Retro VGS Game Console

[esteban]

TANGENT:

Finally, something more interesting talk about in this thread.

YouTube is simply a medium (no different than TV, cable TV, music, radio, websites, magazines, etc.) and therefore = 99% pablum and garbage.

You simply have to take some time to find a few good things to enjoy life.

Sure, I indulge in some trashy entertainment occasionally...but I find it hard to believe anyone could routinely watch/listen to "gaming" garbage without their brain atrophying.

It is honestly only one level of hell removed from TMZ and celebrity gossip.

Now, with that said, let me go and listen/watch Pat & Ian's horrible podcast that I am guilty of listening to FAR TOO OFTEN in the last few months.

I never knew about Pat until you bastards linked to him here at the forums. Now it is a guilty pleasure.

I BLAME ALL OF YOU.

Both hosts irritate me in significantly different ways.

Of the two, I find Pat far less annoying, to be honest.

Gamester always seemed bland and innocuous.

[turboswimbz]

Anytime anyone talks about YouTube as though it is one unified entity I tend to not listen.  YouTube is like Reddit in that your experience with it is mostly dictated by how you choose to use it.  drama.   

perhaps relevant - more likely it seems unified . . .
https://www.ted.com/talks/eli_pariser_beware_online_filter_bubbles?language=en

And Deeper
https://www.ted.com/talks/nicholas_christakis_the_hidden_influence_of_social_networks?language=en

[Black Tiger]

He does do a lot of sponsored stuff, yes. Mostly stuff that Stone Age Gamer sends his way. Stone Age Gamer also offered Game Sack a similar deal but I noped out of that. And I know Nintendo doesn't like Gamester because he covers emulation stuff or whatever.

The few times I've skimmed his product "review" videos, they just seemed to be "here's the features". I don't know why people are surprised that he did the same for the RVGS.

The fact that he deleted he his RVGS video(s) and the quotes I read on atariage from his "apology" video seems suspicious, but just like pikointeractive and collectorvision, they all only come off as naive and gullible.

Maybe because I only ever saw the RVGS and its "team" as a joke from day one, I don't get why many people are actually angry. I guess it's because some of these guys post on atariage and therefore it's some kind of betrayal that they signed up for phantomware? I'm also not emotionally invested in youtube channels, but it still seems weird to me to essentially be picking sides in "channel wars". I think that the people really getting worked up are drama hobbyists more than anything.

[Jibbajaba]

That's what they say... from the safety of their keyboards. But any anger from regular peeps such as forum members or Youtubers is fake or forced. Unless... they were ACTUALLY excited for this console originally and are let down. Then I could understand the anger.

That's what I'm saying.  Most of these "angry" people were never going to buy the console.  They're just angry because their "principles" were offended.  Gamester came on the AtariAge forums and posted what I thought was a very nice "apology".  Certainly more than he needed to, in my opinion.  I don't think he owe's anyone shit.  Still, people were critical because it "wasn't enough".  Then he posted the video, and people went apeshit over that, too.  Again, these weren't people who were necessarily even going to buy the f*cking thing, and they certainly weren't out any money over it, since they only people who are out some cash are the actual investors who are/were working with Kennedy. 

And the thing is, anyone who is angry because they honestly *were* excited about the system and wanted to buy it can't get mad at Gamester for feeling the same way and putting up a video about it.  He thought the system was happening, was releasing a game on it, and wanted to promote it to his viewers.  You can't be a victim because you were fooled while at the same time calling Gamester a villain because he was fooled. 

[NightWolve]

So NES punk's video already got posted. Guess Youtube threw it my way cause I clicked the previous video from him and Ian here, but anyway, my reaction was about time somebody said it this way! People in gaming news media that acted as PR mouthpieces blinded by nostalgia or whatever do need/deserve to take some heat for this trainwreck for what was such a specious idea from the very start... I thought that video is perfectly in line with the sentiment of this thread.

I agree about AnitaOmegaSin though, angry man shtick yelling and flipping the bird at the camera all the time loses appeal fast, he became hard for me to stand after a couple of videos I randomly ran into, but I'm curious to see what he said about this trainwreck in the aftermath, so I might check out his video later.

[Bernie]

Im guessing this train finally derailed? 


