much in the reviews. I can honestly say that I wrote them very quickly and a large percentage was based on a few minutes of play.

Quote from: "stevek666"

By the way, the I dig the song "War..." featured in the video for CD32 Cannon Fodder ... and even though the video itself is corny, it has some nice moments as well

The song was originally played on the original (2 floppy disk) version.

Quote from: "stevek666"

UPDATE:
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Valis II (US CD)

Style: Action

Valis II is unfortunatly a very dated game. The game play is dated, the graphics are dated, the sound is dated. The cinematic sequences are okay at best. I'd only get this game to complete your Valis collection.
(5/10)

Nooooooooooooooooo! Blasphemy, blasphemy! The Valis II soundtrack is one of the BEST EVER! I *wish* there were more soundtracks like this.

I just had to get that out of my system

Now, I'm serious about Valis II, but not in a "let's rumble" manner. Peace, love and harmony can resume.

I don't think I ended playing Valis II that much to be honest. I think I was initially disappointed when I purchased the game. I was coming out of the hype from Gates of Thunder, Y's and the little SCD games that I could find. Very few stores had TG games and I had to hunt up and down the city to find them and I would usually come in and buy games on release day. I think I picked up Valis II in anticipation to Valis III's release.

If I had all the time in the world, I would probably play all of the games from start to finish and chronolog all of my thoughts so I could do more accurate reviews...