RGB SCART VS Component

[cdpog]

So I'm trying to decide which way I want to go for a modded Duo, either getting a RGB Scart, plugging it into a converter, then outputting HDMI to my LG flatscreen, OR getting a DUO that has Component outputs, and directly plugging into the component inputs on my tv.

Ive spent a good amount of time online looking, and while there is plenty of info about SCART vs composite, I dont see much about component.

So what is everyone opinions? How do you all do it?

Thanks!!!

[Johnpv]

You should make sure your tv can handle 240p content, not all LCDs or HDTVs can. 

As far as actually quality of the image the difference between RGB and component is minimal and most people would be really, really hard pressed to tell the difference.

The main thing is going to be making sure your tv can handle the 240p image from the Duo. 

[PunkicCyborg]

RGB would probably be the best option in the long run because upscalers for classic gaming will continue to use that as the best source quality for consoles. Component is a pretty much dead format now and some TVs don't like 240p component.
Another advantage to RGB is it's easy to switch over to a PVM if you ever wanted to go that route

[crazydean]

RGB with a Framemesiter is going to be your best bet. Just using component into your HDTV will still require scaling. Assuming that your tv will take the 240p signal, there's going to be some noticeable lag and picture issues. This is where an external converter comes in. It will typically do a much better job of upscaling the signal.

[cdpog]

so i just checked, and my tv can do 240p, so thats good if i end up going to component route.

however, it seems like you guys all are suggesting RGB might be the better bet. I have looked into the framemeister, but it seems to be impossible to find for less than 300 bucks. so that might have to wait.

so even without the upscaler, if I used something like this:
http://www.amazon.com/CKITZE-BG-460-System-Digital-Converter/dp/B00988GMLG/ref=pd_sim_147_5?ie=UTF8&dpID=41G1LHXLbaL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160%2C160_&refRID=1XA8M9ZS4K82G40CACQJ

would that look decent?

[Johnpv]

Component is a pretty much dead format now and some TVs don't like 240p component.
Another advantage to RGB is it's easy to switch over to a PVM if you ever wanted to go that route

Not really a dead format, since every tv still ships with component input.  S-Video, now that's a dead format. 

so i just checked, and my tv can do 240p, so thats good if i end up going to component route.

however, it seems like you guys all are suggesting RGB might be the better bet. I have looked into the framemeister, but it seems to be impossible to find for less than 300 bucks. so that might have to wait.

so even without the upscaler, if I used something like this:
http://www.amazon.com/CKITZE-BG-460-System-Digital-Converter/dp/B00988GMLG/ref=pd_sim_147_5?ie=UTF8&dpID=41G1LHXLbaL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160%2C160_&refRID=1XA8M9ZS4K82G40CACQJ

would that look decent?

Make sure it does 240p over component.  Some tvs will do 240p over composite, but freak out when given the same resolution over component.  Honestly your best option is to save up for a framemeister, which can take RGB or component.   Unfortunately most of these cheap upscalers/converters do a piss poor job at handling 240p content.  A lot of them introduce some SERIOUS input lag.  Some of them will even end up stretching the image and other weird shit to it.  Don't waste your money on one of those, save it up, put it towards a framemeister.   I know it's not what you want to hear, I've been there man.  I wasted money on stuff like this and it just wasn't worth it. 

Look at it this way if any of these things were a viable, valid solution, everyone would know it.  People have been trying and searching out cheaper alternatives to the XRGB series for years.  Unfortunately, just nothing out there compares. 

[Keith Courage]

Get one of these to convert scart RGB to HDMI http://www.ebay.com/itm/Scart-HDMI-To-HDMI-720P-1080PHD-Video-Converter-Monitor-FW1S-for-DVD-HDTV-STB-/381565861179?hash=item58d718fd3b:g:8m0AAOSwv9hW4Tuo

They work great.

RGB with this converter definitely looks better than component on my TVs.

[geise]

Get one of these to convert scart RGB to HDMI http://www.ebay.com/itm/Scart-HDMI-To-HDMI-720P-1080PHD-Video-Converter-Monitor-FW1S-for-DVD-HDTV-STB-/381565861179?hash=item58d718fd3b:g:8m0AAOSwv9hW4Tuo

They work great.

RGB with this converter definitely looks better than component on my TVs.

You notice any lag with that converter/upscaler?

[shabba]

Get one of these to convert scart RGB to HDMI http://www.ebay.com/itm/Scart-HDMI-To-HDMI-720P-1080PHD-Video-Converter-Monitor-FW1S-for-DVD-HDTV-STB-/381565861179?hash=item58d718fd3b:g:8m0AAOSwv9hW4Tuo

They work great.

RGB with this converter definitely looks better than component on my TVs.

I have this one being delivered today: http://www.amazon.com/Panlong-PL-SH2H-Converter-Upscaler-Consoles/dp/B00D86UYBS

I'll post about it. The reviews have been good overall and I can return it if it's a piece of crap. IF this doesn't do the job, I'll put aside for a Frameister. There just aren't any upscale units that compare for less money.

[Necromancer]

Other than branding, that looks identical to the one Keith posted on ebay. 

[shabba]

Other than branding, that looks identical to the one Keith posted on ebay. 

It probably is, but I have the one that uses composite and s-video. It's a total crapshoot but with a good return policy, I'm not worried.

[IvanBeavkov]

I'll throw my vote in for the less loved component video.

If you have a TV that can handle 240p with minimal lag I would go for that. Especially if you are going to hook up more than one console this way. I have an old JVC DLP TV that rocks 240p with minimal lag. (Model HD-56G786 if anyone cares.)

Remember there is more cost involved with RGB than just a Framemesiter, the cables are more expensive than plain RCA cables and if you are using more than one console you will probably want a SCART switch box as well. For me personally the quality improvement from component to RGB is not worth the cost.

You can use dirt cheap composite switch boxes for switching component, if you don't mind using 2 of them. (One for video and one for audio.) This is what I do and it works great.

But if you are just going to hook up 1 console and want the absolute best video possible then RGB to a Framemesiter or PVM is probably the way to go.

[ginoscope]

Get one of these to convert scart RGB to HDMI http://www.ebay.com/itm/Scart-HDMI-To-HDMI-720P-1080PHD-Video-Converter-Monitor-FW1S-for-DVD-HDTV-STB-/381565861179?hash=item58d718fd3b:g:8m0AAOSwv9hW4Tuo

They work great.

RGB with this converter definitely looks better than component on my TVs.

You notice any lag with that converter/upscaler?

I noticed just a little bit of lag when I used this with shooters like final zone 2 and gates of thunder and I was getting killed.

When I played the same games on my CRT with s-video all of a sudden I was playing way better.  Could be the lag or it could have been that I got better...betting on lag lol.   Just depends what game you play really.

For the price it is not a bad box versus the price of the XRGB mini.

[aurbina]

You can try using the 240p test suite to evaluate it and lag,  using your crt, composite, RGB, your hdtv and a camera.

It is available as Rom and cd.

[tbone3969]

You can try using the 240p test suite to evaluate it and lag,  using your crt, composite, RGB, your hdtv and a camera.

It is available as Rom and cd.

This 240p test suite sounds interesting.  I have an old 4:3 PC monitor I found with VGA, S-video, and HDMI input.  It seems to have zero lag to me which I find hard to believe.  I use the S-video connection most of the time.  I think there isn't any lag because it doesn't apply filters or upscaling to the image.  It's truly a raw feed.  Who knows?  Only way to know for sure is to test the lag I guess.

So I just burn the test suite to a CD and pop it in my DUO?