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Re: Retro VGS Game Console
« Reply #585 on: December 17, 2015, 12:29:25 PM »
If they pick a certain set of specs and forget about trying to emulate existing hardware, this makes more sense.

I still don't see the point, though, not when you could accomplish the same goals on a PSTV, PC, etc.
Or a raspberry pi. This is way past a parody of itself.
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Re: Retro VGS Game Console
« Reply #586 on: December 17, 2015, 12:29:50 PM »
Oh, man it's back...  this time taking a big sweaty dump on my very first game console that I ever owned!  I don't know how much clout the Coleco name even has anymore.  But yeah, as others have already pointed out, it's a Jaguar console shell, with a Nintendo Wii Pro controller, and now with Coleco stamped on the front...  Makes less sense than the Coleco Flashback they've already released! (Which despite still having my actual Coleco, I considered, but my sister got me an Atari Flashback 4 a couple years ago and it was easy to see the problems with these despite coming with extras like cool numpad overlays.)

Guess we'll see where they are going with this, probably having the name brand also means they have some financial backing from the Coleco license holders.

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« Reply #587 on: December 17, 2015, 12:41:08 PM »
This is just too funny.

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« Reply #588 on: December 17, 2015, 12:52:44 PM »
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  Makes less sense than the Coleco Flashback they've already released! (Which despite still having my actual Coleco, I considered,

Don't bother with the coleco flashback, unless you get it really cheap (ie, < $20).
It feels like an emulator, the controllers are the wrong size (and you can't use real coleco controllers), and there are only 2-3 decent games on it.

Yeah, I'm a geek. I have the flashbacks sitting by their respective machines. Haven't played any of them in months. (Though comix zone on the sega one was good.)

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Re: Retro VGS Game Console
« Reply #589 on: December 17, 2015, 01:01:52 PM »
Don't bother with the coleco flashback, unless you get it really cheap (ie, < $20).
It feels like an emulator, the controllers are the wrong size (and you can't use real coleco controllers), and there are only 2-3 decent games on it.

Yeah, I'm a geek. I have the flashbacks sitting by their respective machines. Haven't played any of them in months. (Though comix zone on the sega one was good.)

Yeah, in general I know they are just kind of a letdown.  I've owned a Coleco but I've never even played Intellivision, and I always wanted to... know anything about that one?  Same deal?  Both of these systems sucks to emulate due to many games reliance on the number pad, especially in a tv/gamepad situation.  I guess if you were sitting in front of your PC with a keyboard you have either the number keys or the numpad to choose from.

Oh, and the Colecovision controllers have always been kinda bad, I remember even as a kid how stiff they were.  Makes me wonder when I get it back out again if I can open up my controllers and do some mod to improve them, y'know, lube them puppies up.  Or, I could just plug in a genny controller after I start up a game!

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Re: Retro VGS Game Console
« Reply #590 on: December 17, 2015, 01:09:38 PM »
Oh, man it's back...  this time taking a big sweaty dump on my very first game console that I ever owned!  I don't know how much clout the Coleco name even has anymore.  But yeah, as others have already pointed out, it's a Jaguar console shell, with a Nintendo Wii Pro controller, and now with Coleco stamped on the front...  Makes less sense than the Coleco Flashback they've already released! (Which despite still having my actual Coleco, I considered, but my sister got me an Atari Flashback 4 a couple years ago and it was easy to see the problems with these despite coming with extras like cool numpad overlays.)

Guess we'll see where they are going with this, probably having the name brand also means they have some financial backing from the Coleco license holders.

I seriously doubt this comes with any kind of cash infusion. They probably have a percentage deal to pay Coleco if this increasingly f*cked up console ever gets made and that's probably it.

There are a bunch of brands that only exist as a name. They should put all of them on this thing. Nakamichi, Hummer, whatever they can get. Make it look like a NASCAR.

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« Reply #591 on: December 17, 2015, 01:34:08 PM »
Coleco is just a name like Atari. There is no heritage when you really think about it.
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« Reply #592 on: December 17, 2015, 03:27:14 PM »
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I've owned a Coleco but I've never even played Intellivision, and I always wanted to... know anything about that one?

Got the intellivison one for my nephew. I never had an intellivision, but his comment was it was "meh". Not as laggy as the coleco one, and actually had a lot of the 'real' intellivision games. Iirc, he was a bit disappointed the talking games he liked weren't on there. Not sure if it was just favorite games missing, or if the speech module didn't work.

Fwiw: I think the intellivision one was $30 after xmas, so wait and look for it then :)

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« Reply #593 on: December 17, 2015, 03:46:18 PM »
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I've owned a Coleco but I've never even played Intellivision, and I always wanted to... know anything about that one?

Got the intellivison one for my nephew. I never had an intellivision, but his comment was it was "meh". Not as laggy as the coleco one, and actually had a lot of the 'real' intellivision games. Iirc, he was a bit disappointed the talking games he liked weren't on there. Not sure if it was just favorite games missing, or if the speech module didn't work.

Fwiw: I think the intellivision one was $30 after xmas, so wait and look for it then :)


From what I remember reading the Int Flashback had the voice module games. I was kind of interested in getting the Coleco Flashback but not anymore. I'd still like to find a real one.
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Re: Retro VGS Game Console
« Reply #594 on: December 17, 2015, 04:06:57 PM »
Got the intellivison one for my nephew. I never had an intellivision, but his comment was it was "meh". Not as laggy as the coleco one, and actually had a lot of the 'real' intellivision games. Iirc, he was a bit disappointed the talking games he liked weren't on there. Not sure if it was just favorite games missing, or if the speech module didn't work.

