CD-R brands and my SCD system

[HailingTheThings]

650mb/74min. CD-Rs are the way to go. Remember that these games are from the 90s and 700mb/80min. CDs weren't really a thing yet. I believe there were CD-Rs used by developers that were lower capacity than 74min. but I'm not 100% Pretty sure 74min. CD-Rs are close enough to those original capacity discs to not cause problems, though-though-though.

Found this image. 71min CD-R. Yay.



I thought I remembered seeing a Turbo Madden developer CD-R that had a lower capacity as well somewhere a while back, but perhaps my mind is playing tricks on me.

[Keith Courage]

Regular green bottom Sony or TDK CDRs for sure.  I've never noticed any benefit whatsoever using gold or silver bottom discs. Don't waist your money.

[SamIAm]

From what I have read, the silver/gold discs are expensive not because of their readability, but because of their data retention. If you were going to back up something really important on CD, you would probably want to use one of them. Supposedly, they can last longer than ordinarily manufactured pressed CDs.

On the other hand, if you google the topic, lots of people talk about their old audio CD players being able to read 650MB CDs and not 700MB CDs. Lots of people also talk about experiencing trouble with the later tracks on a 700MB CD. It's enough that I'm probably going to give some 650MB Taiyo Yudens a shot soon.

[elmer]

On the other hand, if you google the topic, lots of people talk about their old audio CD players being able to read 650MB CDs and not 700MB CDs. Lots of people also talk about experiencing trouble with the later tracks on a 700MB CD. It's enough that I'm probably going to give some 650MB Taiyo Yudens a shot soon.

Oooohh ... if you find a good source of classic 650MB Taiyo Yudens, I'd love to know. They were always the "gold standard" back-in-the-day.

I thought that they'd stopped manufacturing them ... I got a couple hundred about 5? years ago when I heard that they weren't going to be available anymore. Perhaps that was just the "for-export"

[Lost Monkey]

I found some gold 650MB CD-rs at a thrift.. for the most part they don't really work any better with my TGCD setup than 700MB Taiyo Yudens, which basically means, hardly at all...

Super CD games almost universally don't work on mine, regular CD-Roms work about 80%...

[Keith Courage]

Super CD games almost universally don't work on mine, regular CD-Roms work about 80%...

80% for real CDs? Sounds like someone needs to make some potentiometer adjustments.

[Lost Monkey]

Super CD games almost universally don't work on mine, regular CD-Roms work about 80%...

80% for real CDs? Sounds like someone needs to make some potentiometer adjustments.

No, no...

I meant that CD-r's of "CD-rom" games seem to work, but not CD-r's of Super CDroms. 

All pressed CDs work fine. 

[Keith Courage]

Oh okay, I misunderstood.  You may be able to tweak a pot or two to get it reading those CDRs but unfortunately not all CD drives are created equal.

[Black Tiger]

I ordered some 650MB Taiyo Yudens. Hopefully I'll finally be able to play the fully translated Ys IV without the redbook bgms cutting out.

[grolt]

I ordered some 650MB Taiyo Yudens. Hopefully I'll finally be able to play the fully translated Ys IV without the redbook bgms cutting out.

That's my goal, too.  Were your load times between voiceovers also a problem on your current setup?

[SamIAm]

On the other hand, if you google the topic, lots of people talk about their old audio CD players being able to read 650MB CDs and not 700MB CDs. Lots of people also talk about experiencing trouble with the later tracks on a 700MB CD. It's enough that I'm probably going to give some 650MB Taiyo Yudens a shot soon.

Oooohh ... if you find a good source of classic 650MB Taiyo Yudens, I'd love to know. They were always the "gold standard" back-in-the-day.

I thought that they'd stopped manufacturing them ... I got a couple hundred about 5? years ago when I heard that they weren't going to be available anymore. Perhaps that was just the "for-export"

http://www.amazon.co.jp/CD-R%E3%83%87%E3%83%BC%E3%82%BF%E7%94%A8-32%E5%80%8D%E9%80%9F650MB-%E3%83%97%E3%83%AA%E3%83%B3%E3%82%BF%E3%83%96%E3%83%AB-%E3%82%B9%E3%83%94%E3%83%B3%E3%83%89%E3%83%AB%E3%82%B1%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B950%E6%9E%9A%E5%85%A5-CDR74WPYSBN/dp/B000AD7NXY

http://kakaku.com/searchitem/S0000051977/

Hmm. They cost about twice as much as the 700s. I guess it's worth a shot, though.

[xelement5x]

650mb/74min. CD-Rs are the way to go. Remember that these games are from the 90s and 700mb/80min. CDs weren't really a thing yet. I believe there were CD-Rs used by developers that were lower capacity than 74min. but I'm not 100% Pretty sure 74min. CD-Rs are close enough to those original capacity discs to not cause problems, though-though-though.

Found this image. 71min CD-R. Yay.



I thought I remembered seeing a Turbo Madden developer CD-R that had a lower capacity as well somewhere a while back, but perhaps my mind is playing tricks on me.

The Mega-CDR I have is 74 minutes, I've never seen smaller lengths but I'd believe they exist.  I have crap luck finding 650MB discs anymore, there was a cake box of 700MB ones at the thrift for $6 though

[elmer]

http://www.amazon.co.jp/CD-R%E3%83%87%E3%83%BC%E3%82%BF%E7%94%A8-32%E5%80%8D%E9%80%9F650MB-%E3%83%97%E3%83%AA%E3%83%B3%E3%82%BF%E3%83%96%E3%83%AB-%E3%82%B9%E3%83%94%E3%83%B3%E3%83%89%E3%83%AB%E3%82%B1%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B950%E6%9E%9A%E5%85%A5-CDR74WPYSBN/dp/B000AD7NXY

http://kakaku.com/searchitem/S0000051977/

Hmm. They cost about twice as much as the 700s. I guess it's worth a shot, though.

Wow ... classic old "32x" maximum recording speed ... those might really be the same "top-quality" green-bottom cyanine discs!

AFAIK, those 650MB versions haven't been available in the USA for years now. Good to see that they're still available, at least for a little while longer ...

On June 11th 2015, Taiyo Yuden announced that they will withdraw from the recording media business, including CDs, DVDs, BDs, at the end of 2015.

Thankfully there's still a little time left to stock up!

[Black Tiger]

I ordered some 650MB Taiyo Yudens. Hopefully I'll finally be able to play the fully translated Ys IV without the redbook bgms cutting out.

That's my goal, too.  Were your load times between voiceovers also a problem on your current setup?

I've had many setups over the years with various issues playing modern cdrs. I don't waste discs anymore trying to get them to run properly on any one setup. All of my cdr use for years now has been testing beta versions of new games and it would be nice to have a version of Lucretia with the music intact.

[Punch]

Makes sense that 72 min is easier to read than 80 min (because of the data spiral being more tightly packed in the disc) but I still think that the dye and manufacturer has more importance in the ease of read for the Duo.

I think I'm going to buy those 100 packs of Taiyo Yudens 80min and see how it goes. There are some overprints for half the price in amazon... hmmm