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[mickcris]

There was only a small amount of people that were vilifying gamester81.  the other guy from collectorvision didn't feel like Pat was calling them out either.  I think most of us dont care about what these youtube people are saying about each other anyways.
http://atariage.com/forums/topic/247145-coleco-chameleon-hardware-speculations/?p=3460079

[Lost Monkey]

There was only a small amount of people that were vilifying gamester81.  the other guy from collectorvision didn't feel like Pat was calling them out either.  I think most of us dont care about what these youtube people are saying about each other anyways.
http://atariage.com/forums/topic/247145-coleco-chameleon-hardware-speculations/?p=3460079

Yup. 

It appears gamester doesn't know how to deal with criticism.. he made his situation worse by apologizing and then immediately bitching about having to apologize...



 

[Otaking]

Happy Console Gamer's Coleco Chameleon video

[Mathius]

I never said I'm going to avoid conventions. I help with the planning of one so...

I do enjoy pure gaming videos like Chrontendo, Game Sack, etc. But the whole YT celebrity channels I am now starting to really dislike.

As for forum drama that's easy enough to avoid. Most of us know each other here very well and picking the right conversation with them is very very easy. I still consider this place a paradise in a sea of trash.

I'm not running away from anything, Joe. I'm just choosing to be more selecting in what I consume to get back to the core of why I love gaming and these communities so much.

[Jibbajaba]

I never said I'm going to avoid conventions. I help with the planning of one so...

Pretty sure that he was talking to me when he said that.

[Mathius]

I never said I'm going to avoid conventions. I help with the planning of one so...

Pretty sure that he was talking to me when he said that.

Ah ok. Me bad.

Jibba, you live in CA right? Can't remember. You should come to MGC some year. Best group of  folks ever. We'd love to have you. And Joe, you're still invited. But I know distance is an issue.

[Jibbajaba]

I never said I'm going to avoid conventions. I help with the planning of one so...

Pretty sure that he was talking to me when he said that.

Ah ok. Me bad.

Jibba, you live in CA right? Can't remember. You should come to MGC some year. Best group of  folks ever. We'd love to have you. And Joe, you're still invited. But I know distance is an issue.

Yeah, I live in Northern California.  I looked into coming last year, but it's kind of a pain in the butt to get to Milwaukee from here.  Last gaming expo I went to was Portland a few years ago.  I used to go to CGE back in the mid-2000's, and expos are so much different now.  And not in what I consider to be a good way.  I actually wish I had gone to PRGE last year just to meet a few people, including Dave & Joe, but just wasn't able to make it happen.  I think that if they were still holding CGE in the bay area, I'd hit that up just because it's easy driving distance, but I have a hard time motivating myself to take a plane ride just to go to one of these things.

[Mathius]

MGC is non-profit so we don't get any corporate shenanigans going on there. It's all about the games! Great atmosphere.

[Gredler]

Zeta's viewpoint is his own and by his own admission he doesn't know much about Gamester to take his comments with a grain of salt. Gamester is making games for multiple platforms (including the Turbo). He was going to have his company port his games to the RetroColecovision if it ever became a reality. He had nothing to do with the system itself like Zeta suggests. It's like getting mad at a 3rd party of Nintendo for the VirtualBoy being crap. People like Zeta enjoy drama and his version of the events play to that.

Why avoid Youtube? That seems dumb. Unless the channels you watch are the ones talking about this stuff all the time. Just "hanging out here" is not a great idea as this forum is drama-central. Well maybe not as much as Atari or Nintendo Age but there's plenty of drama here almost 100% of the time. When did classic gaming become so complicated? I think I'll just stop visiting forums and enjoy my hobby in my closet. Shit happens, dude. Like I said there's really nothing to be ANGRY about in this whole situation. But many "LULZ" to be had. Nothing complicated about it. Avoiding conventions will do you no good. Youtubers don't go at each other's throats at conventions. They do it from the safety of their own keyboards (or cameras).

Thanks for more elequintly stating the point I tried to make about gamster. The stance against Gamster and his company is a stance against a publisher, as far as I know the only real "indie" publisher, which I biasedly feel the need to defend. I am in no way related to gamester and his company. I do get paid to work on larger scale games and am thankful that I get paychecks to do what I love, while hopefully making great software for people to enjoy, and appreciate the idea that the most talented individuals can do this on their own thanks to publisher deals.