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Re: Saber Rider and the Star Sheriffs
« Reply #120 on: June 30, 2016, 12:04:21 AM »
CLARIFICATION: I had to fix an error in the prior post. As it turns out, nickname in high school was "Listening-to-tunes-alone"
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Saber Rider and the Star Sheriffs
« Reply #121 on: June 30, 2016, 12:07:09 AM »
EDITOR'S NOTE: At no time was "poppin'-balloons-alone" a nickname. It was simply a descriptive term my wife used when explaining my obsession with PANG! our children. I miss them. But I can get to the Taj Mahal stage without dying once. Yup. Practice makes perfect.
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Re: Saber Rider and the Star Sheriffs
« Reply #122 on: January 26, 2017, 06:01:15 AM »
OK Arkhan, how's this coming along for that June 2017 deadline?  :wink:

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I see that there have been some fairly-underwhelming updates on the project page, with news that most of the original staff have been fired along the way, and a rumor in the "comments" that all the money has been spent and that nobody is working on the 3DS version ... but apart from that, it's all looking good, and the new background art is quite pretty!

I loved the "rant" blog entry on the actual http://www.saberridergame.com/ website.  :lol:

I've worked with Simon before, and I may have to get in touch and hear his side of the story.

That could be good for a  laugh!

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Re: Saber Rider and the Star Sheriffs
« Reply #123 on: January 26, 2017, 07:20:49 AM »
I'm assuming my money is as good as flushed down the toilet and I'll never get anything.

It'll be yet another failed kickstarter campaign, but those scumbags will claim it's a success because we got the video or maybe a poster pdf download.
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Re: Saber Rider and the Star Sheriffs
« Reply #124 on: January 26, 2017, 07:22:07 AM »
I've worked with Simon before, and I may have to get in touch and hear his side of the story.

If it's this Simon, he's already given his side of it, in a hilarious way: https://youtu.be/kR3Gd4-8nnY?t=3149

His rant here already is one of the best things caught on video: https://youtu.be/kR3Gd4-8nnY?t=1435
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Re: Saber Rider and the Star Sheriffs
« Reply #125 on: January 26, 2017, 07:55:03 AM »
I've worked with Simon before, and I may have to get in touch and hear his side of the story.

If it's this Simon, he's already given his side of it, in a hilarious way: https://youtu.be/kR3Gd4-8nnY?t=3149

His rant here already is one of the best things caught on video: https://youtu.be/kR3Gd4-8nnY?t=1435

Damned right handers f*cking shit up for everyone YET AGAIN.

I never really had hope I'm so glad I've never invested penny 1 into any crowd funded thing, it's always seems like the modern version of a snake oil salesman, maybe someone can make a game based around that?

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Re: Saber Rider and the Star Sheriffs
« Reply #126 on: January 26, 2017, 08:13:20 AM »
I am done with crowdfunding...

FWIW, that Simon guy comes across pretty arrogant and intolerant.

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Re: Saber Rider and the Star Sheriffs
« Reply #127 on: January 26, 2017, 08:49:44 AM »
If it's this Simon, he's already given his side of it, in a hilarious way:

Hahaha, yes, that's Simon. He's not changed much after all of these years.  :lol:

Thanks for the link, it was all very nostalgic to see them together again.  :D


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His rant here already is one of the best things caught on video:

Brilliant!  :clap:


FWIW, that Simon guy comes across pretty arrogant and intolerant.

He doesn't put up with fools or waste, and he has the intelligence and wit to come up with some really good insults.

That makes him a "troublemaker" in a lot of company's eyes, particularly when there is so much clueless middle-management around that demands dewy-eyed subservient respect for their authority while they're busy f*cking up.

You can call that "arrogant" or "intolerant", but I'd rather work with someone that challenges decisions and tries to make things better, than someone who just sucks the time and money out of a project while delivering as-little-as-possible in return.

