What game would YOU have packed in with the Turbo?

[lukester]

Rastan was on the master system, and got a Taito developed version on the msx as well.

[neopolss]

Yup yup, totally forgot that.  Seems like it should have seen a few more systems.

[esteban]

NOTE: there was another thread recently about this topic.

(1) In the other thread, Blazing Lazers came up a few times as a good pack-in because the difficulty ramps up nicely and the music/graphics really do look "ARCADE QUALITY". Personally, this was the game that convinced me to get TG-16.

(2) Rastan was very popular and in every arcade and lots of smaller venues (ice rink, roller rink, pizza parlors, bowling alleys, etc.) here in NJ/NYC back in the day.

[johnnykonami]

I played Rastan at a campground I went to as a kid. (in MD)  That first stage music is seared into my brain forever, it's that great.  The 1st sequel is really disappointing, though.  Part 3 is pretty cool but feels completely different than part 1 as it's just a Golden Axe copy at that point. 

[BigusSchmuck]

Call me crazy, but I think Aliens Crush would have been a nice pack in. Why? Well it's got Aliens in it! Now as far as the Duo launch, I would have bundled it with a 6 button controller and put Street Fighter 2 along with Dracula X but considering we didn't get those (and they came out mid 93) here what was included was more than enough IMHO.

[esteban]

Call me crazy, but I think Aliens Crush would have been a nice pack in. Why? Well it's got Aliens in it! Now as far as the Duo launch, I would have bundled it with a 6 button controller and put Street Fighter 2 along with Dracula X but considering we didn't get those (and they came out mid 93) here what was included was more than enough IMHO.

Alien Crush is awesome. I just think pinball, even with awesome music + Aliens, was too niche for average kid.

Appealing to a wide audience is tough.

[schweaty]

Ninja Spirit.  it's a near-perfect arcade port.  it would have really demonstrated the capability of the system at a time when graphics and system specs really mattered to consumers.  this was a marketing tactic used with the original genesis pack-in, altered beast.  it was far from a good port, but it had great graphics for its time and sold a lot of systems early on in the genesis life-cycle which was what it needed to gain a foothold in the us. 

Ninja Spirit is a game from years into the future. Wouldn't SFII' have been a much better pack-in?

Well, I thought this was a hypothetical exercise (ideal world, etc..).  I tend to believe system exclusives should be the pack-in, but SFII would have sold a lot of consoles had it been the pack-in for the Duo.

[Necromancer]

Keith Courage isn't that bad of a pack-in choice, but JJ & Jeff or Son Son II would've been better. 

[Jibbajaba]

Of the games available at launch, The Legendary Axe would have been the best choice as a pack-in.

[Black Tiger]

Call me crazy, but I think Aliens Crush would have been a nice pack in. Why? Well it's got Aliens in it! Now as far as the Duo launch, I would have bundled it with a 6 button controller and put Street Fighter 2 along with Dracula X but considering we didn't get those (and they came out mid 93) here what was included was more than enough IMHO.

This is part of why I think that R-Type would have been best at convincing people to buy the system. The film Aliens was still fresh in people's minds and a hot video rental. People too young to remember likely don't realize the impact the film had. R-Type had the coolest alien designs, eerie yet heavy and motivational music (backed by good use of the sound chip) , faithful visuals and gameplay of a popular arcade and was more appealing to older players.

Looking at what made the Genesis stand out at the time, something more like R-Type and less like something aimed at younger children was what was needed. Of course, the marketing was most important. The TG-16 should have had side-by-side arcade footage comparisons like the Genesis used in commercials. Being able to show R-Type looking much more like the arcade than Genesis' arcade ports and having the voice over exclaim how it comes packed in with every TG-16 system would have been very effective.

[Jibbajaba]

I could definitely see R-Type as the pack-in game, as well.  The point of a pack-in game (to me) is to show off the capabilities of the system, to be an attractant to motivate people to purchase the system, and to give the consumer something that reinforces their purchasing decision once they get home.  R-Type fills those needs while KC fails on all three, in my opinion.

[Black Tiger]

I wonder if they tried running the game at 256 pixel-wide resolution.

I also wonder if millions of copies of early SNES games were returned because they didn't run at normal or consistent speeds.

[esteban]

I wonder if they tried running the game at 256 pixel-wide resolution.

I also wonder if millions of copies of early SNES games were returned because they didn't run at normal or consistent speeds.

I hear you.

I actually like Gradius III on SNES, but that game was soooooo sloooow at times that I honestly wondered if it was about to eject itself from my SNES!

How many returns did Gradius III have?

[Black Tiger]

I wonder if they tried running the game at 256 pixel-wide resolution.

I also wonder if millions of copies of early SNES games were returned because they didn't run at normal or consistent speeds.

I hear you.

I actually like Gradius III on SNES, but that game was soooooo sloooow at times that I honestly wondered if it was about to eject itself from my SNES!

How many returns did Gradius III have?

Instead of returns, the SNES only spawned the first generation of Nintendo zealots like A Black Falcon, who reverse engineer reality to claim that Super Gradius III is the best and definitive version and that when slowdown happens frequently enough, it becomes the new standard and is in fact creating new and superior gameplay experiences. I really wish that was sarcasm and not literally a sampling of ABF's cross-forum preaching over the years.

If the SMS had been about as successful as the NES in North America, we would have had these guys a generation earlier. But the SNES not only being the first Nintendo console with real competition, but coming in late to the party and underperforming out of the gate, led to the first generation of console fanboys since perhaps the pre-8-bit generation. The Nintendo 64 following right after under similar circumstances but lacking the quality library of the previous Nintendo consoles, only hardened their resolve.

It's unfortunate, because I find that most blind fanboys don't really appreciate the SNES library and spend most of their time defending its lackluster games or praising the typical top game list entries, instead of discovering all the great games that receive little fanfare, which they are completely oblivious to.

[VenomMacbeth]

I wonder if they tried running the game at 256 pixel-wide resolution.

I also wonder if millions of copies of early SNES games were returned because they didn't run at normal or consistent speeds.

I hear you.

I actually like Gradius III on SNES, but that game was soooooo sloooow at times that I honestly wondered if it was about to eject itself from my SNES!

How many returns did Gradius III have?

Instead of returns, the SNES only spawned the first generation of Nintendo zealots like A Black Falcon, who reverse engineer reality to claim that Super Gradius III is the best and definitive version and that when slowdown happens frequently enough, it becomes the new standard and is in fact creating new and superior gameplay experiences. I really wish that was sarcasm and not literally a sampling of ABF's cross-forum preaching over the years.

If the SMS had been about as successful as the NES in North America, we would have had these guys a generation earlier. But the SNES not only being the first Nintendo console with real competition, but coming in late to the party and underperforming out of the gate, led to the first generation of console fanboys since perhaps the pre-8-bit generation. The Nintendo 64 following right after under similar circumstances but lacking the quality library of the previous Nintendo consoles, only hardened their resolve.

It's unfortunate, because I find that most blind fanboys don't really appreciate the SNES library and spend most of their time defending its lackluster games or praising the typical top game list entries, instead of discovering all the great games that receive little fanfare, which they are completely oblivious to.

It's amazing how true this is, especially the last part.  My best friend would fawn endlessly over LttP, Secret of Mana, and Crono Trigger, but didn't bat an eye at Brain Lord, Alcahest, or even Terranigma.   I'll never understand the closed-mindedness of gamers.