Author Topic: Supergrafx RGB Image Shearing  (Read 732 times)

famiac

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Supergrafx RGB Image Shearing
« on: October 19, 2015, 07:13:57 PM »
Hi all.

I modified my SGX using the amp on the gamesx website. Much like Chris Covell, i experienced image shearing after the initial mod, but only on my BVM 20F1U. I removed the amplifier as Chris suggested here, but i'm still getting the same problem.

Any idea what might be causing this?


thesteve

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Re: Supergrafx RGB Image Shearing
« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2015, 07:52:30 PM »
your monitor is expecting C-Sync and your feeding it composite video instead

famiac

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Re: Supergrafx RGB Image Shearing
« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2015, 08:01:25 PM »
I'm pretty sure, if not positive, that i tapped the signal from the correct c-sync pin. Also, my pvm, which does display the image properly, would not display it if i was actually feeding it composite video. I will double check, though.

Thanks for the tip. I'll open it over the weekend. My gamebit is at my parents' house.
« Last Edit: October 19, 2015, 08:03:38 PM by famiac »

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Re: Supergrafx RGB Image Shearing
« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2015, 08:31:38 AM »
Have you properly terminated the BVM'S outputs with 75ohm BNC terminals?

I have the same monitor and I had to do it to get my Duo to work.

You can find them on Ebay, just make sure they are actual 75 ohm BNC terminal caps and not just dust covers. Hope this helps

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Re: Supergrafx RGB Image Shearing
« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2015, 05:49:23 PM »
its also possible that your sync is just too low

Vimtoman

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Re: Supergrafx RGB Image Shearing
« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2015, 12:29:44 AM »
It's definitely Sync tearing. Try placing a cap in series with the C-sync signal. Try a 220uf .

famiac

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Re: Supergrafx RGB Image Shearing
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2015, 08:04:40 PM »
Ok. I will try all of your suggestions. I bought some 75 ohm terminators. I only have one right now.

Thanks guys

famiac

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Re: Supergrafx RGB Image Shearing
« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2015, 03:52:39 PM »
Ok, so it's definitely connected to c-sync.

I added a 220uf cap in series. I'll report back tomorrow to see if it worked.


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Re: Supergrafx RGB Image Shearing
« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2015, 06:29:03 PM »
remember the 6260 only puts out 0.3V sync which doesnt make most displays happy

famiac

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Re: Supergrafx RGB Image Shearing
« Reply #9 on: October 23, 2015, 08:44:53 PM »
The sync was amplified, but i disconnected the amp after i saw the image shearing because that's how chris covell got his to work. It was part of the trial & error process. I could reconnect it.

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Re: Supergrafx RGB Image Shearing
« Reply #10 on: October 23, 2015, 09:15:45 PM »
the amp i suspect you used would not have produced any voltage gain
the easiest way to deal with it is using the LM1881 from composite video

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Re: Supergrafx RGB Image Shearing
« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2015, 03:51:22 AM »
The image may shift if using the LM1881.

famiac

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Re: Supergrafx RGB Image Shearing
« Reply #12 on: October 25, 2015, 09:14:44 AM »
Ok, i've tried adding the 220uf cap and terminating the outputs. None of those worked, so i'm gonna try the lm1881 as a last resort.

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Re: Supergrafx RGB Image Shearing
« Reply #13 on: October 25, 2015, 08:28:18 PM »
0.3v is the standard level for the sync pulse.
Have you tried the sync pulse direct from the expansion port via a capacitor?
Not through the amp.

famiac

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Re: Supergrafx RGB Image Shearing
« Reply #14 on: October 26, 2015, 06:31:25 AM »
Yeah. That's how it's configured right now