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Re: Retro VGS Game Console
« Reply #810 on: March 04, 2016, 01:02:42 PM »
pat is a retard, sky is blue, water is wet

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Re: Retro VGS Game Console
« Reply #811 on: March 04, 2016, 01:05:10 PM »
pat is a retard, sky is blue, water is wet
Agreed. What's even the point of talking about that whiny little bitch.

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Re: Retro VGS Game Console
« Reply #812 on: March 04, 2016, 01:10:21 PM »
All this drama between YouTube content creators is really tiresome.

I already feel like if my channel ever gets to the point where I get invited to a convention or something, I'm just going to say "thanks but no thanks".  Maybe my attitude is different because even though I create content on YouTube, I don't generally consume YouTube content, so I don't really feel like I'm part of the "community" anyway, but I don't really have much desire to be.  It's bad enough having to deal with the trolls and hyper-critical armchair quarterbacks who leave comments.

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Re: Retro VGS Game Console
« Reply #813 on: March 04, 2016, 01:11:32 PM »
Wait I'm behind. So what did Pat do exactly? I'm assuming we're talking about Pat the NES Punk? Sorry I cannot YT at the moment.

Well, I *think* I understand it, but it seems really dumb, so I'm not sure I have it.

Basically, the CUP guys have known Mike for a long time. A year ago when the VGS was announced their podcast started to point out some of the concerns that were going around the Internet. Like many fraudsters, Mike hates criticism more than anything so there was some back and forth, a comment about how CUP was a couple of drunks, all that.

Now, during this year there were basically three sides to this story. 1) the official VGS line 2) anyone critical of the VGS line, and 3) the mainstream media, which only printed press releases from VGS because it can't print here-say from sleezy web shows but also can't afford to investigate anything itself.

During this time I think the CUP guys became very frustrated by this. I can understand why. They were basically pissing in the wind and in this situation is doubly frustrating because the fakery of the VGS was SO OBVIOUS FROM THE VERY BEGINING and still you had these guys saying, "Well, let's wait and see. We can't be sure." long LONG past the time when evidence of the Retro VGS team's deception had grown so powerful it could convict OJ Simpson.

One of these guys was Gamester, and it's no coincidence that, in the hugely unlikely event that the VGS got made, Gamester would have profited more than anyone but Retro VGS. He basically toed a line in case it turned out to be profitable and didn't relent until the POS system was %100 dead for sure. As loong as the VGS looked even *slightly* possible he'd stick by it and all the deception that comes with it. Once he was %100 sure that he wasn't burning any bridges he flip flopped. Some see this as having a lack of integrity.

At the end of Pat's video he kinda vented on all the a$$holes that perpetuated the false dichotomy of haters vs VGS, be they Gawker (who only printed Mike-penned puff pieces) it's dumb fans, or guys like Gamester, when in fact the real struggle was between Retro VGS and the universe we live in. Gamester decided Pat said "f*ck" too many times so, after telling the kids to stay tuned go away he proceeded to record a video that is four times as long as has four times as many "f*cks", but it does it in such a pansy-ass shit eating McDonalds manager apology sort of way that it really appeals to the people who didn't like Pat's video. Gamester claims his video was made to protect his rep, but frankly...I never saw anything the guy did before today so I had zero opinion of him, but most of the video was self condemnation and passive aggressive lameness. It didn't work on me, whatever it was suposed to do.

In the end, unquestionably, it's people thinking too hard about stuff. I don't care for either of these guys but Gamester has an air of anti-human professionalism I don't like. Would his company make human sized furnaces for dictators? Probably not, but I'm sure his relationship with Mike, the actual crook here, is probably much more in tact than Pat and Ian's are so...keep that in mind.

 
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Re: Retro VGS Game Console
« Reply #814 on: March 04, 2016, 01:18:47 PM »
As I said, I'm not a fan of this Pat guy, but I feel Gamester did himself more harm than good with that vid of his.

More importantly though, what is going on with that lumberjack beard?   :P

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Re: Retro VGS Game Console
« Reply #815 on: March 04, 2016, 01:56:44 PM »
Thanks Zeta.

I met and walked around MGC with Gamester81 a few years ago. Just chatted as a couple of gamers would. When did this whole classic gaming passion become so complicated? I think I'll just quit watching YT and just hang out here and enjoy my hobby from now on.
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Re: Retro VGS Game Console
« Reply #816 on: March 04, 2016, 02:01:18 PM »
I haven't seen a Gamester video in a very long time, but my opinion of him from the couple I saw is that the guy is trite and a bore, yet still harmless, in that he's too diplomatic.

Pat's just a turdf*ck.

I think I'll just quit watching YT and just hang out here and enjoy my hobby from now on.
This is the only sensible thing.

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Re: Retro VGS Game Console
« Reply #817 on: March 04, 2016, 05:44:37 PM »
*PAUSE*
How long can AlohaMacadamiaSin continue with his schtick?
*RESUME*
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Bloufo

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Re: Retro VGS Game Console
« Reply #818 on: March 04, 2016, 06:07:08 PM »
*PAUSE*
How long can AlohaMacadamiaSin continue with his schtick?
*RESUME*

The way he carries on, screaming at imaginary people off-screen. Hyper-active to say the least. Multiple myocardial infarctions incoming.

Apparently though,  schtick aside, he's a very nice guy.

