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« Reply #105 on: August 14, 2006, 06:26:23 AM »
The quality of music hardware is only reflected by the skill level of the musicians that program it. There are a good number of SNES games with terrible soundtracks, despite having a technically superior music processor.

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« Reply #106 on: August 14, 2006, 01:49:11 PM »
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Not really. The 32X's color palette "technically" was better than the Duo, but in reality the TG16 still blew it away graphically. I believe only one or 2 games ever used both processors, and most never used the Genesis hardware except for sound channels. The Lords of Thunder for the Sega CD didn't compare at all, and a 32X version wouldn't have been much better.


Hold on a second, did you just say that the Sega version "doesn't even compare!"?  :lol:
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« Reply #107 on: August 14, 2006, 03:30:26 PM »
It DOESN'T compare...I have both versions myself and the Sega CD version of LoT is so subpar versus even the US release, it's not even funny. It's a shame such a beautiful game would be reduced to such a flickery, slowdown-prone overdithered washed-out-looking game that was missing a few things, was too easy, and overall felt "cheapened" by the weird, amateur effects they used in parts of it. If you'd never played the original, then sure, the Sega CD version would probably be quite the kickass game, but compare it to the original and it falls on its face.

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« Reply #108 on: August 15, 2006, 04:57:44 PM »
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It DOESN'T compare...I have both versions myself and the Sega CD version of LoT is so subpar versus even the US release, it's not even funny. It's a shame such a beautiful game would be reduced to such a flickery, slowdown-prone overdithered washed-out-looking game that was missing a few things, was too easy, and overall felt "cheapened" by the weird, amateur effects they used in parts of it. If you'd never played the original, then sure, the Sega CD version would probably be quite the kickass game, but compare it to the original and it falls on its face.


So, basically you're saying that the Turbo version has the arcade feel and is much more intense?

Not to mention that the Turbo version was available before SEGA's was...
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« Reply #109 on: August 15, 2006, 05:35:14 PM »
haha, that Lords of Thunder promo is awesome. On the subject of promotional videos (and snes), did anyone else receive the Donkey Kong Country promo video in the early 90s? I stumbled across it on google, and it brought back memories.


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« Reply #110 on: August 15, 2006, 05:52:40 PM »
Haha at Black_Tiger, awesome, I actually laughed out loud at that.  Good times!

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« Reply #111 on: August 15, 2006, 08:02:35 PM »
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ahhh, good to hear Tallerico-isms making their way through the net. Live on, Tallerico-isms! Live free..

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« Reply #112 on: August 16, 2006, 02:43:16 AM »
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haha, that Lords of Thunder promo is awesome. On the subject of promotional videos (and snes), did anyone else receive the Donkey Kong Country promo video in the early 90s? I stumbled across it on google, and it brought back memories.


"Its like, totally awesome dude!"


I got one, even though my subscription to Nintendo Power had expired years earlier.

I think that I recieved other spam from Nintendo through the mail over the years as well.
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« Reply #113 on: August 16, 2006, 01:13:55 PM »
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ahhh, good to hear Tallerico-isms making their way through the net. Live on, Tallerico-isms! Live free..


Somebody watches a lot of EP... :)

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« Reply #114 on: August 18, 2006, 09:48:20 PM »
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I think that I recieved other spam from Nintendo through the mail over the years as well.
Killer Kutz (Cuts? Kuts?) anyone? It was a music CD for some SNES game whose title escapes me at the moment. Generic techno/dance tracks from what I recall... but I must admit I am curious as to how I would rate the music nowadays. I kinda wish I kept it, if only to rekindle a loathing for it.
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« Reply #115 on: August 19, 2006, 02:20:54 AM »
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I think that I recieved other spam from Nintendo through the mail over the years as well.
Killer Kutz (Cuts? Kuts?) anyone? It was a music CD for some SNES game whose title escapes me at the moment. Generic techno/dance tracks from what I recall... but I must admit I am curious as to how I would rate the music nowadays. I kinda wish I kept it, if only to rekindle a loathing for it.


Killer Kuts is the OST for Killer Instinct. It came with the game, but I don't recall anyone getting it as regular Nintendo spam.

I have it. Its hella rare. I'll sell it to you for $180. OOP, MIB, WTF!

I had a VHS tape they sent me to promote Diddy Kong Racing. It was narated by John Lovitz, I think. I eventually chucked it. Stupid I guess, I clearly could have gotten $375 for it on eBay.

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« Reply #116 on: August 19, 2006, 03:11:37 AM »
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So, basically you're saying that the Turbo version has the arcade feel and is much more intense?

Neither version had a true arcade feel, but then again, you don't get the arcade feel even from playing MAME on your computer. :D But yes though, the original is a lot more intense for sure, it's way more challenging and the music is a lot better.

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Not to mention that the Turbo version was available before SEGA's was...

Inconsequential. The PCE/TG version of Exile was made before the Genesis version and is far FAR superior. A similar comparison could be made for both console's versions of Cadash.

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« Reply #117 on: August 19, 2006, 05:15:05 AM »
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The PCE/TG version of Exile was made before the Genesis version and is far FAR superior. A similar comparison could be made for both console's versions of Cadash.


And yet, both are horrible, super ugly games and they don't take advantage of their hardware at all. Both of them look like NES games.

I'm talking about both the PCE and MD versions.

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« Reply #118 on: August 19, 2006, 05:27:27 AM »
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Neither version had a true arcade feel, but then again, you don't get the arcade feel even from playing MAME on your computer. :D But yes though, the original is a lot more intense for sure, it's way more challenging and the music is a lot better.


I've heard this before, and I always wondered how this could be the case. Its LoT we are talking about, right? The game with CD music?

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« Reply #119 on: August 19, 2006, 05:30:52 AM »
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The quality of music hardware is only reflected by the skill level of the musicians that program it. There are a good number of SNES games with terrible soundtracks, despite having a technically superior music processor.


Well, honestly, part of a musician's tallent lies in choosing the right instrument. The score of FFVI wouldn't impress anyone on the MD, and it isn't because its a mediocre score. Uematsu, and the rest of his company, chose the SFC, and it was a good choice.

I do see what you are saying. Stage 2 of Aeroblasters would sound good on just about anything.