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Re: For those who grew up with imported pce in Europe
« Reply #75 on: November 20, 2016, 10:31:44 PM »
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Everywhere you looked there were Mega Drives, Neo Geos and PC Engines running the best new games that were available. It was an audio visual overload. I remember it was the first time I ever saw a SuperGrafx or Neo Geo in person and also the first time I laid eyes on a Game Boy (also Japanese import) right before they got released in the UK. I clearly recall agonising over whether to buy a SuperGrafx or an original white Engine, but the SuperGrafx was quite a bit more expensive. I bought a copy of Splatterhouse with my PC Engine and the total was around £250 - £275, so definitely not cheap. Import gaming was definitely not for the faint hearted or gamers on a budget. I remember Splatterhouse had just been released and was a red hot title. I was so excited to get home and fire it up and it certainly didn't disappoint. :D

Great memories of an absolutely golden bygone era!


Amazing. To my knowledge, we had no equivalent in the States. No import "scene" per se, just a few scattered shops that might carry some import games.

As stated earlier in the thread, even folks outside of England/UK love reading about this piece of PCE history because *we don't know about it*.

I just want to REQUEST... if you folks have *any* zines, ads, documents, flyers from any of these shops, I would love to include them here:

http://archives.tg-16.com/magazine_database.htm?col=region&val=uk

It is shameful that there are only two entries for U.K. 

I NEED TO FIX THAT.

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Those shows only ran for a handful of years from the late 80's to the early 90's. The ECES event was superseded by the Live '9X event each September, which was more of a general consumer electronics/technology show, but also had vendor areas where import dealers sold their wares if memory serves.  There's few videos from the Live '95 event here, which I'm sure I went to:

http://www.itnsource.com/en/shotlist/RTV/1995/09/19/605230725

They were consumer shows for the general public, as opposed to the ECTS (European Computer Trade Show) which was a bit like the UK E3, albeit on a smaller and less significant scale. That trade show ended in the mid 2000's.

It would be great to get some of those Electric Brain fanzines scanned and uploaded anyway, as it was a prolific publication with at least 40 or so issues published, featuring some fantastic content. With the arrival of HyperPlay RPG and a seemingly renewed interest in old school 90's style fanzines, it would be amazing to see another PC Engine 'zine on the scene along the lines of the brilliant but abortive PCP. I'm sure there would be plenty of interest. The PC Engine was a sorely neglected console back then and there was precious little in the way of fanzine support, which is such a shame.
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Re: For those who grew up with imported pce in Europe
« Reply #76 on: November 21, 2016, 02:34:45 AM »

Looking through this thread I saw some mention the PCE guide book, I actually had this back in the day, great book! Like the loser I was I even laminated the book to prevent damage :/ I also highlighted the games I had in the cheats section and wrote down the games that I wanted/own in the notes section :)






i had that home made magazine as well


You can grab a scanned copy of this from:

PC Engine Guide 1993 (UK - Fanzine Style Publication): http://www.mediafire.com/?ogyzdjhltid

EDIT:

Whoops just noticed that esteban already posted a link to this earlier in this tread, sorry!

http://archives.tg-16.com/magazine_database.htm?col=main&val=complete

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Re: For those who grew up with imported pce in Europe
« Reply #77 on: November 21, 2016, 06:42:49 AM »
OldGameMags have put up a scan of Electric Brain issue 35 (1993-06)  :D

http://www.oldgamemags.com/electric-brain/


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Re: For those who grew up with imported pce in Europe
« Reply #78 on: March 27, 2017, 07:49:23 AM »
OldGameMags have put up a scan of Electric Brain issue 35 (1993-06)  :D

http://www.oldgamemags.com/electric-brain/




Missed this before, thanks for the link.

One day when I get a better scanner I'll have to scan in all my Electric Brain issues, I think I have all of them.
I unfortunately don't have Onn Lee's precursor fanzines Console Ma'zine or PC Engine Fanatics.

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Re: For those who grew up with imported pce in Europe
« Reply #79 on: March 27, 2017, 07:59:04 AM »
When it comes to video games, as said above this my favorite subject.

That's why I love old fanzines, it's like a window portal back into that time. The one Esteban linked to above is a perfect example.

