Alright, here are the e-mails. Most recent at the top. He stopped responding after my last e-mail unfortunately. As you can see, I paid $525 for BS and MMIII...I definitely wouldn't have paid that for 2 games that contained repro inserts.
I'll draw your attention to where he claims he didn't know they were fake in his last e-mail to me, and suggested that he couldn't offer a refund because he would have no way of knowing that I didn't put the fake inserts in there myself.
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Hi Allen,
Thanks for the reply, I do agree that the deal was decent, but I never once thought the items were not original. It's an honest mistake on both our parts. When I got the game, everything looked fine. It was until I inspected it further that I realized something was fishy. It's not all fake. It's the poster and back insert only. I can see how this slipped past you and myself as well, but comparing them to official copies of the game left me with a huge pit in my stomach, because despite getting a decent deal, I never would have bought shadowgate if I knew it was not authentic.
Might and Magic seems fine with the exception of the map, but I don't have another copy to compare it to.
Beyond Shadowgate is the more coveted game of the two I bought, so I'm not sure what the next steps are. I mean, I can send you shadowgate back if you like. I can't sell it myself because I know it's not all complete. Which means did have to sell it as case, cd and manual only which would won't likely be worth the effort. I'd still be the one losing out here.
I agree that I did say I was happy with the items, but I honestly didn't inspect them as I should have.
TRF
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From: None None <thewarriorsedgegaming>
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 2:04:14 PM
To: TRF
Subject: Re: Beyond Shadowgate and Might and Magic III
Hi T,
I was not aware that the inserts or the backing were not real. I get games in lots and only test them for functionality. You did see the photos on Ebay and chose to go outside Ebay for the sale. It has been 2+ months since we have made the deal so I am unsure as to what you would like me to to do? I do not do dirty business as you can see from my feedback. I do not check every little detail for originality as I would not have the time and that's why I list everything as acceptable. With that being said waiting 2 months to contact me on it makes it tough on me to determine that things were the same as when I sold them, not saying you did anything but this is why I do not like to go outside Ebay. I also contacted you shortly after the sale and you were more than happy about what you had received. You also got it for much less than I was asking to begin with and much less than copies that were not complete what so ever. Again I was not aware of the validity of the paper work. I look over prices on Ebay and list mine for a fair price that is most times lower than anyone else.
-Allen
On Tuesday, June 2, 2015 11:32 AM, "TRF" <> wrote:
Hi Allen,
Just contacting you again, have you had a chance to review my last e-mail?
Tarick
On Friday, May 29, 2015 9:57 AM, "TRF" < > wrote:
Allen, I am writing you in regards to my purchase of Beyond Shadowgate and Might and Magic III. I’m a bit torn about this, because I’ve just discovered that not everything in at least the Beyond Shadowgate game is legitimate. The poster is a reprint and not the official one released with the game. I don’t know if you know this or not, but I have since done more research and even see another copy of the game to compare and the one you sent me definitely isn’t legit. I also suspect that the back insert is also not legit unfortunately. I am going to check on Might and Magic III as well. As far as I can tell, the manual and CDs are fine, it’s the packaging.
TRF
From: None None [mailto:thewarriorsedgegaming24]
Sent: April 22, 2015 6:57 AM
To: TRF
Subject: Re: Beyond Shadowgate and Might and Magic III
Awesome, glad to hear you got them ok.
On Wednesday, April 8, 2015 3:11 PM, "TRF" < > wrote:
Hey there! Just a heads-up that the games arrived yesterday and I am very happy with them. Thank you very much!
From: None None [mailto:thewarriorsedgegaming24]
Sent: April 04, 2015 3:42 PM
To: TRF
Subject: Re: Beyond Shadowgate and Might and Magic III
Just checking in T.
Have you received the games yet?
On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 7:00 PM, "TRF" < > wrote:
As far as Turbografx goes, I’m pretty much right where I want to be. The only real missing pieces are the games I had mention earlier. Cotton, Super Air Zonk, Bonk’s 3 and Magical Chase (US). I do have a JP copy of Magical Chase, so that will be a good place holder until I find the US release. I have the rest of the Hu Cards that were decent on the Turbografx, and the CDs as well. Oh, Bomberman is one of the hu cards I wouldn’t mind picking up. I do have Bomberman ’94, but not the original Bomberman. I see that you have a copy of it, but it’s sealed.
Here is a link to my collection:
http://gametz.com/?user=Miracle_Warrior&tab=Games&Desire=available&Next=all From: None None [mailto:thewarriorsedgegaming24]
Sent: March 25, 2015 4:52 PM
To: TRF
Subject: Re: Beyond Shadowgate and Might and Magic III
How far along on your collection are you?
On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 6:43 PM, "TRF" < > wrote:
Thank you very much Allen! Really excited.
