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the haze

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Ys Special Edition - 2001 -> 2016 version plans.
« on: January 24, 2016, 06:20:20 PM »
Who remembers this little project I made?
http://electrohaze.com/duo/ysse.shtml

I was contacted recently about it from someone wanting to download it (the link was broken).
Link fixed, but it got me thinking...

I could revisit this project and make it WAY better now.

Since the creation of this project back in 2001 I learned a lot about audio, started DJing and so on... I am thinking of doing a much higher quality audio remaster and remix of all audio... bring this up to a 2016 audio standard.

I will need to get as many Ys soundtrack audio files as possible to make this project possible. Old 128kbps mp3s will simply NOT DO.

Anyone have access to lossless Ys soundtrack files?  or at least 320kbps mp3s?

Who would like to hear a 2016 version of this?


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Re: Ys Special Edition - 2001 -> 2016 version plans.
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2016, 08:28:54 PM »
Wait, I'm on my phone. No timestamps in my app. But this can't be a coincidence.... I posted earlier today about playing "Ys Special Edition" and how much fun it was (back in 2001-2002).

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Re: Ys Special Edition - 2001 -> 2016 version plans.
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2016, 09:00:52 PM »
Wait, I'm on my phone. No timestamps in my app. But this can't be a coincidence.... I posted earlier today about playing "Ys Special Edition" and how much fun it was (back in 2001-2002).

Answer: Yes

Really? 
It's so nice to be remembered...
I didn't think I really did much at the time, (and still don't) but I guess some people enjoyed it.

For now I am just going to have one mission.  To gather as many versions of each track released as possible...   

Once I am satisfied I will start the remixes. 

I plan to remix / remaster each track individually as LIVE recordings using turntables, DJ mixer and Japanese sound system recorded directly to .wave.  then edited again in a wave editor... 

My hope is to make each track extended and as long as possible, featuring as many remixes each track as I can in each mix.

The biggest problem is CD space. 80min for redbook audio max.
Many spoken dialogue tracks from the game eat up a lot of redbook audio time of the CD. A few have music intro's and fades, maybe I can trim a little of each one without effecting experience of the game to gain some time.  For the original version I cut the warning audio track to a 1 second dummy track to gain those valuable minutes..

This project will take quite some time...
I also don't even know how make the CD working again, but I think with this tool it shouldn't be a problem.. https://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?topic=1604.0 

I think when the time comes I shouldn't have any problems recreating the CD with info from the forum. The method I used in 2001 isn't available to me anymore.

Maybe I look over my archives and see if I can do a test mix of one song before boasting anymore about this project to make sure it's a viable one.







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Re: Ys Special Edition - 2001 -> 2016 version plans.
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2016, 11:00:29 PM »
I am trying to get lossless versions of tracks now....
so far, no success...
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Re: Ys Special Edition - 2001 -> 2016 version plans.
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2016, 02:24:40 AM »
I totally just ordered used copies of:

Ys Perfect Collections 1 & 2 on CD!

No sound quality loss now!
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Re: Ys Special Edition - 2001 -> 2016 version plans.
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2016, 04:42:59 PM »
Heh, didn't we just talk about this on fb? lol. Yeah man, I remember downloading your files a long ass time ago. A new version with  cleaner sound would be nice!
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Re: Ys Special Edition - 2001 -> 2016 version plans.
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2016, 05:25:58 PM »
Heh, didn't we just talk about this on fb? lol. Yeah man, I remember downloading your files a long ass time ago. A new version with  cleaner sound would be nice!


Ha ha... prob did. but it's hard to know who here is on facebook and who isn't... trying to cover all my bases. :)

Yes... starting to gather all the audio right now. I will need to select the proper software for remixing and remastering... we will see if what happens! It's going to take some time....

Any suggestions?
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Re: Ys Special Edition - 2001 -> 2016 version plans.
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2016, 12:45:41 AM »
I just saw this thread and this sounds like a cool project.

haze, I have the following albums I could rip to FLAC for you if you don't have them.

Ys Heaven's Sanctuary OST - J.D.K. Band (This one is probably my favorite)
Ys Heaven's Sanctuary OST - Electric Orchestra
Ys & Ys II Eternal Original Sound Track
Symphony Ys '95
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Re: Ys Special Edition - 2001 -> 2016 version plans.
« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2016, 01:12:54 PM »
I just saw this thread and this sounds like a cool project.

haze, I have the following albums I could rip to FLAC for you if you don't have them.

Ys Heaven's Sanctuary OST - J.D.K. Band (This one is probably my favorite)
Ys Heaven's Sanctuary OST - Electric Orchestra
Ys & Ys II Eternal Original Sound Track
Symphony Ys '95




Thanks a lot man!   I don't have lossless versions of those. But, with those... I should have enough tracks to get going! 

I did do some testing with a set of tracks I had. The original plan I had. (using my existing dj set) will not be possible. So, now I am looking at remixing software to use instead. I will have to cut up the tracks to connect, remix and extend them.

