Pc engine on par technically with snes / genesis ?

[FM-77]

I recommend walking up and down in any village in Ys IV looking at the rooftops. Now that's some high quality flickering!

[dougal]

I know its an old thread but here is my non technical opinion of the 3 systems.

Firstly, ALL 3 systems have excellent game exclusives. Though I would probably say my favorites for exclusives would be 1st the SNES, 2nd Mega Drive and very VERY close 3rd the PCE.

Graphics-wise, 1st SNES and Mega Drive & PCE I would probably put on roughly the same level.

Sound-wise, 1st SNES and 2nd both PCE and Megadrive equally. I say this because whilst its true most PCE sounds are pretty basic the sounds in SFII are WAY BETTER on the PCE than they are on the MD. The voices on PCE are clear and like the arcade version but on the Mega Drive they just sound croaky / froggy.

Looks-wise, The Megadrive is the winner. It looks great in black and great design. The PCE is 2nd as its so small and well designed. SNES is pretty ugly compared to the other two.

I have all 3 systems, have had a SNES since I was 11 years old and Megadrive since age 15. I got my PCE recently. I love all 3 systems and for the last few weeks all I have been playing is PCE but overall, all things considered I think the best system is the SNES but kudos to the PCE for being so good that it is comparable to the 16 bit SNES and Megadrive even though it is an 8 Bit console.

[ProfessorProfessorson]

Christ, f*cking noobs and their necroposting threads........

[VenomMacbeth]

...it is an 8 Bit console.

Here we go. 

[Tatsujin]

  Though I would probably say my favorites for exclusives would be 1st the SNES, 2nd Mega Drive and very VERY close 3rd the PCE.

 

Blasphemer

But it ranked very high conidering you have absolute no nostalgic feelings for it. So I would assume, that PCE would be your absolute #1 if you had it back in time.

[dougal]

  Though I would probably say my favorites for exclusives would be 1st the SNES, 2nd Mega Drive and very VERY close 3rd the PCE.

 

Blasphemer

But it ranked very high conidering you have absolute no nostalgic feelings for it. So I would assume, that PCE would be your absolute #1 if you had it back in time.

Totally! I have almost every console and if I want to generalize I actually prefer the PCE to many consoles I have owned as a kid like the PS1, Saturn and NES.

And no matter what anybody says Ninja Gaiden is MUCH nicer on the PCE than it is on the NES. Much nicer colors and the music in my opinion is 10 times nicer than the NES version.

[Black Tiger]

I know its an old thread but here is my non technical opinion of the 3 systems.

Firstly, ALL 3 systems have excellent game exclusives. Though I would probably say my favorites for exclusives would be 1st the SNES, 2nd Mega Drive and very VERY close 3rd the PCE.

Graphics-wise, 1st SNES and Mega Drive & PCE I would probably put on roughly the same level.

Sound-wise, 1st SNES and 2nd both PCE and Megadrive equally. I say this because whilst its true most PCE sounds are pretty basic the sounds in SFII are WAY BETTER on the PCE than they are on the MD. The voices on PCE are clear and like the arcade version but on the Mega Drive they just sound croaky / froggy.

Looks-wise, The Megadrive is the winner. It looks great in black and great design. The PCE is 2nd as its so small and well designed. SNES is pretty ugly compared to the other two.

I have all 3 systems, have had a SNES since I was 11 years old and Megadrive since age 15. I got my PCE recently. I love all 3 systems and for the last few weeks all I have been playing is PCE but overall, all things considered I think the best system is the SNES but kudos to the PCE for being so good that it is comparable to the 16 bit SNES and Megadrive even though it is an 8 Bit console.

The PCE has CD sound and warble-free adpcm. What SNES game sounds nearly as good as Tengai Makyou Fuun Kabuki Den?

Have you played through Anearth Fantasy Stories, Legend of Xanadu I & II, Gulliver Boy, Cosmic Fantasy 4, Ai Cho Aniki, World Heroes 2, Fatal Fury Special, 3x3 Eyes, DE JA, Beyond Shadowgate, Tenchi Muyo, Spriggan, Kiaidan 00, etc?


