Ebay Caution: scam/repro seller "thewarriorsedgegaming"

[nullity]

Let me start by saying that this is not a personal attack. This seller may be completely oblivious to the fact that some of his wares are repro, but if you see an auction for a rare TG16 title from this seller you should be aware that there is a history of inauthentic items being sold from this seller.

I always like to give the benefit of a doubt, but in this case I once received an admission of "it is a repro" followed by -no- update of the ebay listing to indicate shit was fake. That is hard to excuse.

Please be aware that this is not directed at madboom, who has on occasion put forth effort to hook up deals for pcefx users with this seller outside of ebay. I just want to raise awareness of this situation so that nobody else ends up with repros passed off as authentic in their collection.

[ProfessorProfessorson]

Do you have some links or photos to submit for some kind of evidence. I was browsing his auctions and didn't see anything.

[esteban]

Do you have some links or photos to submit for some kind of evidence. I was browsing his auctions and didn't see anything.

This has been a test of the Emergency Scammer Alert System

[madboom0522]

I am not sure at what point this seller ever listed his items as anything other than acceptable. Check his feedback and you will see many here have bought from him and been nothing but happy with their purchase. You should make sure that you have all the facts before you accuse someone of passing off (fakes) and being dishonest. He had clear pictures listed and did not try to hide anything. Not to mention the fact that he did not even sell this through e-bay. It was a private sale and the new seller had this and another game for almost two months before claiming that they were fake. Who would wait that long to raise such an issue? I suspect that you know who this buyer was and that is why you are raising this matter?  If I am going to buy something I would be sure to do my research and make sure I knew what I was getting. There were and are plenty of shadowgate games to compare to. I know this seller and he has done nothing but fair deals with people. If the person who wanted the game had a problem with it after he received numerous pics outside of e-bay before he bought then he should have said so.
   Does this mean that anytime someone sells a game with a case and label that did not come with one they should mention that in the sale? I am thinking that most do not.

[Lost Monkey]

madboom said:
I am not sure at what point this seller ever listed his items as anything other than acceptable. Check his feedback and you will see many here have bought from him and been nothing but happy with their purchase. You should make sure that you have all the facts before you accuse someone of passing off (fakes) and being dishonest. He had clear pictures listed and did not try to hide anything. Not to mention the fact that he did not even sell this through e-bay. It was a private sale and the new seller had this and another game for almost two months before claiming that they were fake. Who would wait that long to raise such an issue? If I am going to buy something I would be sure to do my research and make sure I knew what I was getting. There were and are plenty of shadowgate games to compare to. I know this seller and he has done nothing but fair deals with people. If the person who wanted the game had a problem with it after he received numerous pics outside of e-bay before he bought then he should have said so.
   Does this mean that anytime someone sells a game with a case and label that did not come with one they should mention that in the sale? I am thinking that most do not.

[ProfessorProfessorson]

I am simply overwhelmed by the lack of links or proof for, or against, said seller. Unless you guys plan to do either, take it to PM or something, or come back when you have evidence you plan to submit for, or against dingowarrioredgesumthingamingspectacular.

[ProfessorProfessorson]

Sit tight, profprof. We aren't each others' biggest fans, but we should be on the same side of this one.

WTF are you even talking about. What does that even mean. When you go to expose someone for scams, you provide f*cking proof on the first post, not the 15th one. Otherwise it reads off like cheap slander. I don't know this guy you are accusing. What I do know is that you are saying he is a scamming piece of shit. But you don't submit any evidence to support your case. No links. No pics. No nothing. I would be more then happy to support you in this matter once you convince me it is legit. Gather your evidence and come back and present it and make a good solid case.

[madboom0522]

The f*ck are you talking about, boom? The MM3 he/you tried to sell me was on ebay with a fake map. I will post the PM thread when I get time if I need to, along with the ended auction link.

But thanks for stepping up and providing confirmation that this is NOT an isolated incident. I wanted to think that you were not involved in the deception, but now that I see your post and see the ebay auction for bootleg beyond shadowgate, my gut tells me I was a fool for believing you were not complicit in the scamming.

Is the seller a homie or do you get commission? Honest question.

I am not sure why you are thinking that I am involved in any type of scam. I have not nor will I ever do so. I always try try to provide the information to the best of my knowledge. He may have had repro stuff and I never said he did not. I also know that he did not ever say that anything he had was original or repro when listing on e-bay. I have sent some of my stuff in the past to sell for me and he has done so. All of his auctions say to ask questions and make sure that this is what you want to buy. On top of it he offers a 14 day money back guarantee on everything he sells. If he was out to deceive people why would he offer that?  So I guess because I know him I must be in on a scam and that he is defrauding people on e-bay? I have not sold a single thing that was fake to anyone period. There are many on here that could vouch for that. I also do not receive (kick backs) from this seller. He has never done me or anyone from here dirty to the best of my knowledge. I know him from past business deals outside of e-bay and I already questioned him on the matter. This is how I know that the game in question was not sold on e-bay.

[ProfessorProfessorson]

Wait for it. I just learned that my attempted scam was not an isolated incident. You of all people should understand how single parenting can impact one's free time. I'm trying to get twin 5 year olds to sleep but didn't want to wait until I can get to my desktop to warn the community about a repro seller passing shit off as real.