Just compare the drawn-out lack-of-results of the Sabre Rider project, and the Sydney Hunter project, with what folks like Simon, and Steve and even Mark used to be asked to do, and actually delivered, within a few weeks or months of work.
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Re: Saber Rider and the Star Sheriffs
« Reply #128 on: January 26, 2017, 11:55:20 AM »
Firstly:
f*ck that Simon guy.  For starts, the sprites he drew sucked

Secondly, he didn't seem to give a shit about the series, or the project (as proven in the video).   

He just wanted money, and his lackluster bullshit kind of indicated that.  For someone who's apparently a seasoned veteran, and master talent, why the f*ck is he apparently so hard up that he needs to hit up a kickstarter he doesn't care about to get money?  lol.  seems legit.

It also takes a giant dose of moron to sit there in a chair and talk shit about fans of a series for wanting their right handed characters to be right handed in the game.

Dude in Rolling Thunder is right handed.  Worked fine.   Samus is right handed.  Worked fine.   Learn how to draw better, maybe?

Anyway:

We've not done much, and the project itself has not done a great deal either outside of what you can see on their KS, as the person in charge was hospitalized with fairly serious health issues, and is/was still recovering and sorting things out.

...Including dealing with the backlash of all of the KS people, who as usual, misunderstand the potential risks of crowdfunding, and shit the bed almost immediately when they aren't getting their toys immediately.


Also, while it's easy to sit back and poke fun and name call someone while talking about whatever glory days or deliverable some other dickfaced party produced, I'd prefer to wait it out until I see ACTUAL signs of shit-showing, as opposed to "hey sorry, I almost died".   

Keep in mind, too: The Asstastical Watermelon Factory is involved, so some blame for any project mishaps should also fall on their stupid asses.

Anyway, I also don't see why it was even necessary to bump this thread, other than to be an ass (you yourself claim you apparently enjoy doing this because you think it accomplishes something.), and to remind people that you used to work with these people at one point in time so you can take a walk down memory lane.   

You clearly already saw the latest/greatest updates, and you probably didn't even back the project anyways.   

If you want a real update on the PCE one, though, I'll say what I already said, as nothing has really changed and people have shit memories:

[ul][li]It won't be like what is shown for the other versions.   It's apparently become Contra: CosmoDodge City.  I'm not a fan of that.   I also want the PCE one to be in line with a PC Engine style game, instead of trying to be something else. [/li][li]The art will all need redone.  Sizes and color depth are not PCE standard.  This is similar to why I keep telling people I am not porting Inferno to PCE.   [/li][li]Most, if not all of the parallax won't really be a thing.  The tile layouts were not done with PCE in mind.   Going with high detail, non parallax backdrops seems like a better idea than over simplifying shit so there can be some campy parallax effect on some levels.  If it's possible to revamp stuff for decent line scroll parallax, it might become a thing.   I doubt it.    Plenty of top-end PCE games don't use parallax, so,  :-"[/li][li]Those first persony scenes will probably be nixed.  They seemed dopey anyways.[/li][li]We've not been given any assets to work with yet, and any sort of payment for what we do has also not really been mentioned or finalized.  The one doc we were given is pretty out of date based off of how stuff has changed.
[/li][/ul]Unfortunately, the PCE was not the main source of money or backers.   It's not a top priority version, despite the fact it will likely involve the most effort.

So, everyone might as well just forget about it until I say otherwise.   You'll know if I've started working on it, because I will tell you.

PS: It's Saber Rider.  Not Sabre Rider.   Your English doesn't apply to show/game titles.   You're always so pedantic about shit, I expect you to not do things like this.
[Fri 19:34]<nectarsis> been wanting to try that one for awhile now Ope
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Re: Saber Rider and the Star Sheriffs
« Reply #129 on: January 26, 2017, 02:01:18 PM »
Wow, someone got out of the bed on the wrong side again this morning!

That's twice this week that you've had a wild over-reaction and gone on an angry rant at me.  :lol:


If you want a real update on the PCE one ...

Yes, please.

... reading ...

Thanks!


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Anyway, I also don't see why it was even necessary to bump this thread, other than to be an ass (you yourself claim you apparently enjoy doing this because you think it accomplishes something.), and to remind people that you used to work with these people at one point in time so you can take a walk down memory lane.

