RGB SCART VS Component

[Keith Courage]

Get one of these to convert scart RGB to HDMI http://www.ebay.com/itm/Scart-HDMI-To-HDMI-720P-1080PHD-Video-Converter-Monitor-FW1S-for-DVD-HDTV-STB-/381565861179?hash=item58d718fd3b:g:8m0AAOSwv9hW4Tuo

They work great.

RGB with this converter definitely looks better than component on my TVs.

You notice any lag with that converter/upscaler?

I noticed just a little bit of lag when I used this with shooters like final zone 2 and gates of thunder and I was getting killed.

When I played the same games on my CRT with s-video all of a sudden I was playing way better.  Could be the lag or it could have been that I got better...betting on lag lol.   Just depends what game you play really.

For the price it is not a bad box versus the price of the XRGB mini.

I do experience a little bit of flag as well on my flat screen t_v using this converter. However, the same t_v will accept component but that also lags the same amount so I actually think it's the t_v and not the converter.

[aurbina]

So I just burn the test suite to a CD and pop it in my DUO?

That's right, use the system card 3 version so it never loads again.

[shabba]

Get one of these to convert scart RGB to HDMI http://www.ebay.com/itm/Scart-HDMI-To-HDMI-720P-1080PHD-Video-Converter-Monitor-FW1S-for-DVD-HDTV-STB-/381565861179?hash=item58d718fd3b:g:8m0AAOSwv9hW4Tuo

They work great.

RGB with this converter definitely looks better than component on my TVs.

I have this one being delivered today: http://www.amazon.com/Panlong-PL-SH2H-Converter-Upscaler-Consoles/dp/B00D86UYBS

I'll post about it. The reviews have been good overall and I can return it if it's a piece of crap. IF this doesn't do the job, I'll put aside for a Frameister. There just aren't any upscale units that compare for less money.

It arrived tonight and I immediately set it up. With the Duo-R, it looks like absolute shit with S-video and even worse with the composite. I'm going to try it with my SNES and a couple of other devices/consoles, but in the meantime, I fooled around with my modern tv, a Sony KDL-40VL160, and found that with some tinkering, it will set itself to 4:3 when using the s-video jack. It apparently also accepts 240p as the picture is astounding. I still have the old SD TV downstairs I had years back with my TG-16 and DUO, so I'm going to hook this up to that and see if my eyes are fooling me, but this flat-screen is doing a remarkable job of upscaling on it's own.

As far as the scaler goes that I bought, if there is nothing it can do for my SNES, it's going back. I'll do nothing else at that point until I can purchase a framemeister which, if tonight is any indication, I might not need.

EDIT: The unit has adjustments built in, btw, for a few different resolutions from 480p to 1080p and it will adjust automatically for Pal or NTSC. The one I have here upscales composite and s-video to "full HD". Just an FYI.

[cdpog]

Get one of these to convert scart RGB to HDMI http://www.ebay.com/itm/Scart-HDMI-To-HDMI-720P-1080PHD-Video-Converter-Monitor-FW1S-for-DVD-HDTV-STB-/381565861179?hash=item58d718fd3b:g:8m0AAOSwv9hW4Tuo

They work great.

RGB with this converter definitely looks better than component on my TVs.

I have this one being delivered today: http://www.amazon.com/Panlong-PL-SH2H-Converter-Upscaler-Consoles/dp/B00D86UYBS

I'll post about it. The reviews have been good overall and I can return it if it's a piece of crap. IF this doesn't do the job, I'll put aside for a Frameister. There just aren't any upscale units that compare for less money.

It arrived tonight and I immediately set it up. With the Duo-R, it looks like absolute shit with S-video and even worse with the composite. I'm going to try it with my SNES and a couple of other devices/consoles, but in the meantime, I fooled around with my modern tv, a Sony KDL-40VL160, and found that with some tinkering, it will set itself to 4:3 when using the s-video jack. It apparently also accepts 240p as the picture is astounding. I still have the old SD TV downstairs I had years back with my TG-16 and DUO, so I'm going to hook this up to that and see if my eyes are fooling me, but this flat-screen is doing a remarkable job of upscaling on it's own.

As far as the scaler goes that I bought, if there is nothing it can do for my SNES, it's going back. I'll do nothing else at that point until I can purchase a framemeister which, if tonight is any indication, I might not need.

EDIT: The unit has adjustments built in, btw, for a few different resolutions from 480p to 1080p and it will adjust automatically for Pal or NTSC. The one I have here upscales composite and s-video to "full HD". Just an FYI.

DANG. so what youre saying is now you'll be saving up for the framemeister then?

[crazydean]

There's a reason the Framemeister is so popular. It does its job well.

Personally, I am happy I went the PVM/BVM route. It's cheaper than the framemeister, and best of all, it allows me to have as many systems as I want since the BVM doesn't belong in common areas. I don't think my wife would be happy about having a dozen game systems in the living room.

