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Punch

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Re: CD-R brands and my SCD system
« Reply #45 on: September 16, 2015, 10:55:28 AM »
This is pretty insightful stuff but I am confused on the dye part. Is there a consensus on which dye is best?


CMC Magnetics is bad, that's the part everyone agrees on.

Guys, I think I found the perfect media for teh PCE: 650mb Mitsui Toatsu Silver CDR:

http://www.mam-a-store.com/sithapforcoi.html

Not as crazy expensive as their gold line but still great according to some light internet research. Need to test those with my duo.

Keith Courage

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« Reply #46 on: September 16, 2015, 04:30:25 PM »
Just use regular 700mb sony or TDK CDrs from the store. They work just as good as expensive CDs. Stop wasting your money on 650mb, Gold,  or Silver botton discs. Also, no need to burn at 4X. 8X is perfectly fine.

If a 700mb Sony CDR disc will not work in your system then chances are nothing will.

Then again, maybe some of your issues are due to what type of media your CD burners like. I've have found that not all CD burners with the same brand of CDR are created equal.

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« Reply #47 on: September 16, 2015, 04:42:35 PM »
It's very frustrating to deal with all the variables, I know, but have faith. Sooner or later, you'll probably nail down a particular factor or two that makes all the difference.

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« Reply #48 on: September 16, 2015, 05:21:18 PM »
I'll end up programming a stress test PCE .iso and do some scientifics, everyone believes in something different.

Punch

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« Reply #49 on: October 05, 2015, 01:00:53 PM »
I'm still trying to figure out some functions of the system card with the SCD 3.0 disasm available on the HuC website, but maybe writing a test program in C would be easier?

650mb/74min. CD-Rs are the way to go. Remember that these games are from the 90s and 700mb/80min. CDs weren't really a thing yet. I believe there were CD-Rs used by developers that were lower capacity than 74min. but I'm not 100% Pretty sure 74min. CD-Rs are close enough to those original capacity discs to not cause problems, though-though-though.


Found this image. 71min CD-R. Yay.



I thought I remembered seeing a Turbo Madden developer CD-R that had a lower capacity as well somewhere a while back, but perhaps my mind is playing tricks on me.




Here's an even lower capacity disc. That one's manufactured by TDK actually.

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« Reply #50 on: October 05, 2015, 01:04:32 PM »
I'll double post just because of that huge CDR image in my previous post, sorry.

I think I've found some good discs:

http://www.mam-a-store.com/sithapforcoi.html

Mitsui USA, 650 MB Silver dye CD-R. $31 for 100 discs. I'm just hoping it's not just some rebranded crap with the MAM-A logo on top of it, just bought it, couldn't resist. I'll report back when it arrives.

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Re: CD-R brands and my SCD system
« Reply #51 on: October 05, 2015, 05:23:38 PM »
Ho ho! Them be it, 63min CDRs, wish they still made 'em. Well, then again, I guess they're aren't necessary, but whatevs. Just think it'd be cool to have CDRs that are the same capacity as early CD games and such.

Also, MAM-A are legit from what I've used. Haven't had any issues.

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« Reply #52 on: October 06, 2015, 01:29:57 AM »
I'll double post just because of that huge CDR image in my previous post, sorry.

I think I've found some good discs:

http://www.mam-a-store.com/sithapforcoi.html

Mitsui USA, 650 MB Silver dye CD-R. $31 for 100 discs. I'm just hoping it's not just some rebranded crap with the MAM-A logo on top of it, just bought it, couldn't resist. I'll report back when it arrives.


I saw those, but shipping killed it for me - more for shipping than for the spindle... (Canada...)

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« Reply #53 on: October 06, 2015, 01:29:43 PM »
I'll double post just because of that huge CDR image in my previous post, sorry.

I think I've found some good discs:

http://www.mam-a-store.com/sithapforcoi.html

Mitsui USA, 650 MB Silver dye CD-R. $31 for 100 discs. I'm just hoping it's not just some rebranded crap with the MAM-A logo on top of it, just bought it, couldn't resist. I'll report back when it arrives.


I want to order these for creating my library of Duo and FekaCD games, but am holding out for your review sir Punch

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Re: CD-R brands and my SCD system
« Reply #54 on: October 07, 2015, 04:18:53 AM »
I'll double post just because of that huge CDR image in my previous post, sorry.

I think I've found some good discs:

http://www.mam-a-store.com/sithapforcoi.html

Mitsui USA, 650 MB Silver dye CD-R. $31 for 100 discs. I'm just hoping it's not just some rebranded crap with the MAM-A logo on top of it, just bought it, couldn't resist. I'll report back when it arrives.


I want to order these for creating my library of Duo and FekaCD games, but am holding out for your review sir Punch


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Re: CD-R brands and my SCD system
« Reply #55 on: October 07, 2015, 09:33:33 AM »
Order Status:   Will ship within 24 hours.

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« Reply #56 on: October 12, 2015, 03:05:52 AM »
Late reply, but +1 for Taiyo Yuden CD-Rs.

We used them for audio masters, back in the day. They actually have less read errors than pressed CDs.
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Re: CD-R brands and my SCD system
« Reply #57 on: October 13, 2015, 03:09:28 AM »
ATIP Information:
Disc ID: 97m27s58f
Manufacturer: Mitsui Chemicals Inc.
Start Time of LeadIn: 97m27s58f
Last Possible Start Time of LeadOut: 74m05s13f

edit: results here:


The results were not perfect but at least the drive didn't sound like it was dying all the time like when I used a cheap CDR for testing. Skip was minimal (there's one in the video and it was the first time it skipped with me) and I think the loading times were a little bit slower (DD2 owners please chime in!). Written 10x in a cheap notebook burner, maybe a decent burner might get better results, or another console.

Master EDIT: My burner is bad. SCSI errors aren't caused by CDR for the most part!
I can't do accurate tests, but the video above was my best burn. I'll see if I can find a decent drive here later, but I think that going for GOLD MAM-A or That's (Taiyo Yuden) discs are better options.
« Last Edit: October 13, 2015, 08:27:01 AM by Punch »

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Re: CD-R brands and my SCD system
« Reply #58 on: October 13, 2015, 10:18:43 AM »
^ Get a Plextor.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00VPK9S7K?keywords=plextor%20cd%20writer&qid=1444770956&ref_=sr_1_2&sr=8-2

This is the one I've been using, haven't really had any issues so far. Only thing I don't like is that I can't burn any slower than 8x. Also, probably can find one cheaper than the one I linked.

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Re: CD-R brands and my SCD system
« Reply #59 on: October 13, 2015, 10:37:02 AM »
Yeah I think that also maybe my Duo isn't calibrated well enough for CDRs. I'll look at getting one of that drive but I think I'll be stuck with only pressed CDs for a while.