Should we have a post requirement for new people posting in the sales thread?

[EmperorIng]

What's your point?

That it's silly to pin the health of an online forum to external factors like the videogame secondhand market.

Yeah, no shit I can just everdrive it. I don't want to.

Why are so many of you f*cking pansies when it comes up to parasitic vultures? Don't be a defeatist cuntnugget.

50 to 100 posts seems reasonable if that's the direction we want to head in.  I prefer leaving it to the member to decided on whether they want to deal with noobs or not.

I think it's just better for the seller to decide who to sell to, whether they want to "keep it in" or make money or "share the fun" or whatever. I suspect that locking the forum away from >100 posters is going to de-incentivize posting overall, or fill it up with quoted posts saying "lol" or "this!" or other likewise garbage that's just a pain to read. If anything it can be just like getting rid of the captcha, 10 posts or whatever.

The root cause of the issue is that older games/systems are becoming more popular and hobbyist groups are more visible and pronounced. There's nothing a forum can do to prevent that (because the forum is a part of that trend and not apart from it). There can be small courtesy measures (like the fact that you can't even browse this forum without joining) but it's not going to change over all trends.

[PunkicCyborg]

Bring on the noobs. No posts counts, who cares if people wanna buy and sell stuff. If you are interested in a hobby, going to a forum to buy and sell stuff is normal. What if a noob wants to unload his collection for a good price? Nobody would care. If some asshat comes in and wants to flip shit they will get driven away anyways. Post restrictions just make it so people bump threads with smilie faces and "cool" posts

[johnnykonami]

I know when I first started posting here, I was looking to buy some games.  I myself viewed (and still do) this forum as pretty much the premier english forum for Turbo/PCE expertise, so it's only natural that someone would look here for help in acquiring related goods.  I can't see the harm in letting new members participate in the sales forums - you aren't obligated to buy from or sell to them if you don't want to.  I know most of my early posts looking for games weren't met with much success, and that's OK.  I had to relearn the market since I had been away for a while, and I while I spent a lot of time before on the Turbo Mailing List as my primary resource, prices and availability have definitely changed since then.  I can't begrudge people who honestly want to participate in owning some obey.  I can understand wanting to keep flippers from doing their thing, though - but there is little you can do about that, right?  Anybody here with a large post count could do it in secret just by using a different username on ebay.  You just have to hope that doesn't happen.

Raffles though, yeah.  That's something unique and cool about this place I've never seen elsewhere, and for that you should definitely have to prove you're part of the community by posting. 

[Necromancer]

I'd be okay with a post count requirement to create a for sale thread, as 9 out of 10 times the noob isn't looking to do us any favors, but I'm not in favor of limiting them from posting in other's threads (for sale or raffles).  If the seller/raffler wants to deal with noobs, it's their business, and preventing noobs from posting wouldn't limit their ability to send a PM to the seller anyway.


In any case, I don't set the rules.  It'd be up to Aaron, and he's rather laissez faire about buy/sell/trade.

[MrBroadway]

I guess that settles it then. But one thing that is possible to do, if you so wished, would be to completely hide the BST forums until a member reaches a certain post count.

[BigusSchmuck]

I guess that settles it then. But one thing that is possible to do, if you so wished, would be to completely hide the BST forums until a member reaches a certain post count.

I agree.. That sounds the easiest way to do this.

[Necromancer]

I guess that settles it then. But one thing that is possible to do, if you so wished, would be to completely hide the BST forums until a member reaches a certain post count.

It's possible for Aaron to implement, no doubt, but it's not something I can do.  My administration abilities begin and end with approving and banning members.

Nonsense. That would just result in even more errant posts in PC-FX Discussion.

[Warbucks]

  You can't buy or sell here....

We hate you ... (after 100 posts) then maybe we will like you a little.

[RNSpeed]

You can't buy or sell here....

We hate you ... (after 100 posts) then maybe we will like you a little.

Too restrictive then that's how it feels.

[Opethian]

abolish the market in favour of a raffle only policy

[MrBroadway]

abolish the market in favour of a raffle only policy

Or just abolish the market!

[Gentlegamer]

If you don't limit the marketplace in the current environment, you will attract the wrong type of members.

There's a reason we've seen most of the new members recently make a first post WTB. That's their first thought when getting approved, this is just a marketplace to them, that's the mentality of the collectard (TAKE THAT SKELLETARD).

Neo-geo.com has a certain rep, but whatever else it may be, it has taken seriously the defense of its forum from pure leechers and flippers who have no contribution outside the marketplace, banning decade long members with like 10 posts, all in the marketplace, and 100 feedback, for example.

How should the marketplace forums be limited? I don't know what hard and fast rule to apply. A post count limit would block hashiriya1, who has few posts, but is like the Santa Claus of import goodness, offering great prices on Japanese items quickly shipped from California.

At neo-geo.com, it's case by case basis, there's even a thread to nominate members to have marketplace privilege restricted. So it's a community effort.

[tknjin]

I would be ok with a 50-100 post as well.  I know on assembler you have to have a certain amount of posts and be a member for at least 3 months in order to be considered to sell to other members. 

[Lost Monkey]

I voted 50.  It isn't a big deal to get in 50 posts and figure the place out before asking for the bro deals...

[Opethian]

This aint neo-geo. putting a minimum post count has all sorts of other side effects like people shitposting just to make the cut. People already are doing that just to get considered for raffles with a post count stipulation. A new shit member will always be a new shit member. I think the regulars police the forums well enough. but that's just my 50p