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SephirothTNH

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Re: Windows 10
« Reply #60 on: August 15, 2015, 01:27:30 PM »
For some reason my laptop popped up saying it was ready to install win 10 last night.  I wasn't planning on doing it and had only signed up for the upgrade on my old desktop.  My Desktop still says it's waiting and I wanted to try it out so I figured what the hell.

Bottom Line up Front:  I like it.  It's definitely an upgrade from 8/8.1 IMO.  Everything about it feels better.  It's still to early to tell if I like it more than 7 but I at least like it as much as 7. 

This laptop is ancient so like I said I wasn't planning on upgrading it.  It's an Acer Extensa 4620z.  Intel 965 chipset so dick all for graphics and originally 2gb ram and a Pentium dual core 1.4ghz.  Needless to say it was crap.  But I upgraded some things.  Swapped out the processor for a 2.4ghz core 2 duo and upped the ram to 4 GB about a year ago.  Also Installed windows 7 and it turned into a pretty nice laptop.

The only problem I experienced with the upgrade was with windows chosen WDDM version of the GMA 965 driver.   There where no glaring problems after the upgrade and it wasn't until I went to play ppsspp on it that I discovered the problem.  All of a sudden it didn't work anymore.  It kept telling me my opengl version(1.1.0) wasn't high enough.  I looked online and the GMA965 supports opengle 1.5. And it worked before the upgrade. So I went to Intel's website and downloaded the latest Win 7 drivers and installed them.  Despite the warning that the already installed version was newer the older drivers restored my opengl performance. 

A minor problem I just noticed today is that Applocale no longer works in 10.  It hasn't been officially supported since Vista I think and it seems that now it is no longer an option.  I've moved on to some other program to make up for it.

Beyond that I'm completely happy with the upgrade.  And will be upgrading my main rig which I hadn't been planning on doing.

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Re: Windows 10
« Reply #61 on: August 19, 2015, 07:18:55 AM »
I'm still pissed it doesn't have RSTAT tools nor can I use virtual box to virtualize Windows 7/8.1 in case there are things I can't run on it yet. Once RSTAT and virtual box works with it, I'll jump ship.

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Re: Windows 10
« Reply #62 on: August 19, 2015, 07:19:35 AM »
I'm still pissed it doesn't have RSTAT tools nor can I use virtual box to virtualize Windows 7/8.1 in case there are things I can't run on it yet. Once RSTAT and virtual box works with it, I'll jump ship.


Dual boot with another version of Windows, worked fine for me.

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Re: Windows 10
« Reply #63 on: August 19, 2015, 07:39:55 AM »
I have a bit of performance issues to report on my WinBook 7" tablet which previously ran fine on 8.1.

* I've started to see outright crashes for the FIRST time on this tablet... All of a sudden it's literally stuck and I have to hold the power button down to shut it off and restart.

* VLC is my preferred video player as I found it always produced the best video quality of any movie, general video file, etc. It used to work perfectly fine on 8.1 playing 720p or 1080p MP4 video files. Now however, it's completely buggy and it appears to suffer from extreme lag. Video can get stuck, crap out in a pixelated mess, it just doesn't seem like the CPU is powerful enough to handle it... I tried raising the process priority, but that only helped mildly. It appears the native video player by Microsoft works fast enough though, but it's basic and lacking all the bells and whistles.

So yeah, VLC no longer works for me and I've started to see outright crashes for the first time on this tablet. There was a pretty big patch update with Windows Update, so hopefully it will perform better next time around, I'll have to see. I had these problems a bit before this update which happened yesterday. Another thing about said update, when it started off, the system just DID IT while I was playing a video and rebooted on me WITH NO NOTICE/WARNING WHATSOEVER...... If I remember correctly, this was a default behavior on Windows Vista and you had to change a flag in the registry, 'xxxxautoreboot' or something, to stop it...
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Re: Windows 10
« Reply #64 on: August 19, 2015, 07:50:54 AM »
I just did two laptops (for my parents).

They opted to upgrade to SSDs first as they have pretty decent laptops with 2.6ghz CPUs and 8GB Ram and wanted clean installs...holy shit.

I backed up their personal folders and favorites, then installed factory images on each.  Had to go through the entire Win7 flow just to retain the original OEM programs they got for free and drivers.  Then wait a couple a days until every last update was installed, then forced the Win10 install.  Like someone said, NOT for the faint of heart. It was a true exercise in patience.

ProTip - remember to go back and delete Windows.Old via disk cleanup.  You will regain about 20gb which is necessary on an SSD.
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Re: Windows 10
« Reply #65 on: August 19, 2015, 08:10:20 AM »
Yeah, the driver hunt was "fun" if you choose to repartition/format and do a clean install! Upgrading simply imports all that data and allows for a far smoother, problem-free experience.

http://www.driveridentifier.com/

As I mentioned, I found that website to be the most trustworthy for this process and you can use it for free if you log in with your googlepages account and click "not a commercial user" when needed.

