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esteban

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Re: Games with HUGE Difficulty Spikes
« Reply #15 on: September 18, 2015, 04:53:14 PM »

F u RType level 5. Just go to hell you piece of @!#?@.

Oh, yeah, and Blazing Lazers too. Go burn with R-Type.

Oh, and hi peeps, I'm new here. The Turbo is rad and Lords of Thunder has an absolutely perfect difficulty curve if played clockwise.

If you give Blazing Lazers more time, you'll see that it is actually easy.

Sadly, R-Type still makes me choke and I frequently f-up in that damn game. I have a compulsion to kill every single enemy and I reckon I'm supposed to let some enemies drift by unscathed. BUT I DON'T WANT TO!
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Re: Games with HUGE Difficulty Spikes
« Reply #16 on: September 18, 2015, 07:24:09 PM »
I think the difficulty of Blazing Lazers in its later levels is tuned to be challenging, but not overly frustrating. I'm not that good at shooters, but this game gives me the feeling that I should be able to beat it someday.

R-Type however is just sadistic. It lures you with it's quite manageable first half and then it throws you on the ground, breaks your limbs, cuts off your dick and shits in your face while laughing.

The same happens in R-Type II and III, but this time even sooner in the 2nd level.
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Re: Games with HUGE Difficulty Spikes
« Reply #17 on: September 18, 2015, 11:12:57 PM »
^Your imagery was frightening, but apt.
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Re: Games with HUGE Difficulty Spikes
« Reply #18 on: September 19, 2015, 01:08:58 AM »
Yeah level 4 and on in R-Type is quite frustrating at times, but Blazing Lazers/ Gunhed is really easy to me.  Always has been.  It is still one of my favorite shooters ever on the system though.


@Ivan:  Yeah it was in the Egyptian temple.  I bought the game at toys r us.  Thought it was super easy.  Then I got there and it was just total frustration.  I eventually did beat it, but I could tell WD did some tweaks with him.  It has been a long time since I've played the pc-e version.  I do remember it being way more balanced and easy.
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Re: Games with HUGE Difficulty Spikes
« Reply #19 on: September 19, 2015, 01:38:22 AM »

If you give Blazing Lazers more time, you'll see that it is actually easy.


My problem with BL is that once the game decides to wake me up from my 6/7 level slumber, I've lost interest to take on the challenge and plod along. I beat the game once, many, many moons ago, sold the chip, and now have no desire to even select it from the Everdrive menu.  :oops:

Having said that, I still enjoyed the game, but I've always found it to be overrated. It was the reason I eventually got into the Turbo (was a Sega kid), so I'll always give it that.

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Re: Games with HUGE Difficulty Spikes
« Reply #20 on: September 19, 2015, 02:54:08 AM »


If you give Blazing Lazers more time, you'll see that it is actually easy.


My problem with BL is that once the game decides to wake me up from my 6/7 level slumber, I've lost interest to take on the challenge and plod along. I beat the game once, many, many moons ago, sold the chip, and now have no desire to even select it from the Everdrive menu.  :oops:

Having said that, I still enjoyed the game, but I've always found it to be overrated. It was the reason I eventually got into the Turbo (was a Sega kid), so I'll always give it that.

Dude! Don't play it on default (easy mode). Play it on the God of Game mode (it will kick your little arse to Paris, Texas, and back).

Alternatively, if you play it at default difficulty, purposefully play with the weapon system to make it challenging (never get missiles/shields, ring blaster, F, etc. Use the least effective weapon for various sections, etc.

The variety of weapons options/combinations allow for lots of creativity!

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Re: Games with HUGE Difficulty Spikes
« Reply #21 on: September 19, 2015, 04:03:23 AM »
In the past when I've talked about playing games in challenging way, after people complained that they were too easy, I got some negative responses like 'that proves how broken the game is'. I think that it was also argued that spammining bombs with unlimited continues is the game's fault and not the player, since it was made to let you do it.
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« Reply #22 on: September 19, 2015, 04:27:58 AM »
In the past when I've talked about playing games in challenging way, after people complained that they were too easy, I got some negative responses like 'that proves how broken the game is'. I think that it was also argued that spammining bombs with unlimited continues is the game's fault and not the player, since it was made to let you do it.
That's just stupid. A game should be applauded for allowing different modes of play, not derided.