Nope, I went to look because I was contacted by the musician on Sydney Hunter inquiring about the possibility of using Huzak instead of Squirrel, and that reminded me of both The Old Man's posts on Sydney Hunter, and about Saber Rider.

So I went to take a look at both of the KickStarter pages to see how they were getting along.

Then, since it looked like there had been a few roadbumps, I thought that I'd ask about the progress.

I'm sorry if you don't share my amusement at the art of a good rant. Heck, I even find Lewis Black amusing at times!

A sense of humor is a very personal thing. You might try getting one sometime, and seeing if you like it.


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PS: It's Saber Rider.  Not Sabre Rider.   Your English doesn't apply to show/game titles.

Sorry, you're right. I forgot to check and just typed in the correct spelling for the word, rather than the kids-show sound-alike.

I should have checked and got it right.

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Re: Saber Rider and the Star Sheriffs
« Reply #130 on: January 26, 2017, 02:12:30 PM »
... raw nerve there, Arkhan lol.


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Re: Saber Rider and the Star Sheriffs
« Reply #131 on: January 26, 2017, 08:29:09 PM »
I've worked with Simon before, and I may have to get in touch and hear his side of the story.

If it's this Simon, he's already given his side of it, in a hilarious way: https://youtu.be/kR3Gd4-8nnY?t=3149

His rant here already is one of the best things caught on video: https://youtu.be/kR3Gd4-8nnY?t=1435

Rubbish and God help anyone who pledged to its Kickstarter ??? Hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!

Saber Riders!!! Forgot all about this thread!

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Re: Saber Rider and the Star Sheriffs
« Reply #132 on: January 26, 2017, 09:25:28 PM »
I have a sense of humor.   

There's just not much I find funny about the tongue in cheek delivery of your inquiry, including sitting back, polishing your dicktip while talking up some dude that looks like a ballsack with eyes, and his opinions on a project he clearly didn't give a shit about when signing on.   People who sign onto shit just for the money are giant tools.   This guy included.   Then he goes and makes moronic rants to a room full of gimps.  No wonder he's now a washed out old simpleton that can't even get his garbagey art to stick in a KS he doesn't care about.

Besides, Ocean put out a lot of horse shit back in the day, so you should stop acting like this guy is some saint/powerhouse, especially since you've done so while ignorantly talking a little shit about the person doing SRATSS, without realizing what all is going on.

You often talk about the professional glory days.    That doesn't seem very professional.

and, I will repeat:

His art f*cking sucked.  I'm glad that at some point in the future, we won't be having to re-diddle his sprites for PCE, because they looked like total dick.

This is the PCE scene.   Everyone's used to waiting for shit.   


By the way: how's your PCFX game coming along?
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Re: Saber Rider and the Star Sheriffs
« Reply #133 on: January 26, 2017, 10:23:48 PM »
Nobody is exactly wrong here, but I think the definition of "professional" could be argued that one is capable of finishing something only for the money.  If you need passion to get something done, and then so lack speed when your heart's not into the project, you are not professional enough by this definition.  I think a person who knows himself well enough & is disciplined enough to finish something through just for the money (ie: he couldn't care less about the character) is an asset when well-directed on a project.

Then, there's the flipside of people who are incredibly passionate about things from their childhood (anime, comics) but who only have passion to spare; and no business sense, acumen, leadership skills, etc.  Mr. Butler said the same thing in that video about Mr. Saber Rider, but here's a better example:


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Basically he does lots of armchair analysis of seemingly why projects go south, and the common denominator often tends to be dreamers who don't know their limitations, but yet somehow are lucky/cunning enough to get people to pay to follow that dream.

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Saber Rider and the Star Sheriffs
« Reply #134 on: January 26, 2017, 11:01:24 PM »
I am glad this thread was bumped, because I have looked for it a few times, but I could not remember the damn title of the show ("Saber Ryders and Omar Sherif").

I have never heard of this show, nor have I seen it, so I was curious and wanted to watch at least an episode or two.

Instead, I ended up watching:
Doctor Zhivago
Galaxy Rangers
Lawrence of Arabia
Bravestarr
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