I did learn some new things and because of that website, I also ran it on my Vista PC tower, and was surprised to find some new versions of drivers like for my PCI Express USB 3.0 card which I purchased about a year ago on the cheap so I could at least provide this old 2008 machine with some up modernizing and to complement the 2 TB external USB 3.0 backup drive I had purchased since it didn't have eSATA. But yeah, the Windows Update feature cannot fully help you with driver update/maintenance... I'm surprised at how lacking in power it is...

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Re: Windows 10
« Reply #66 on: August 19, 2015, 08:12:46 AM »
I'm still pissed it doesn't have RSTAT tools nor can I use virtual box to virtualize Windows 7/8.1 in case there are things I can't run on it yet. Once RSTAT and virtual box works with it, I'll jump ship.


Dual boot with another version of Windows, worked fine for me.

Well this is for my pc at work, I haven't even started my pcs at home yet. lol I will say it is pretty snappy for my I5-2500k with 8gb of ram and 256 ssd (took about a total of 2 minutes to install office 2013). I don't see my workplace jumping ship from Windows 7 anytime soon (hell we just finished upgrading/replacing 85 xp machines this year!) as everyone here is using their pcs as a dumb terminal to remote into RD land.

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Re: Windows 10
« Reply #67 on: August 19, 2015, 09:59:43 AM »
I'm still pissed it doesn't have RSTAT tools nor can I use virtual box to virtualize Windows 7/8.1 in case there are things I can't run on it yet. Once RSTAT and virtual box works with it, I'll jump ship.


Dual boot with another version of Windows, worked fine for me.

Well this is for my pc at work, I haven't even started my pcs at home yet. lol I will say it is pretty snappy for my I5-2500k with 8gb of ram and 256 ssd (took about a total of 2 minutes to install office 2013). I don't see my workplace jumping ship from Windows 7 anytime soon (hell we just finished upgrading/replacing 85 xp machines this year!) as everyone here is using their pcs as a dumb terminal to remote into RD land.

Ah okay, I ran a dual boot when the Windows 10 developer preview was out without any issues. I was hesitant but pleasantly surprised how well the OS runs on my aging rig (6 year old intel i7 920 w/ 6 gig ram and a 7200 rpm drive). I have been really happy with the upgrade to this point, especially the XBOX One integration and streaming feature

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Re: Windows 10
« Reply #68 on: August 26, 2015, 07:44:06 AM »
Been on 10 at home for about 2 weeks with no real issues...all my Hyper-V test stuff works like a charm without missing a beat...Adobe Creative Suite running fine as well. Haven't done a ton of hobby development recently though, so it's not like I'm exactly putting the machine through the paces.

I did have to fiddle with Nvidia drivers post-install though, but that just involved grabbing the latest WHQL drivers.

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Re: Windows 10
« Reply #69 on: August 26, 2015, 11:44:09 AM »
How do you get rid of the Win 10 Icon on my taskbar?

I'm fine with Windows 7 Home Premium


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Re: Windows 10
« Reply #70 on: August 26, 2015, 01:24:19 PM »
How do you get rid of the Win 10 Icon on my taskbar?

I'm fine with Windows 7 Home Premium



You need to uninstall the Windows Update that adds it.  Just google it.
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Re: Windows 10
« Reply #71 on: August 26, 2015, 04:19:59 PM »
Well if I did that, Windows might end up updating it with other updates for my PC

So forget what I said

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Re: Windows 10
« Reply #72 on: September 30, 2015, 08:13:22 PM »
Grrrrrrrr. So here's my latest Windows 10 fun: I can't get my 10" tablet's speakers to work properly, a 3.5mm headphone plug must be plugged in for them to activate, so when you pull your headphone cable out, the native speakers turn off; it essentially has reversed normal behavior in controlling the combo headphone/mic jack... Cannot fix this with neither old nor new drivers and I didn't have the problem before I did another clean install of Win 10 again... :/
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Re: Windows 10
« Reply #73 on: October 01, 2015, 12:42:49 AM »

Grrrrrrrr. So here's my latest Windows 10 fun: I can't get my 10" tablet's speakers to work properly, a 3.5mm headphone plug must be plugged in for them to activate, so when you pull your headphone cable out, the native speakers turn off; it essentially has reversed normal behavior in controlling the combo headphone/mic jack... Cannot fix this with neither old nor new drivers and I didn't have the problem before I did another clean install of Win 10 again... :/

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Re: Windows 10
« Reply #74 on: October 01, 2015, 05:48:53 AM »
Grrrrrrrr. So here's my latest Windows 10 fun: I can't get my 10" tablet's speakers to work properly, a 3.5mm headphone plug must be plugged in for them to activate, so when you pull your headphone cable out, the native speakers turn off; it essentially has reversed normal behavior in controlling the combo headphone/mic jack... Cannot fix this with neither old nor new drivers and I didn't have the problem before I did another clean install of Win 10 again... :/
Had a similar issue with my work pc and the headphone jack. It would max out the speakers if I unplugged them and had to turn it down. Also, usb connections would drop off unless I turned off the stupid power settings in the usb hub in device management.. Overall, I still like it better than 8.1 due to the rstat tools and native hyper v capability.