Would prefer to have been left out of this but I don't appreciate being mocked by you. You are just mad that Tobias stole your work. You seem to feel it's OK to steal and sell other people's work as long as it's not yours.
I have no love for Tobias, his repros, or any repros and yes some of you are hypocrites. Smoke monster got torn a new one for including roms on some Everdrives he was selling which is similar to this.
Too bad! You earned the mocking, so that's tough! You decided to enter this debate by exploiting support for turbokon/Steve versus hate of Tobias to levy a shoddy hypocrisy criticism (which you did again in this post) that reduces/removes history/context/nuisances. It's an unjust simplification so you and others can pretend you have valid/fair comparisons. You don't get to tell people in the future to conveniently leave you out when you make stupid comments on here in other threads!
Now you wanna cry for and are butthurt about SmokeMonster (keeping tabs on who gets roasted here?), who got "torn a new one" NOT for what you say, but deliberate omission of information in his eBay listing which led to a $359 purchase by someone for something he could've bought for $79 plus $11-$20 in plastic. The fact that he threw in the ROM collection to up the value is totally a side related issue (
I didn't care about that, take that up with those that did!), so pretending that was somehow the main reason he was criticized is a damn lie! That was wholly about getting ripped off, imagine later finding out you could buy TE from krik at $79, the ROM collection had little to do with it and I didn't even notice that till others did!
https://www.pcenginefx.com/forums/index.php?topic=19095.msg415410#msg415410Quote: "SmokeMonster is a predator of low-information big-spending fools and I also don't get why he wasted Tucci's time on the buddy deal for one flashcart from our group buy..."
That was classic reseller scamming relying on buyers [ignorance] not knowing the distributor (krik in this case) or wherever the source products were purchased from. I don't like to see it, and I stand by every damn word I wrote about him/the situation! The fact that you would try to defend him again in light of this says a lot about where you're coming from!
So once again, mickris, and these other guys here with grudges on our reseller criticism and whatever else is the source of their grudge, practice deliberate misinformation/simplification to make false comparisons at every turn to score points!
You are just mad that Tobias stole your work. You seem to feel it's OK to steal and sell other people's work as long as it's not yours.
"RAWR, I got you! You see, I'm smart!!! Durrrrrr!" Once again, a simplistic, false reduction, a lie basically and self-neutralizing hypocrisy.
The situations are not as simplistic as you'd like them to be for the purposes of your argument.
1) Getting permission from the videogame developers/publishers equals a $10k-$15k license fee, the need for a Japanese/English translator to make the deal, and so it's likely never going to happen for the common Joe Schmoe Tobias, not without Kickstarter projects and the like (and it'd have to be a really good game for that to succeed)... Bootlegs would never happen if everyone believed you must get that paid license before doing so. That's assuming you could even reach the right people in the company!
2) There's technical legality, and then the morality of it. As bootlegs usually deal with abandonware games, the developers/publishers will have sold out of all/most copies, everybody already got paid, the programmers, the publishers, etc. They made most/all of the money they're ever going to make for the now defunct/orphaned console platform. So, what is the level of moral harm for unlicensed reprints of manuals, games, etc. for abandoned consoles when they can be downloaded every day for free on the Internet right now ?? Very little to none. And that rationale is why bootlegs are made and why a Tobias doesn't bootleg a new PS4 game or what you have.
3) The difference between me, or any other fan translation team is, I/we didn't get paid for anything, I wouldn't demand a $10-$15k license fee for a reprint, you don't need a Japanese/English translator to talk business with me, my email has always been available so YOU COULD reasonably contact me before taking my work and slapping it on your reprint for your bootleg business... Not that I'd be willingly on board in Tobias' case given Sapphire-Gate, him being a lying fraudster, etc.
So yes, you essentially compare the mostly impossible, getting a license from the Japanese company, versus the possible, getting permission from the fan translation team as an excuse for Tobias and other bootleggers to not bother getting permission from ANYBODY (hey, just don't bother!) so he can get to pocket 100% of the net earnings! He appreciates your argument BTW, the "just f--k it" aspect of it... And nothing original about it, you and other crybabies who feel guilty use this argument to defend the slapping of fan work on reprints, I've heard/seen it before on the Facebook groups.
4) You're your own self-neutralizing hypocrite if you ever downloaded music/games/movies/software, and you seem to feel it's OK to steal other people's work, as long as it's not yours and as long as it's stolen for free and not resold in plastic... That is, unless you wanna lie, here and now, and claim that your hands are clean, and that you've never downloaded anything illegal/unlicensed, ROMs or whatever, etc... You might as well add more lying to your record, you already have, chief!
5) Of course I'm gonna have more of a connection to my own work, my usage terms violated, as opposed to some far off company in Japan that SOLD OUT copies of the games in question and no longer deals with or cares about the defunct console platform they were made for... They have bigger concerns, if at all, and that is the pirating networks which distribute the games by the millions daily, and 500 new pieces of plastic doesn't come close to be worth caring about when you can't shutdown the daily pirating!
Anyway, it's not even about protecting the company's "potential" reprinting and reprofitting on retro games for you [which is not going to happen], what you want is just to childishly neutralize reseller critics here via an overplayed and shoddy hypocrisy angle given your grudge... I'm not really buying your denials about Tobias either, which are done for the sake of credibility in your argument...