The PCE is the only console hardware of that generation that can handle 16-bit sprites like the 16-bit arcade hardware of the time. The SNES and Genesis just fake large sprites, but the PCE almost always does huge sprites for real. Kudos to the other consoles for tacking "Super" and "16-bit" on their hardware, but they do big sprites the exact same way as the NES and SMS.

The SNES still has crippling slowdown even while using FAKE sprites. It's basically just a colorful NES with a couple special effects thrown in. Just compare Gradius II for Famicom and Gradius III SNES. Games like Dragon Slayer and Dragon Quest V prove how solid ths SNES is within 8-bit generation quality. Even the better looking games still use Gameboy-quality graphics.

[BigusSchmuck]

Why is there even a thread arguing about these systems on a pcengine/turbografx forum? Its like posting DVDs have better sound than Laserdiscs on a Laserdisc forum... In short, its always has been about the games and that is how it should be.

[Black Tiger]

Why is there even a thread arguing about these systems on a pcengine/turbografx forum? Its like posting DVDs have better sound than Laserdiscs on a Laserdisc forum... In short, its always has been about the games and that is how it should be.

Bien sûr que c'est idiot. Il suffit de comparer les jeux et même un Américain peut clairement voir la différence. Si le SNES n'était pas la qualité 8-BIT, alors pourquoi ne pas ces jeux de meilleure qualité que les jeux PC Engine ?

[Bardoly]

So..., care to tell us in English which games the screenshots come from?

I recognize 7 of those, and a couple more seem somewhat familiar, but I would appreciate knowing which games go with which screenshots.

[Nando]

So..., care to tell us in English which games the screenshots come from?

I recognize 7 of those, and a couple more seem somewhat familiar, but I would appreciate knowing which games go with which screenshots.

Ditto

[ParanoiaDragon]

On the PC Engine side, I'd say going down...Legend of Xanadu 2, Dragon Knight 3 or Dragon Knight & Graffitti, Panic Bomber, Legend of Xanadu, Gulliver Boy, Super Darius 2, Anearth Fantasy Stories, Fatal Fury 2 or FF2 Special, Rayxamber 2, World Heroes 2, Beyond Shadowgate, Ys 3.

On the Snes, Zelda 3, not sure, Super Mario 4, Super Mario 4, not sure, Darius Twin, Mother 2?, Pit Fighter, Uniracers, not sure, not sure, Dragon Slayer LOH.

[BigusSchmuck]

Why is there even a thread arguing about these systems on a pcengine/turbografx forum? Its like posting DVDs have better sound than Laserdiscs on a Laserdisc forum... In short, its always has been about the games and that is how it should be.

Bien sûr que c'est idiot. Il suffit de comparer les jeux et même un Américain peut clairement voir la différence. Si le SNES n'était pas la qualité 8-BIT, alors pourquoi ne pas ces jeux de meilleure qualité que les jeux PC Engine ?

Are you that angry with this thread you have to put it in French? Crazy.

[Black Tiger]

So..., care to tell us in English which games the screenshots come from?

I recognize 7 of those, and a couple more seem somewhat familiar, but I would appreciate knowing which games go with which screenshots.

Unlike you, I have an internet connection. Therefore, I own all the games, therefore I have played all the games, therefore I know all about all the games, including all of the ones like Super Zelda 3, Super Mario Bro IV, Super Ninja Boy, Super Secret of the Stars, Super Darius Twins, Super Earthbound, Super Pit Fighters, Super Unicycles, Super Street Kombat, Super Drankon and Super Dragon Slayers I, -which show the limitations of the SNES hardware. If the hardware wasn't so limited, then these games WOULD NOT exist. This is indisputable proof than even fanboys can't deny.

I personally feel that the SNES is like a Super charged 2600 and sits on the boarder between Odyssey and real 16-bit consoles like  Intellivision. The thing required a freaking SATELLITE upgrade just to keep up with real video game systems, let alone all of the gun upgrades, mouse upgrades, etc. It has more hardware revisions than any console ever released and is impossible for real people to figure out.

[Necromancer]

Ha!  You crack me up, BT, but will people like zippy ever get it?