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Re: horizontal vs vertical shmups
« Reply #30 on: April 18, 2016, 03:26:28 AM »
I don't really have a preference for either horizontal or vertical shewties (or whatever you'd call fixed screen games like Meteor Blaster DX or Space Invaders).  I've got favorites in both camps, but my skillz are meager no matter which way the screen scrolls.
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Re: horizontal vs vertical shmups
« Reply #31 on: April 18, 2016, 11:34:59 AM »
I find it hard to equate one specific type of shooter to it being more difficult than another, because there are certainly exceptions within each.

Though to answer the question, I think I like horizontal shooters slightly more, mainly because Gate of Thunder is such a great game. 

But Salamander is the best shooter because you get the best of both worlds :mrgreen:

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Re: horizontal vs vertical shmups
« Reply #32 on: April 18, 2016, 12:01:42 PM »
I love VHD shoot-em-ups.
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Re: horizontal vs vertical shmups
« Reply #33 on: April 18, 2016, 12:18:07 PM »
Please use the current term which is "hori", saying horizontal is so dated.

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I've just looked it up and actually the Schumps forum glossary says it's “Horzie”.
http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=11882&p=1083937#p1083937

Quote from: Schumps Glossary
Horizontal Shmup: ( also Side-Scroller) “Horzie” for short. A shmup where the action progresses, via background scrolling, from left to right, and is generally seen from a “side view” by the player.




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Re: horizontal vs vertical shmups
« Reply #34 on: April 18, 2016, 12:25:31 PM »
Please use the current term which is "hori", saying horizontal is so dated.

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I've just looked it up and actually the Schumps forum glossary says it's “Horzie”.
http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=11882&p=1083937#p1083937

Quote from: Schumps Glossary
Horizontal Shmup: ( also Side-Scroller) “Horzie” for short. A shmup where the action progresses, via background scrolling, from left to right, and is generally seen from a “side view” by the player.



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Re: horizontal vs vertical shmups
« Reply #35 on: April 18, 2016, 01:14:33 PM »
Please use the current term which is "hori", saying horizontal is so dated.

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I've just looked it up and actually the Schumps forum glossary says it's “Horzie”.
http://shmups.system11.org/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=11882&p=1083937#p1083937

Quote from: Schumps Glossary
Horizontal Shmup: ( also Side-Scroller) “Horzie” for short. A shmup where the action progresses, via background scrolling, from left to right, and is generally seen from a “side view” by the player.






These are people who do not enjoy shooters and are just trying to taint the experience for others.

What is the hip term for vertical, "Vercies"?
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Re: horizontal vs vertical shmups
« Reply #36 on: April 18, 2016, 02:02:17 PM »
What is the hip term for vertical, "Vercies"?

I always say "Vert" shooters, but that's a carryover from my skateboarding days.
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Re: horizontal vs vertical shmups
« Reply #37 on: April 18, 2016, 02:42:52 PM »
Isn't shmup an abbreviation for shoot-em-up?  Because the other big genre during the period were Final Fight type games, formerly referred to as beat-em-ups?

I don't really dislike shmup, I am more disappointed by the lack of the term bemup.

I suppose the main difference would be that I've never heard anyone who wasn't a grandpa or British use the term "shoot-em-up" to describe a 2D scrolling shooter. Ever. "Beat-em-up" honestly became a good term to use after Street Fighter II, to distinguish one on one Vs games from ones where you and a friend team up to waste 367 dudes in 20 minutes.

As for "shewtee" or whatever. I don't care. It's just another infantile PCEFX term, I can handle it. Unlike "shmup" (honestly, I can't even type that word without swearing under my breath). "Shmup" is all over the Internet. Also, as unsuccessfully cute as fans of "shootie" (whatever) can be, none of them, and this is important, think that it's a real word, the standard term for something. They all know the f*cking things are called shooters.

