Any other well known fakes besides Sapphire and Tobias?

[ClodBuster]

There is a group of X68000 fans at NFGworld that actually did/does group buys of rare games and release them to the public for everybody to enjoy, if I understood the situation right.

[IvanBeavkov]

You don't understand the mindset of some hardcore collectors, especially of unreleased/rare games in Japan. From what I've read, it takes someone on the outside years to get inside those circles, and if they have one whiff of someone "betraying" their trust you are out, done-zo.

It's more a case of being part of a club, or niche group, that prevents wider sharing. In these cases, the things that do get out are precious indeed. Getting ultra angry at things is not worth it though; just enjoy what trickles out because these are long, slow affairs (one person confided in releasing roms at a process that takes years in order to remain undetected).

That is crazy, do they think they are some sort of video game Illuminati? I just can't comprehend that.

[esteban]

I don't know if folks should tell Ivan about the PCE/TG-16 games that are imprisoned in private collections.

Dare we list them?

[IvanBeavkov]

I don't know if folks should tell Ivan about the PCE/TG-16 games that are imprisoned in private collections.

Dare we list them?

Do you want to make a grown man cry? Because that may happen... or irrational rage, it could go either way.

[Samuray]

Is is very difficult to make repro HuCards? I wonder why....there are loads of bootleg GBA and SNES and Mega Drive carts....why no Hueys?

I would have expected to see a bootleg "Magical Chase" by now, be it JP or US reguon, but so far, I haven't. Too small a market?

[SignOfZeta]

It would be pretty hard to make an authentic looking fake HuCARD. "Player's copies", sure, but something that could fool the experts would be very tough.

[Samuray]

It would be pretty hard to make an authentic looking fake HuCARD. "Player's copies", sure, but something that could fool the experts would be very tough.

Okay, sure, but why no "player's copies" then? There are boatloads of cheap Chinese bootlegs of Mega Drive shmups where the carts even feel different than the real ones....those wouldn't even have fooled my mom. Still, they exist.

[Necromancer]

Unlike other systems, hueys aren't standard eeproms soldered to a pcb, so it's not a simple task to repurpose some common game into teh rarez.  Even if you could easily swap the eeprom, you'd still have one hell of a time disassembling/reassembling the huey and replacing the label.  It'd be easier to make all new hueys, but the investment costs would be in the tens of thousands.

As for 'players copies' that work but don't look original, they exist.  Of recent times, there's chueys; back in the day, there were several different styles of professionally made boots.

[Samuray]

Unlike other systems, hueys aren't standard eeproms soldered to a pcb, so it's not a simple task to repurpose some common game into teh rarez.  Even if you could easily swap the eeprom, you'd still have one hell of a time disassembling/reassembling the huey and replacing the label.  It'd be easier to make all new hueys, but the investment costs would be in the tens of thousands.

I see. Although it seems those Chinese Mega Drive games are made of all new components, but...maybe not. Or they are easy to copy, hardware-wise.
It's really interesting that Hueys are so much more complicated.

As for 'players copies' that work but don't look original, they exist.  Of recent times, there's chueys;

And that's a term really tough to google.
CHueys....some kind of flash thingy, I suppose? Without any kind of label print on them?

back in the day, there were several different styles of professionally made boots.

There were? But where are they now? Did they self-destruct due to low quality?
Or were there so few that they are all simply gone with the wind by now?

[Black Tiger]

I think that if someone scanned in a SFII'-style HuCard bump cover and 3D printed replicas and stuck them on those French HuCards that you put your own rom chips on... That it woukd look convincing enough to too many collectards. Especially if you repro'd a Magical Chase manual and maybe even a box to match.

But given the ignorant, yet MIB-obsessed nature of collectards, the cheapest and easiest and fastest way to get rich off of the naive would be to just pack repro MC boxes with any old game and shrink wrap them. VGA is so incompetent that you could get them to grade them 95+ and add a plastic layer of subterfuge.



Samuray: the pirate HuCards haven't gone anywhere. You can usually find them on eBay and they've been discussed in many threads.

http://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?action=search2


Videogameden has a nice section coverinv many of them.

[BigusSchmuck]

You don't understand the mindset of some hardcore collectors, especially of unreleased/rare games in Japan. From what I've read, it takes someone on the outside years to get inside those circles, and if they have one whiff of someone "betraying" their trust you are out, done-zo.

It's more a case of being part of a club, or niche group, that prevents wider sharing. In these cases, the things that do get out are precious indeed. Getting ultra angry at things is not worth it though; just enjoy what trickles out because these are long, slow affairs (one person confided in releasing roms at a process that takes years in order to remain undetected).

Yeah just talk to the guy who supposedly had a prototype of the PCE/turbo version of Marble Madness. Need I say more?

[esteban]

I'll be nice:

http://www.videogameden.com/article.htm?list?hu_sp

(Interesting list of "Special HuCARDs" )

[Samuray]

Thanks fellows, I'll take a look at that!

I'm still surprised though there aren't any faux "Magical Chases" flying around, whether with an actual bootleg of the game inside or an old potato chip.

[Necromancer]

There are bootie hueys of Magical Chase.  Here's mine:

[johnnykonami]

There are bootie hueys of Magical Chase.  Here's mine:

At least it's obvious when you see it.  I bet even one of those is pricey nowadays, right?