Through the 16 bit era the PC Engine and the grey import scene was massive in the UK, but for some reason I don't know, there seems to be a lack of any community that wants to reminisce about those days. I'm jealous of Shubibiman who has the French Necstasy forum. I would love a UK equivalent.

Here's a couple of threads about the UK scene. It has links to other threads which had loads of magazine & fanzine scans which unfortunately mostly appear to have now gone from where they were hosted.

"CVG pics and Scans - Collecting PC-Engine in the early 90s in the UK part 2"
http://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?topic=19762

"Collecting PC-Engine in the early 90s in the UK"
http://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?topic=6644


Probably because most kids owned a Megadrive, Amiga 500, Master System, C64, or some Speccy variant in the U.K. back then.

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Re: For those who grew up with imported pce in Europe
« Reply #80 on: March 27, 2017, 11:39:29 AM »
OldGameMags have put up a scan of Electric Brain issue 35 (1993-06)  :D

http://www.oldgamemags.com/electric-brain/




Missed this before, thanks for the link.

One day when I get a better scanner I'll have to scan in all my Electric Brain issues, I think I have all of them.
I unfortunately don't have Onn Lee's precursor fanzines Console Ma'zine or PC Engine Fanatics.


Goddamn! Get the better scanner, comrade! :)
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Re: For those who grew up with imported pce in Europe
« Reply #81 on: March 29, 2017, 02:42:01 AM »
One for all my UK based old timer Comrades...





My memory is pretty blurry, perhaps Hardcore Otaking can better recall the details. From what I remember... Console Concepts started out as a mail order only grey importer of the PC Engine (hence the original name PC Engine Supplies) who went on to rebrand themselves as their wares expanded to include the likes of the Mega Drive, Neo Geo and SFC as each system was released. I never visited the physical shop but from what I remember it was a late addition to the business. I was a pretty regular custom back when this card was issued (92-94 I think) but the only 'Priviledge' it ever bought me was the ability to give them my customer number instead of my full address when placing an order over the phone.

Like I say, this is all a long time ago and my memory is pretty shit but I feel like these guys disappeared just prior to the 32bit systems arriving (or maybe just after). It feels as though there was one 'scene' of importers here in the UK throughout the 16bit era (Shekana, the original CEX, VGC, KT Consoles, Dream Machines, etc), then a whole other one after. I guess the PS1 really shook things up on that front. It blew up way bigger than any previous system here in terms of hype and a bunch of new importers jumped on the opportunity. I'm sure some of the existing guys who got on board benefited too but it certainly changed the landscape and as the niche factor started to evaporate, I think a lot of the more obscure stock (pc engine & Neo in particular) was pushed to the back.
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Re: For those who grew up with imported pce in Europe
« Reply #82 on: March 29, 2017, 04:14:04 AM »
I've ordered from them in the past I wonder if they became these guys

http://www.consolepassion.co.uk/

also these guys too

http://www.videogameimports.com/

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Re: For those who grew up with imported pce in Europe
« Reply #83 on: March 29, 2017, 04:16:36 AM »




Awesome scan, as you know I love stuff like this.


My memory is pretty blurry, perhaps Hardcore Otaking can better recall the details. From what I remember... Console Concepts started out as a mail order only grey importer of the PC Engine (hence the original name PC Engine Supplies) who went on to rebrand themselves as their wares expanded to include the likes of the Mega Drive, Neo Geo and SFC as each system was released. I never visited the physical shop but from what I remember it was a late addition to the business. I was a pretty regular custom back when this card was issued (92-94 I think) but the only 'Priviledge' it ever bought me was the ability to give them my customer number instead of my full address when placing an order over the phone.

Like I say, this is all a long time ago and my memory is pretty shit but I feel like these guys disappeared just prior to the 32bit systems arriving (or maybe just after). It feels as though there was one 'scene' of importers here in the UK throughout the 16bit era (Shekana, the original CEX, VGC, KT Consoles, Dream Machines, etc), then a whole other one after. I guess the PS1 really shook things up on that front. It blew up way bigger than any previous system here in terms of hype and a bunch of new importers jumped on the opportunity. I'm sure some of the existing guys who got on board benefited too but it certainly changed the landscape and as the niche factor started to evaporate, I think a lot of the more obscure stock (pc engine & Neo in particular) was pushed to the back.
Yeah as far as I'm aware you're correct about the history of Console Concepts. At the end of 80s they were one of the first major video game "grey importers" under the name PC Engine Supplies. And as you said, as other consoles arrived they changed their name.