Has anyone ever counted all the times EGM, Diehard, etc used the term "shmup" during the genre's glory days? (Or let's say from EGM#1 to the last issue of Gamefan)? I'm betting it's zero, or extremely close to it. Maybe a Brittish staffer or someone using it in quotes.

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horizontal vs vertical shmups
« Reply #38 on: April 18, 2016, 02:46:20 PM »
Shoo.
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Isn't shmup an abbreviation for shoot-em-up?  Because the other big genre during the period were Final Fight type games, formerly referred to as beat-em-ups?

I don't really dislike shmup, I am more disappointed by the lack of the term bemup.

I suppose the main difference would be that I've never heard anyone who wasn't a grandpa or British use the term "shoot-em-up" to describe a 2D scrolling shooter. Ever. "Beat-em-up" honestly became a good term to use after Street Fighter II, to distinguish one on one Vs games from ones where you and a friend team up to waste 367 dudes in 20 minutes.

As for "shewtee" or whatever. I don't care. It's just another infantile PCEFX term, I can handle it. Unlike "shmup" (honestly, I can't even type that word without swearing under my breath). "Shmup" is all over the Internet. Also, as unsuccessfully cute as fans of "shootie" (whatever) can be, none of them, and this is important, think that it's a real word, the standard term for something. They all know the f*cking things are called shooters.

Has anyone ever counted all the times EGM, Diehard, etc used the term "shmup" during the genre's glory days? (Or let's say from EGM#1 to the last issue of Gamefan)? I'm betting it's zero, or extremely close to it. Maybe a Brittish staffer or someone using it in quotes.

I think that shmup was a British term, but that would be based on reading a FAQ over at shmups.co.uk.britannia.faulkland.com 10-15 years ago...

I actually don't mind shootie/shewtie/sheedy,ally as a shortening of "shooter"

And "shoot-em-up" has an appealing "Hollywood gangster film from 1930's" flair that I can't deny.

Of course, it probably best fits the Western (as a genre of film), but I have never been the biggest fan of Westerns.

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Re: horizontal vs vertical shmups
« Reply #39 on: April 18, 2016, 03:37:08 PM »
shame that pc engine game don't have tate mode for vertical  shooters

has any one tried tate mode with their TV rotated?

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Re: horizontal vs vertical shmups
« Reply #40 on: April 18, 2016, 04:06:12 PM »
As for "shewtee" or whatever. I don't care. It's just another infantile PCEFX term, I can handle it. Unlike "shmup"

heh, sounds good. Ironically, I completely agree. As far as it being "infantile", well it is techinically a hipster term. :lol: :lol:

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Re: horizontal vs vertical shmups
« Reply #41 on: April 18, 2016, 05:29:28 PM »
I get annoyed in horishewters that spend too much time making you dodge terrain.   Just let me blow shit up.

f*ck off with your walls and volcanos, Gradius.


Rabio Lepus and Paranoia are great though.

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Vertical always emphasizes blowing shits tits off.   I prefer this

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Re: horizontal vs vertical shmups
« Reply #42 on: May 17, 2016, 10:00:04 AM »
I would say I'm pretty average at both. My biggest problem is usually the bullet color, if it blends in to the backgrounds it makes the game harder for me.

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Re: horizontal vs vertical shmups
« Reply #43 on: May 18, 2016, 04:26:37 AM »
Chooter is life.

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Also, Salamander is the best of both worlds.  Verti Schumps and Hori Schumps all in one!

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Re: horizontal vs vertical shmups
« Reply #44 on: June 13, 2016, 07:24:56 PM »
Same as the rest of you fine folks, I find vertical shoot em ups a bit easier than the horizontal, despite the fact that I enjoy playing the horizontal ones much more.  Curious why everybody seems to be of the same opinion, wonder if it's tracking bullets as mentioned, or something about the gameplay or even weapon powerups in the vertical ones.  Certainly seems easier to fill a screen with shrapnel when scrolling from below!