Fwiw: I think the intellivision one was $30 after xmas, so wait and look for it then :)

Thanks for the heads up!  I was most interested in Diner (psuedo Burgertime sequel, not included) and the D&D games which are included but renamed.  I would pick it up for cheap probably ($20 or less ideally) if I see it, but no hurry.  I love some of this convenience store junk though, we were looking around Walgreens at the stuff they put out for Xmas.  I pointed out this terrible looking plug n' play TV console about the size of a keychain to my girlfriend, it was $15 and full of generic looking games.  Mentioned in passing I would have a good time just probably hating on the included games with my buddies one night, kinda like sitting around and watching a bad movie, y'know?  Total waste of money but I bet I see that pos in my stocking this year.

From what I remember reading the Int Flashback had the voice module games. I was kind of interested in getting the Coleco Flashback but not anymore. I'd still like to find a real one.

I really need to dig mine out and clean it up.  I'd love to get Pepper 2, Frenzy, and some other decent games I never had.  Forget what I do have, it's not much... Donkey Kong (of course), Venture, uh... I had mostly Atari 2600 games for the expansion module I had (which is now lost or stolen, I don't know which.)  I had a great fondness for my Coleco despite the loathsome controllers.  Oh!  Cabbage Patch Kids Adventures in the Park.  One of my first Konami games.  It sounds embarrassing but it's actually a solid Pitfall clone.
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Re: Retro VGS Game Console
« Reply #595 on: December 17, 2015, 05:19:08 PM »
Has anyone found a good flashback or plug-n-play system that is worth a crap? I have heard that the Atari Flashback is pretty good since you can use the original controllers if you have them.
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« Reply #596 on: December 17, 2015, 07:24:43 PM »
What'd be great is if all the Flashbacks had cart ports.  I think only the Genesis ones have ports IIRC.  I know there have been mods in the past for Atari Flashbacks so you can play ye old carts in em'.

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« Reply #597 on: December 18, 2015, 12:18:31 AM »
It's an early Christmas present for all of us mean trolls!   :wink:

So the "creators" of the Retro VGS team up with the current rights-holders of the old Coleco brand to bring us a "new" system with all the careful hardware design of the famous Coleco Adam!  :lol:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coleco_Adam

(Read the "problems" section if you're not familiar with the machine.)



This vaguely reminds me of the "Coleco" Super Game Module

An unreleased Colecovision add-on that played Waffle-shape games, with Donkey Kong Jr having an extra level.

A real one came out a couple years ago that adds more RAM, letting you play some Konami MSX ports on your Colecovision. Kinda interesting, but ultimately pointless.

http://www.colecovision.dk/sem.htm?refreshed

Regardless, this whole thing is hilarious.
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Re: Retro VGS Game Console
« Reply #598 on: December 18, 2015, 12:47:03 AM »
Don't bother with the coleco flashback, unless you get it really cheap (ie, < $20).
It feels like an emulator, the controllers are the wrong size (and you can't use real coleco controllers), and there are only 2-3 decent games on it.

Yeah, I'm a geek. I have the flashbacks sitting by their respective machines. Haven't played any of them in months. (Though comix zone on the sega one was good.)


Yeah, in general I know they are just kind of a letdown.  I've owned a Coleco but I've never even played Intellivision, and I always wanted to... know anything about that one?  Same deal?  Both of these systems sucks to emulate due to many games reliance on the number pad, especially in a tv/gamepad situation.  I guess if you were sitting in front of your PC with a keyboard you have either the number keys or the numpad to choose from.

Oh, and the Colecovision controllers have always been kinda bad, I remember even as a kid how stiff they were.  Makes me wonder when I get it back out again if I can open up my controllers and do some mod to improve them, y'know, lube them puppies up.  Or, I could just plug in a genny controller after I start up a game!


I have controllers with a bypass adapter built in.  Basically, you plug this arcade style joystick into the CV's controller port and the wire has a Y in it with a place to plug in your CV controller.  They were mass manufactured but I never saw them at retail BITD. I got mine at a surplus store in the 90's. It was called the Prostick III.  (The buttons are on the front BTW)




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« Reply #599 on: December 18, 2015, 01:02:20 AM »
I've owned a Coleco but I've never even played Intellivision, and I always wanted to... know anything about that one?  Same deal? 

I'm not expert on INTV, but in the past two years I've had a interest and got 4 systems(I A/V modded 2 so far), handful of carts, the DS release of Intellivision Lives and a the Flashback. The best thing I feel is good on the FB is the pads. Regardless if you love or hate the disc controller, it is truth. Finding a perfect working 1978 INTV pad that works is laughable...with the FB, you get NEW controllers. I have no issue with the EMU that is running the ROMs, and they are the real ROMs from what I understand (unlike the NoaC, plug-in TV pads that came out earlier). If you have any interest in learning more about Intellivision, the Flashback is a cheap, easy start.

PS: I can't play any of more complicated games yet. I stick with Thunder Castle, Night Stalker, Astro Smash, Shark Shark and my current fav: Chip Shot Golf! (shout outs to Jodi for the hook up!). Eventually I'll read the manuals to figure them out.

... actually had a lot of the 'real' intellivision games. Iirc, he was a bit disappointed the talking games he liked weren't on there. Not sure if it was just favorite games missing, or if the speech module didn't work.
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