Thinking about it my experience of using them was limited. Back all through that era I used to game with 2 other friends, and after I got my Japanese Duo one friend wanted one too and asked me to help him get it, I ordered his one from Console Concepts. I can't remember exactly how but they messed up the order some how (I think maybe sent the console without a game pad), and then after sent me/him a free copy of Final Soldier to compensate. My other experiance with them is buying PC Engine Street Fighter II from them when it was released.

I used Video Game Centre in Bournemouth a few times and also Telegames, but thinking about it my use of mail order was limited.
By far the main way I bought and traded games was through three ways.
1. Loot newspaper. ( basically a printed newspaper version of Gumtree(UK) or Craigslist(US))
2. Through a network of hardcore gamers in the UK at the time, used to speak on the phone and trade games via post. Some from London I'd meet up with and trade.
3. Bricks and mortar stores in the Greater London area, as in all the ones discussed throughout this thread.
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Re: For those who grew up with imported pce in Europe
« Reply #84 on: March 29, 2017, 06:33:35 AM »
I've ordered from them in the past I wonder if they became these guys

http://www.consolepassion.co.uk/

also these guys too

http://www.videogameimports.com/



Videogame Imports is a guy called Lee who used to trade under Dream Machines back in the day.
He has a loyal customer base from more midlands and north of England.
http://www.videogameimports.com/aboutus.htm
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Re: For those who grew up with imported pce in Europe
« Reply #85 on: March 29, 2017, 07:07:54 AM »
Big grey import systems of the late 80s, early 90s era...

PC Engine, Gameboy, Atari Lynx!, Mega Drive, Neo Geo, Super Famicom, FM Towns Marty

...with a bonus mention for the supergun as a lot of these same guys were supplying jamma pcbs

What am I missing?  :-k

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Re: For those who grew up with imported pce in Europe
« Reply #86 on: March 29, 2017, 11:10:51 AM »
Big grey import systems of the late 80s, early 90s era...

PC Engine, Gameboy, Atari Lynx!, Mega Drive, Neo Geo, Super Famicom, FM Towns Marty

...with a bonus mention for the supergun as a lot of these same guys were supplying jamma pcbs

What am I missing?  :-k


I think the big ones were PC Engine, Mega Drive, Super Famicom/SNES and Neo Geo.

With the Super Famicom I think an equal amount if not more SNES games were imported from the US, particularly the RPGs we didn't get here. I think this was due to Super Play being the best selling video games magazine for a period and they heavily pushed RPGs.

Neo Geo surprises me because of the price, but most of the grey importers stocked it. I don't think they actually sold many, just had token selection in stock.

With Gameboy it was definitely crazy popular, but can't remember whether it was imported or pal releases. I know you had those knock off multi carts from Hong Kong that were a thing for a bit.


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Re: For those who grew up with imported pce in Europe
« Reply #87 on: March 29, 2017, 11:45:36 AM »
There was a lot of import Gameboy stuff at the start for sure, I guess primarily due to release dates being so far ahead in Japan back then. The magazines would review stuff like Rockman as soon as it was out on import and we didn't see a pal release for a long time after.

You're right about US imports for SNES RPG's but back then the US release dates on all SNES titles were a good while after Japan too. so when it came to the games that didn't require you to read the text, most places would stock Japanese carts until the US release was available at which point they'd switch to that.

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Re: For those who grew up with imported pce in Europe
« Reply #88 on: March 29, 2017, 02:21:07 PM »
In the US "importing" Neo games was usually pointless. With most games being released in all territories In every language on the same day for virtuality the same price there was no need to deal with actually importing it.  Of course, eventually the carts became so hard to get that the only places carrying them were...import shops. NCS would just ask you what language you wanted because they carried both US and JP.

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Re: For those who grew up with imported pce in Europe
« Reply #89 on: March 30, 2017, 12:03:41 AM »
As always, I love that these threads have grown and eclipsed over the years.

I really think that all of the info/scans/photos here is invaluable since you old bastards will soon be routinely forgetting what you had for lunch yesterday.

What I am most curious about: how, exactly, did U.K./US importers source the consoles/games? I have always been curious about that aspect of the business.
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