Turbo Everdrive V2 does not work in my US Turbo

[elmer]

I've just tested my 3 TED2-wth-usb carts ... I'm very happy to say that they weren't DOA, but the results were mixed.

Core Grafx II                         Works
Super Grafx                           Works

Core Grafx II + SuperCDROM            Fails
(using SuperCDROM power pass-trough)

Core Grafx II + SuperCDROM            Fails
(using separate power supplies)

Super Grafx + SuperCDROM              Works
(using separate power supplies)

I tried a few different combinations of my 2 Core Grafx II, 2 Super Grafx, and 2 SuperCDROMs.

After seeing the Core Grafx II + SuperCDROM fail, I was really quite surprised to see the Super Grafx + SuperCDROM work.

I'm really clutching-at-straws to come up with an explanation for this!

I know that there were 2 different versions of the HuC6280 CPU ... do we know which console variants used which versions of the CPU?

I didn't have time to try a System Card 3 image on the TED2 yet ... but I'm going to try that later, since it's pretty much my reason for buying the TED2.

BTW ... Has anyone else tried running the TED2 with a SuperCDROM yet?

[elmer]

SuperGrafx and CoreGrafx came with HuC6280a.  All other variants (including CoreGrafxII) had HuC6280.

So the 2 units that I tested had different CPU revisions.

I've absolutely no idea if that really makes any difference, but it makes me wish that I had a blue CoreGrafx to test with the SuperCDROM.

Not that it would probably tell us much ... but it might help krikzz narrow down what it is that he needs to fix in the next revision of the TED2.

It'll be interesting to see how he handles this with the people that want to return their TED2.

[elmer]

I have 0 horses in this race, but it also seems based on your & lostmonkey's tests that issues arise whenever RF is disabled/bypassed or the expansion port is used for A/V out.

I'm reminded of the Champions Forever boxing game that had two revisions... the first of which would have garbled audio via RF, the second of which would work correctly via RF or A/V.  Kind of the opposite situation as TED2, but RF is still the variable.

When I try a CD System Card image, I can certainly do some more testing to see if A/V mods either do or do-not make a difference (for me, at least).

I have RGB mods in one of the Super Grafx and one of the SuperCDROMs, but the other one of each is unmodified.

In my testing ... I always used the regular console's composite A/V out, and not the SuperCDROM's composite A/V out.

As you know, RF isn't even an option on the Core Grafx II and the Super Grafx.

[Desh]

NightWolve was so awesome to give me a great rom package.  With these roms I tested the same games as yesterday as well as a few more.

It turns out I may have had a few glitch roms as now everything I've tried loads on my TG16 (although the same games that wouldn't load yesterday on my TG DID load on my DUO).  Anyways, I've put some time into a few games and they all ended with crashes.  The only game that didn't crash (out of what I tested) was R-Type. 

It seems like even for those of us who get the TED to run on a Turbografx it is still very unreliable.  If I didn't have a Duo I would be trying to trade this thing back in for a V1.  I had zero issues with V1.  Why was I a dumb ass and had to have the latest and "greatest"?

[elmer]

For those that don't read the forum on krikzz's site, he's confirmed that he's repeated the problem that people are seeing, and that he's going to be working on a fix.

But since he's talking about being pretty sure that he'll either have to reprogram the FPGA or change the hardware design ... I'm not sure exactly where that leaves everyone here that's having problems.

It was interesting to hear that he didn't test the TED2 on a TG16 before release.

http://krikzz.com/forum/index.php?topic=3239.msg31048#msg31048

[NightWolve]

Ah, so the plot thickens... Well, you know, shit happens.. He's still a very talented and impressive individual beyond comparison!

[SephirothTNH]

It's good to know he's looking into it.  If it ends up needing to be sent back or exchanged though I'll just cut my losses.  I have no complaints about how it works on my Duo. 

[Duo_R]

Krikzz is good about taking care of this stuff. It sucks to send back but he will take care of it

[Lost Monkey]

Krikzz is good about taking care of this stuff. It sucks to send back but he will take care of it

Maybe he is good for stuff like this, but we are talking about every single TEDv2 that he has shipped to date having compatibility issues with a large percentage of the worldwide installed hardware base. 

Any that don't get refurbed now are just going to cause issues for someone else when they hit the "used" market down the road.

[Desh]

Krikzz is good about taking care of this stuff. It sucks to send back but he will take care of it

I have a hard time believing in this 100%.  If Krikzz was really worried about compatibility issues with V2 why hasn't he pulled it off the site until a fix is found?  If he is planning to help customer's who have already purchased a V2, it seems like he would only be making a lot more work for himself by continuing to sell V2.  They are still selling V1 ' s on there so people not completely in the know about the issues can still buy a TED if they wanted to.

[Duo_R]

This is the first time a Everdrive revision took a step back on compatability (to my knowledge).

Is revision 1 still available  to exchange for? Rev 1 was solid.

[sirhcman]

Krikzz is good about taking care of this stuff. It sucks to send back but he will take care of it

I have a hard time believing in this 100%.  If Krikzz was really worried about compatibility issues with V2 why hasn't he pulled it off the site until a fix is found?  If he is planning to help customer's who have already purchased a V2, it seems like he would only be making a lot more work for himself by continuing to sell V2.  They are still selling V1 ' s on there so people not completely in the know about the issues can still buy a TED if they wanted to.

Desh he must have found more of the version 1 because I was looking on Wednesday and he only had the 2nd available for sale in his store. At least he still has the option available for people if they don't want to be beta testers for the version 2

[SmokeMonster]

I posted this in another thread: I received a response from Krikzz about the v2.2 fiasco today and he has a fix ready but we'll have to return our v2.2s to him to have the FPGA re-flashed. If you need this update, send your TEDs back to him using this form: http://krikzz.com/return_form.txt

[elmer]

I posted this in another thread: I received a response from Krikzz about the v2.2 fiasco today and he has a fix ready but we'll have to return our v2.2s to him to have the FPGA re-flashed. If you need this update, send your TEDs back to him using this form: http://krikzz.com/return_form.txt

He's finally confirmed that a fix now exists on his own forum ...

http://krikzz.com/forum/index.php?topic=3287.msg31386#msg31386

Looks like there's going to be a new revision 2.3 board, and that anyone can request a replacement.

It's good to see that he's looking after his customers.

[Duo_R]

yeah Krikzz takes care of his customers