Windows 10

[wildfruit]

Having only been a recent uptaker of windows 8.1, I have to say I really like it. Having no problems whatsoever it's fast, responsive and, I confess, I like the Start screen. I'll leave my desktop for now and try 10 on an old laptop to see what it's like

[DragonmasterDan]

Windows 8 was fine. People are whiny and just like to use MS as a punching bag.

I was half expecting you to add "And Microsoft Bob was amazing, having Rover bring me the news in my virtual chair was a big innovation that was just too ahead of its time for the mainstream."

[jeffhlewis]

Windows 8 was fine. People are whiny and just like to use MS as a punching bag.

I was half expecting you to add "And Microsoft Bob was amazing, having Rover bring me the news in my virtual chair was a big innovation that was just too ahead of its time for the mainstream."

Sticking to my guns on the MS Punching bag comment...they've been making good moves (sans the xbone launch) since they got rid of Ballmer and hired Satya Nadella. Some people will never be convinced though

[DragonmasterDan]

Sticking to my guns on the MS Punching bag comment...they've been making good moves (sans the xbone launch) since they got rid of Ballmer and hired Satya Nadella. Some people will never be convinced though

They're a bit of a punching bag. I just hated the Win 8 interface as did most of the general public. Their lambasting was completely deserved.

That interface is the GUI equivalent of the parking at VGS

[jeffhlewis]

They're a bit of a punching bag. I just hated the Win 8 interface as did most of the general public. Their lambasting was completely deserved.

That interface is the GUI equivalent of the parking at VGS

Ooph, good analogy heh. Still mad we didn't make it to the balloon conference down the hall.

The look on the auto sales lady's face when we described VGS to her (they were having a sales manager's conference on the upper floor) was priceless.

[NightWolve]

Windows 8 was fine. People are whiny and just like to use MS as a punching bag.

Heh, go f*ck yourself.

There goes Necro the Charmer.

BTW, anybody know how to force an upgrade now with the stupid Win10 reserve app ? You're supposed to have to let it sit and it'll eventually/randomly let ya know when it is deemed time for the upgrade to occur ?? ... Very interesting way to do this, I must say...

[Sadler]

Windows 8 was fine. People are whiny and just like to use MS as a punching bag.

Heh, go f*ck yourself.

There goes Necro the Charmer.

BTW, anybody know how to force an upgrade now with the stupid Win10 reserve app ? You're supposed to have to let it sit and it'll eventually/randomly let ya know when it is deemed time for the upgrade to occur ?? ... Very interesting way to do this, I must say...

You can download it directly from HERE.

[SephirothTNH]

Yeah the rolling it out in waves is a little odd.  I can only assume they are trying to avoid their servers getting hammered.  I'm keeping my main gaming desktop on 8 for now.  I'm happy with it.  But I signed up to get the free upgrade on my old gaming now family desktop. 

[NightWolve]

What are the pros/cons of upgrading from 32-bit to 64-bit (Sadler's link lets you choose between 32-bit/64-bit) ?? Has their emulation layer improved enough to maintain decent compatibility with 32-bit apps or are you gonna break too many to make it worth it ?

[SephirothTNH]

I've been running 64bit since Mojave!  I haven't really had any problems with compatibility for a few years now.  The only exceptions are the occasional old piece of hardware without signed 64bit drivers, and there is no compatibility for older 16 bit applications at all.  So no Chips Challenge for you.  Though that may be the case for 32 bit OS versions now too? 

[BigusSchmuck]

What are the pros/cons of upgrading from 32-bit to 64-bit (Sadler's link lets you choose between 32-bit/64-bit) ?? Has their emulation layer improved enough to maintain decent compatibility with 32-bit apps or are you gonna break too many to make it worth it ?

As far as I know, 32-bit apps work fine in 64-bit versions of Windows. Been like that for about a year or so. Used to hate 64-bit Windows when I had to setup Point of Sale PCS..

[Sadler]

If your processor is 64-bit, you should probably be running 64-bit. There's almost no reason not to and lots of good reasons to do so. XP64 was a bit shaky, but since Vista 64-bit Windows seems to be pretty damn solid.

[ClodBuster]

My old computer had Win XP Professional 32 bit, my current machine runs Win 7 Professional 64 bit. As it has 6 GB of RAM, the 64 bits are needed to address them anyway.

The majority of applications run perfectly fine, be it 32 bit or 64 bit programs. Just don't expect to run DOS games without relying on DOS box emulation. Also make sure that your machine has all the drivers available for the OS and its bitcount. Also peripherals can be bitchy about the OS version they run on, especially printers and scanners don't get longtime support by their manufacturers.

So if you've got a laptop computer or any exotic peripheral, doublecheck driver support before upgrading your OS.

For old games from the DOS to early Win XP era, don't throw away your old dusty big tower PC. Keep it.

[NightWolve]

Hm, sounds good, I'm trying, but looks like I gotta make my tablets boot off the microSD card. The setup exe is 64-bit and can't execute from the default 32-bit 8.1 install and the Win10 app made no mention if it was gonna keep 32-bit form or let me upgrade. All my CPUs have been 64-bit, even my 2008 PC tower, but they all came with 32-bit versions of Windows.

Learned the hard way when I bought two 2GB RAM sticks to make my tower go from 3GB to 4GB system memory, but that it didn't matter cause 32-bit Vista couldn't make use past 3GB so I had bought the sticks for nothing... Told a friend about it, and he realized his 4GB total wasn't doing anything for his 32-bit XP, so right then and there he upgraded to 64-bit and after looking at Task Manager could see that the full 4GB was being reported as available. Heh.

Alright, I gotta see how to boot off a microSD card or USB memory stick with my tablets.

[BigusSchmuck]

Hm, sounds good, I'm trying, but looks like I gotta make my tablets boot off the microSD card. The setup exe is 64-bit and can't execute from the default 32-bit 8.1 install and the Win10 app made no mention if it was gonna keep 32-bit form or let me upgrade. All my CPUs have been 64-bit, even my 2008 PC tower, but they all came with 32-bit versions of Windows.

Learned the hard way when I bought two 2GB RAM sticks to make my tower go from 3GB to 4GB system memory, but that it didn't matter cause 32-bit Vista couldn't make use past 3GB so I had bought the sticks for nothing... Told a friend about it, and he realized his 4GB total wasn't doing anything for his 32-bit XP, so right then and there he upgraded to 64-bit and after looking at Task Manager could see that the full 4GB was being reported as available. Heh.

Alright, I gotta see how to boot off a microSD card or USB memory stick with my tablets.

This might help:
http://www.redmondpie.com/how-to-create-bootable-windows-10-usb-flash-drive-guide/