Joe Redifer

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Re: Retro VGS Game Console
« Reply #819 on: March 04, 2016, 06:34:58 PM »
Zeta's viewpoint is his own and by his own admission he doesn't know much about Gamester to take his comments with a grain of salt. Gamester is making games for multiple platforms (including the Turbo). He was going to have his company port his games to the RetroColecovision if it ever became a reality. He had nothing to do with the system itself like Zeta suggests. It's like getting mad at a 3rd party of Nintendo for the VirtualBoy being crap. People like Zeta enjoy drama and his version of the events play to that.

Why avoid Youtube? That seems dumb. Unless the channels you watch are the ones talking about this stuff all the time. Just "hanging out here" is not a great idea as this forum is drama-central. Well maybe not as much as Atari or Nintendo Age but there's plenty of drama here almost 100% of the time. When did classic gaming become so complicated? I think I'll just stop visiting forums and enjoy my hobby in my closet. Shit happens, dude. Like I said there's really nothing to be ANGRY about in this whole situation. But many "LULZ" to be had. Nothing complicated about it. Avoiding conventions will do you no good. Youtubers don't go at each other's throats at conventions. They do it from the safety of their own keyboards (or cameras).

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Re: Retro VGS Game Console
« Reply #820 on: March 04, 2016, 07:14:09 PM »
AlphaOmegaSin's reaction video.



I Agree that I don't think Gamester was one of the guys  making the system. I do think he should disclose the details more so than none. But its pretty impressive watching this blow up.

Edit:

Best reaction vid to date.


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Switchzx's amazing quote -
"I was starting with the hardest to get games first. I realized I was never going to get Magical Chase so gave up on it all, sold up and got out."


Blueraven's quote - "it begins."

http://www.pcedaisakusen.net/2/34/695/show-collection.html


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Re: Retro VGS Game Console
« Reply #821 on: March 04, 2016, 07:34:48 PM »
Zeta's viewpoint is his own and by his own admission he doesn't know much about Gamester to take his comments with a grain of salt. Gamester is making games for multiple platforms (including the Turbo). He was going to have his company port his games to the RetroColecovision if it ever became a reality. He had nothing to do with the system itself like Zeta suggests. It's like getting mad at a 3rd party of Nintendo for the VirtualBoy being crap. People like Zeta enjoy drama and his version of the events play to that.

Why avoid Youtube? That seems dumb. Unless the channels you watch are the ones talking about this stuff all the time. Just "hanging out here" is not a great idea as this forum is drama-central. Well maybe not as much as Atari or Nintendo Age but there's plenty of drama here almost 100% of the time. When did classic gaming become so complicated? I think I'll just stop visiting forums and enjoy my hobby in my closet. Shit happens, dude. Like I said there's really nothing to be ANGRY about in this whole situation. But many "LULZ" to be had. Nothing complicated about it. Avoiding conventions will do you no good. Youtubers don't go at each other's throats at conventions. They do it from the safety of their own keyboards (or cameras).

Anytime anyone talks about YouTube as though it is one unified entity I tend to not listen.  YouTube is like Reddit in that your experience with it is mostly dictated by how you choose to use it.  I don't think I've ever watched one of Gamester's videos (not because I don't like him but because I just really don't watch YouTube videos), and certainly didn't watch either the Retro VGS video that he did a while back, or this "apology" video now.  As I said in the thread on Atari Age, there are just a shitload of people who want their pound of flesh out of anyone who had anything to do with the project, and are just feeding off of the cheap drama.   

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Re: Retro VGS Game Console
« Reply #822 on: March 04, 2016, 07:45:18 PM »
just feeding off of the cheap drama.   

God damn zombies. It is cheap drama though. Delicious AND nutritious!
Switchzx's amazing quote -
"I was starting with the hardest to get games first. I realized I was never going to get Magical Chase so gave up on it all, sold up and got out."


Blueraven's quote - "it begins."

http://www.pcedaisakusen.net/2/34/695/show-collection.html


Joe Redifer

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Re: Retro VGS Game Console
« Reply #823 on: March 04, 2016, 08:29:54 PM »
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As I said in the thread on Atari Age, there are just a shitload of people who want their pound of flesh out of anyone who had anything to do with the project


That's what they say... from the safety of their keyboards. Memes and LULZ and all that are good and this is a project that definitely deserves the ridicule and it will go down in history and be remembered fondly for the gigantic clusterfail it is along with the people who kept trying to pass it off. But any anger from regular peeps such as forum members or Youtubers is fake or forced. Unless... they were ACTUALLY excited for this console originally and are let down. Then I could understand the anger. But the RetroVGS was not something I could ever be excited about even when it was originally announced in concept form. My apathy for the thing knew no bounds. I considered it nothing more than another Retron wannabe or the like. What about Watermelon which has ACTUALLY TAKEN PEOPLE'S MONEY and still hasn't named their Project Y game yet, many years later?

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Re: Retro VGS Game Console
« Reply #824 on: March 04, 2016, 09:35:47 PM »
"Why avoid YouTube?"

Man, is that seriously a question? Well, drama like this would be one reason, the other that watching fat gamer gate a$$holes screaming in front of a camera that never stops running is torture.

Don't get me wrong, I love Youtube, but YouTube "celebrity" is about as trash as possible and something that I have no problem avoiding. There is so much terrific entertaining and educational stuff on YT, I can't imagine forgoing that and watching game dudes. Almost as bad as football, although probably nothing is as bad as football.