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Re: Games with HUGE Difficulty Spikes
« Reply #23 on: September 19, 2015, 04:58:50 AM »
That's just stupid. A game should be applauded for allowing different modes of play, not derided.
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Re: Games with HUGE Difficulty Spikes
« Reply #24 on: September 19, 2015, 05:56:06 AM »

In the past when I've talked about playing games in challenging way, after people complained that they were too easy, I got some negative responses like 'that proves how broken the game is'. I think that it was also argued that spammining bombs with unlimited continues is the game's fault and not the player, since it was made to let you do it.

Yeah, spamming bombs and using continues  :)

Hahajjaaj.

I haven't played Aeroblasters recently...now that becomes quite challenging to beat on one credit.

I know a lot of folks who can't handle the second "corridor maze" segment unless they have those skids!

I can dodge pretty well, but even I make mistakes....the skids are a nice security blanket. :)
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Re: Games with HUGE Difficulty Spikes
« Reply #25 on: September 19, 2015, 06:09:40 AM »

In the past when I've talked about playing games in challenging way, after people complained that they were too easy, I got some negative responses like 'that proves how broken the game is'. I think that it was also argued that spammining bombs with unlimited continues is the game's fault and not the player, since it was made to let you do it.

Yeah, spamming bombs and using continues  :)

Hahajjaaj.

I haven't played Aeroblasters recently...now that becomes quite challenging to beat on one credit.

I know a lot of folks who can't handle the second "corridor maze" segment unless they have those skids!

I can dodge pretty well, but even I make mistakes....the skids are a nice security blanket. :)

The most common PCE game that gets criticized for being too easy is Sapphire. It's always bomb/continue spammers who likely can't actually finish the game without bombs, let alone 1cc.
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Re: Games with HUGE Difficulty Spikes
« Reply #26 on: September 19, 2015, 06:29:43 AM »

In the past when I've talked about playing games in challenging way, after people complained that they were too easy, I got some negative responses like 'that proves how broken the game is'. I think that it was also argued that spammining bombs with unlimited continues is the game's fault and not the player, since it was made to let you do it.

Yeah, spamming bombs and using continues  :)

Hahajjaaj.

I haven't played Aeroblasters recently...now that becomes quite challenging to beat on one credit.

I know a lot of folks who can't handle the second "corridor maze" segment unless they have those skids!

I can dodge pretty well, but even I make mistakes....the skids are a nice security blanket. :)

The most common PCE game that gets criticized for being too easy is Sapphire. It's always bomb/continue spammers who likely can't actually finish the game without bombs, let alone 1cc.
1cc'ing Sapphire is no easy feat. IMO, no shooter is "beat" until you do it on one credit.

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Re: Games with HUGE Difficulty Spikes
« Reply #27 on: September 19, 2015, 08:11:21 AM »
No mention of Image Fight and the dreaded Penalty stage?
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Re: Games with HUGE Difficulty Spikes
« Reply #28 on: September 19, 2015, 09:05:41 AM »

Dude! Don't play it on default (easy mode). Play it on the God of Game mode (it will kick your little arse to Paris, Texas, and back).

Alternatively, if you play it at default difficulty, purposefully play with the weapon system to make it challenging (never get missiles/shields, ring blaster, F, etc. Use the least effective weapon for various sections, etc.

The variety of weapons options/combinations allow for lots of creativity!

Hm, how are the later levels if you increase the difficulty? Does it have the same difficulty spike, thus making it impossible, or does that just make the earlier levels harder and therefore, the game more balanced?

Thanks for the tip!

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Re: Games with HUGE Difficulty Spikes
« Reply #29 on: September 19, 2015, 09:22:22 AM »
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