The bottom line is, all the songs from Ys, although awesome. Are way too short. I think only around 30min on the YS 1&2 disc is actual music.  Songs like in the field in ys one... when you are playing the game you hear that track over and over and over again. I want 6-8min tracks not 3 min ones.

Thanks for your support, PM sent.
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Re: Ys Special Edition - 2001 -> 2016 version plans.
« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2016, 04:36:22 PM »
Hey haze,

Good to see that page back up, as mentioned I remember it BITD! Just downloaded your CD image and am giving a listen to the tracks. Don't think I ever got that before, but I used your artwork in one of my PC patches as I recall.

You wanted more source music available so you can experiment with another fan arrangement. I think Josep's Falcom Music Channel should be quite helpful to you. I recently gave him raw Ys IV tracks as he cares about high quality and has pretty much put almost everything up that Falcom released! He's been a machine and I'm quite surprised with how much soundtracks he's put up with a thorough level of detail like composers/arrangers/etc.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCz7eke4JGlbtc11_6mmA7ew
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCz7eke4JGlbtc11_6mmA7ew/playlists

I'd say you have almost everything available at your fingertips. You could listen through that, find what you like, and maybe ask him for the raw redbook source if the Youtube encoding is not to your liking or even find the original soundtrack if you wish (as you already have in some cases).

Good luck!



EDIT: While we're on the subject, I thought I'd pass along some other great fan arrangements from Ys fans via Dwelling of Duels. Dunno if you ever knew about this so it might interest you.



http://www.ysutopia.net/forums/index.php?topic=376.msg3536#msg3536

I found an updated link as their domain changed. Here's everything they produced:

http://dwellingofduels.net/dodarchive/09-03-Ys_Month/
http://dwellingofduels.net/duel.php?dir=09-03-Ys_Month&month=ys&img=ys

My top 5 as listed:
[uldecimal][li]http://www.ysutopia.net/special/fantracks/02-Scaredsim-Medley-Morning-DoD.mp3
[/li][li]http://www.ysutopia.net/special/fantracks/ZZalt-BONKERS-Ys6-Ocean-DoD.mp3
[/li][li]http://www.ysutopia.net/special/fantracks/04-ansgaros-Ys1-Dawn-DoD.mp3
[/li][li]http://www.ysutopia.net/special/fantracks/ZZalt-MH-Ys6-Ernst-DoD.mp3
[/li][li]http://www.ysutopia.net/special/fantracks/01-DrManhattan-Ys3-Boy-DoD.mp3
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Re: Ys Special Edition - 2001 -> 2016 version plans.
« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2016, 03:07:08 PM »
Wow NightWolf!

At the moment I got just enough to start the testing process... and now you put more source material up for me to get?!  ARRR!  :mrgreen: 

Seriously though, thanks. I will be looking at that stuff for sure, the more the better! I love new arrangements.  :clap:

I will continue to post to this thread to report my progress. 

For those who are interested about software...
I have tried out "Mixed In Key's Mashup 2.5." Although it does get the job done, I got board with the app in a few hours. There just isn't much to it.  I might use powerful wave editor like Goldwave, to EQ tracks, and boost levels, the pull them into Masup 2.5 and rearrange them... or Adobe Audition looks a lot more powerful.  I am going to try to get a copy of that installed and give it a try. I am pretty good with Adobe apps, and I have used it a little before.

I just finished connecting two versions of the "Palace" track from Ys 1,  and it yielded pleasing results. However. I can't wait until I get a few more HQ versions of this track. Hopefully there will be a little more to work with than a 1-2 min of song of mostly melody. (which is hard to mix).

Much more can be done for sure, I just thought it would be fun to post a mini progress / status update!  8)

Click the link below the screen capture to listen to my test.
This link will remain up for an undetermined period of time.

http://electrohaze.com/music/ys1%20-%20palace_test.mp3

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Re: Ys Special Edition - 2001 -> 2016 version plans.
« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2016, 03:54:02 PM »
Hey! I want to listen.

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Re: Ys Special Edition - 2001 -> 2016 version plans.
« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2016, 07:26:49 PM »
Liked! Almost tuned out (too much original starting off), but continued to give it a chance and it did get better/worthwhile!

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Re: Ys Special Edition - 2001 -> 2016 version plans.
« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2016, 09:43:08 PM »
Liked! Almost tuned out (too much original starting off), but continued to give it a chance and it did get better/worthwhile!

I agree with you NightWolve... It's just a little test after all! :)
For the moment, because the original is so short, I just left it as the intro.  I fully intend to do a lot more to the track than this. The next cut will have more interesting stuff in the beginning, I promise. :) Thinking of laying down some techno beats or something. Ironically... this is the last track that needs extending as you spend hardly any time in the Palace at all. lol

Hey! I want to listen.

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Sorry about this, for some reason the server decided to poop itself after I posted this. I can't access it either! :(  I just sent a mail support for my server....   Maybe check back in a few hours or so to see if it's back up.
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Re: Ys Special Edition - 2001 -> 2016 version plans.
« Reply #14 on: January 31, 2016, 07:22:33 AM »
OK, the link worked on my laptop.

Yeah, at first I was like...this is the original version (which is a great track, of course).

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