From: None None [mailto:thewarriorsedgegaming24]
Sent: March 25, 2015 4:33 PM
To: TRF
Subject: Re: Beyond Shadowgate and Might and Magic III
Ok it did not give me the option for tracking number but this is the label number and it said it has delivery confirmation.
Thanks again, I hope you enjoy them!!!
On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 5:41 PM, None None <thewarriorsedgegaming24> wrote:
yeah, comes with all the goodies too.
On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 5:23 PM, "TRF" <> wrote:
Oh, I see the pictures on your Ebay page. Really cool man.
From: None None [mailto:thewarriorsedgegaming24]
Sent: March 25, 2015 3:18 PM
To: TRF
Subject: Re: Beyond Shadowgate and Might and Magic III
If you do it as a gift I can go 525. Otherwise the 550 covers ship and paypal fees. I am not making much on these games, nor is that my intention. I am into them for a bunch and I am looking to try and at least break even :-) If you are worried about gifting I understand but know I am not here to try and burn people, I would rather you come back and buy more :-) My Ebay feedback says a lot.
On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 5:03 PM, "TRF" <> wrote:
We’re so close. I was going to offer $500 shipped for the pair.
From: None None [mailto:thewarriorsedgegaming24]
Sent: March 25, 2015 3:01 PM
To: TRF
Subject: Re: Beyond Shadowgate and Might and Magic III
I do have a PCE with cd in box. some PCE games (commons) Sega and the like I am currently collecting myself.
Anyhow on to the task at hand. I know how to ship to Canada fairly cheap by using first class mail. If you want the 2 games I can do it for 550 shipped through paypal. First class takes a bit but it avoids the customs hold up so all in all faster than normal. If you are going to take them I will ship them out first thing in the morning for you.
On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 4:49 PM, "TRF" < > wrote:
Nothing in particular, just thought it’d be nice to see what you’ve got. I collect mainly for the Turbografx/PC Engine, Sega Master System, Genesis, Sega CD, Saturn and Dreamcast.
From: None None [mailto:thewarriorsedgegaming24]
Sent: March 25, 2015 2:37 PM
To: TRF
Subject: Re: Beyond Shadowgate and Might and Magic III
Was there something you were looking for?
On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 4:19 PM, None None <thewarriorsedgegaming24> wrote:
No I do not :-(
On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 3:54 PM, "TRF" < > wrote:
That’s too bad. Do you have a website or something with your inventory?
From: None None [mailto:thewarriorsedgegaming24]
Sent: March 25, 2015 1:00 PM
To: TRF
Subject: Re: Beyond Shadowgate and Might and Magic III
Wow you just missed me lol I had most of them at the start of this month.
On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 2:58 PM, "TRF" < > wrote:
Works for me. Aside from the games you’ve got listed, I am also looking for Cotton, Super Air Zonk and Bonk’s 3 (CD). Of course, Magical Chase is another game that continues to elude me, but I don’t suppose you’ve got that kicking around.
TRF
From: None None [mailto:thewarriorsedgegaming24]
Sent: March 25, 2015 12:57 PM
To: TRF
Subject: Re: Beyond Shadowgate and Might and Magic III
I do often get new stuff soI can keep an eye out if your looking for a boxed one.
On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 2:53 PM, "TRF" < > wrote:
No worries man, it was worth a shot.
From: None None [mailto:thewarriorsedgegaming24]
Sent: March 25, 2015 12:48 PM
To: TRF
Subject: Re: Beyond Shadowgate and Might and Magic III
No, unfortunately not, I sold my boxed one last month.
On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 2:46 PM, "TRF" < > wrote:
Is the duo boxed?
From: None None [mailto:thewarriorsedgegaming24]
Sent: March 25, 2015 12:46 PM
To: TRF
Subject: Re: Beyond Shadowgate and Might and Magic III
Almost forgot. I have a region modded Duo also.
On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 2:44 PM, None None <thewarriorsedgegaming24> wrote:
I have a ton of it.I am also getting in 25 more games this week and another system. I currently have 3 core systems loose, one almost brand new boxed system, a region modded cd system, controllers, taps, sticks you name it :-)
On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 2:40 PM, "TRF" <> wrote:
Awesome, glad I guessed right . Yes, I am interested in both games. Do you have any other turbografx stuff?
From: None None [mailto:thewarriorsedgegaming24]
Sent: March 25, 2015 12:40 PM
To: TRF
Subject: Re: Beyond Shadowgate and Might and Magic III
Yes, I had to use yehaw lol Ebay will not allow for any mails with yahoo or any other known .com
So you are interested in both games if I read right?
On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 11:45 AM, "" < > wrote:
Hey there, thanks for getting back to me on Ebay. I was inquiring about these two games. Hope this email reaches you, as I’ve never heard of the Yehaw domain, so I thought perhaps you were trying to say Yahoo, so I’ve included both.
TRF