There is evidence. Wait until after you see it to discount it.

It has nothing to do with being a single parent, or discounting or disbelieving your evidence. But you should not have even started this thread until you had your stuff gathered and ready to post. Remember, you have to make a good case. A good case is supported by evidence. You failed to do that, and no one should have to wait for it once you start a thread and toss out accusations. Its not fair to the community, nor the person you are accusing, which is in this case kinda sorta Madboom?, and some ebay guy.

They should be provided a chance to defend their-selves, but with no actual evidence provided to even defend against, it just ends up looking like slander, which we don't take kindly to around here. The accusations you are making are pretty serious. They can have a lasting affect on someones seller rep.

[esteban]

Sit tight, profprof. We aren't each others' biggest fans, but we should be on the same side of this one.

WTF are you even talking about. What does that even mean. When you go to expose someone for scams, you provide f*cking proof on the first post, not the 15th one. Otherwise it reads off like cheap slander. I don't know this guy you are accusing. What I do know is that you are saying he is a scamming piece of shit. But you don't submit any evidence to support your case. No links. No pics. No nothing. I would be more then happy to support you in this matter once you convince me it is legit. Gather your evidence and come back and present it and make a good solid case.

It is better to alert folks—err on the side of caution.

We are a small forum, and if someone leveled a charge of "scammer" against someone prematurely, well, it could always be rectified (with apologies around).

For example, the recent episode with BigusSchmuck... I don't think his reputation was marred for more than a day or two (if that).

Even I have found it in my heart to give Bigus another chance.   

If I suspected that someone here was shady, I don't know if I would wait for inconclusive proof (assuming that such proof could ever be obtained).





The preceding assumed that nullity's intensions were sincere and that he isn't a total imbecile (that is, that he has the mental calcify to gather legitimate, conclusive proof).

However, even if nullity is simply slandering someone (which is a shame), it certainly  provides us with  some drama and entertainment.

So please allow us jaded, sadistic, apathetic, bored and conspiracy-obsessed rubber-neckers a chance to eat popcorn and watch the show.

[ProfessorProfessorson]

Sit tight, profprof. We aren't each others' biggest fans, but we should be on the same side of this one.

WTF are you even talking about. What does that even mean. When you go to expose someone for scams, you provide f*cking proof on the first post, not the 15th one. Otherwise it reads off like cheap slander. I don't know this guy you are accusing. What I do know is that you are saying he is a scamming piece of shit. But you don't submit any evidence to support your case. No links. No pics. No nothing. I would be more then happy to support you in this matter once you convince me it is legit. Gather your evidence and come back and present it and make a good solid case.

It is better to alert folks—err on the side of caution.

We are a small forum, and if someone leveled a charge of "scammer" against someone prematurely, well, it could always be rectified (with apologies around).

For example, the recent episode with BigusSchmuck... I don't think his reputation was marred for more than a day or two (if that).

Even I have found it in my heart to give Bigus another chance.   

If I suspected that someone here was shady, I don't know if I would wait for inconclusive proof (assuming that such proof could ever be obtained).





The preceding assumed that nullity's intensions were sincere and that he isn't a total imbecile (that is, that he has the mental calcify to gather legitimate, conclusive proof).

However, even if nullity is simply slandering someone (which is a shame), it certainly  provides us with  some drama and entertainment.

So please allow us jaded, sadistic, apathetic, bored and conspiracy-obsessed rubber-neckers a chance to eat popcorn and watch the show.

No.

[esteban]

P.S. I am starting trouble with you, Professor.

[ProfessorProfessorson]

P.S. I am starting trouble with you, Professor.

No. And this thread does not entertain, not one bit.

[VenomMacbeth]

I am both entertained and informed. 

[ProfessorProfessorson]

I don't sling shit lightly. Here... it isn't on a silver platter yet, but this auction was sold to someone else as authentic.

You shouldn't sling this kind of shit at all without proof attached. Do you need Nanto to log in and tell you this or something?

Again... I know you don't like me, but....

WTF is this? You are saying a lot of stupid shit this evening associating me with whatever personal feelings you seem to have for me. Stop with the psychological projection bullshit already. Whatever you are feeling, it is not mutual. I don't know you enough to dislike you, f*ck, I dont even know anything about you other then you are some DoxPhile guy that is not a total f*cktard like DK or James, but it seems like you are hell bent on making it happen this evening by going full retard.

but I've done a f*ckload more for this community than some unkown ebay repro reseller... are you f*cking kidding me? I'm slandering some innocent soul and "this community" doesn't take kindly to it?  Give me a break, shit...

Slander like accusing someone of fraud is a big deal. Provide solid proof when you make those accusations. If the guy was passing off boots as legit in a auction, post links to said auction. Get us pics. Get us a hell of a lot more then screen grabs of Madboom saying "oh hey its a boot and my seller pal confirms that, so be aware of that before you buy it so you know what you are getting".

AND NO! I WILL NOT ANSWER MY VOICEMAIL... if you have something to say and I don't answer, f*cking text or email me. Shit....

I don't have your phone number. I dont even know who the f*ck you are, personal info, etc. WTF are you even talking about. Why would I f*cking call you, and how could I without said info?