[shabba]

DANG. so what youre saying is now you'll be saving up for the framemeister then?

Yes.

[shabba]

Ok I have been through the house, used all 3 TV's and hooked up the Duo-R, a SNES and a Saturn. Absolutely none of them work through this device on either of my modern HD televisions. The Sony I have here, my 40 inch, is a good bit nicer than my newer but bigger Samsung, a 52 inch. It shows as the TV supports 240p and will adjust for 4:3 automatically. The Samsung also supports 240p but has to be forced into 4:3. Regardless, none of the systems worked on the new tv's but looked the part on my old Samsung HDTV/SDTV tube telly, the one I used for years to play my stuff on. It's a 32 inch and I can watch TV on it right now in 1080i or 720p through component. My Sony is upstairs hooked to my desktop office/gaming computer and in the need for more space, I want to get rid of the old Samsung. My plan is to make my office space into my area where I can work, play games, beat off. My wife wants to make the 3rd bedroom into a, well, 3rd bedroom, so the old TV needs to go. Long story, sorry.

This Sony flat screen has s-video and it's perfect for my Duo-R. It looks as good as the old Samsung, but most of my consoles don't have s-video on them. My Duo-R has the mod from Keith Courage. It seems that the Framemeister is my only choice that will allow me the most flexibility.

Anyone have one for cheap? 

[IvanBeavkov]

Shabba,

If all you need is S-Video here you go:

SNES Cable for less than $4
http://www.ebay.com/itm/S-Video-Cable-for-SNES-N64-Gamecube-NGC-Nintendo-64-NTSC-/251953120314?_trksid=p2141725.m3641.l6368

Saturn Cable for less than $7
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Gold-Plated-SAV-RCA-Video-Audio-Composite-Cable-for-Sega-Saturn-S-Video-AV-/300953394281?hash=item4612385c69:g:zO4AAOxym2BSF-e-

[Black Tiger]

The only SNES s-video cable I've used that didn't have rolling bars or other distortion is a Monster brand Gamecube cable.

[shabba]

Shabba,

If all you need is S-Video here you go:

SNES Cable for less than $4
http://www.ebay.com/itm/S-Video-Cable-for-SNES-N64-Gamecube-NGC-Nintendo-64-NTSC-/251953120314?_trksid=p2141725.m3641.l6368

Saturn Cable for less than $7
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Gold-Plated-SAV-RCA-Video-Audio-Composite-Cable-for-Sega-Saturn-S-Video-AV-/300953394281?hash=item4612385c69:g:zO4AAOxym2BSF-e-

Thanks for that. I don't think I'm too worried about it yet but with the pending loss of my old TV, I'm just a little concerned about playing my old consoles on a newer TV. I'm fortunate that this Sony has S-video at all. But one day, I might not have this one either and I'd just like to have an option which is where the Framemeister comes into play.

Sorry for that long story. I was really just kind of talking out loud and got way off the original topic. To sum up all of my posts, thumbs down on the Panlong HDMI upscaler.

[Groover]

I would say RGB SCART with a Framemeister a great choice for a modern TV. Also RGB SCART is good for PVM and BVM as well. Component alone while a good second choice it alone will not be a good solution for a modern tv. Cheap scalers are just that. But hey what ever works for you. I really like RGB SCART. I have about 5 to 6 systems on RGB SCART. TG16/PCE looks great with a RGB mod. I love my Duo-R with the RGB mod.

[Keith Courage]

How and why are you using that upscaler/converter for composite and s-video when it is designed to take a rgb scart input and then output HDMI?

[Bloufo]

Get one of these to convert scart RGB to HDMI http://www.ebay.com/itm/Scart-HDMI-To-HDMI-720P-1080PHD-Video-Converter-Monitor-FW1S-for-DVD-HDTV-STB-/381565861179?hash=item58d718fd3b:g:8m0AAOSwv9hW4Tuo

They work great.

RGB with this converter definitely looks better than component on my TVs.

Would you recommend those over the RGB SCART to Component converters?
I'm speaking specifically of this one: http://www.amazon.com/SPECIALTY-AV-SCART-Component-Converter-Genesis/dp/B004XSSDPO

[Keith Courage]

I've never used one of those myself but I have spoken with others who use that particular one with no issues. It all depends on how the scart connection is wired. meaning, if it is set up to run the audio through the scart cable then using the component video converter wont give you any audio since it only converts a video signal.

[blueraven]

I'm currently installing and RGB amp (on the bench tonight) on a PCE Duo and will be running a 8PIN DIN to EuroSCART cable to a PVM 2030A.

The component mod is cool, but I've never done it, I went the PVM route instead of the plasma/framemeister route.

In the next week I'll have some more well informed opinions on this subject.