Author Topic: horizontal vs vertical shmups  (Read 1527 times)

StarDust4Ever

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Re: horizontal vs vertical shmups
« Reply #45 on: June 17, 2016, 12:59:38 AM »
I think vertical orientation is my fav, though it depends on the game. I enjoy both simple retro arcade style single screen as well as scrollers with continuous barrages of enemies. I agree terrains get in the way of horizontal shooters. I already have to dodge bullets and enemies; don't make me dodge static land masses, buildings, navigate narrow caves or other obstacles. Games like Blazing Lazers, Super Star Soldier are awesome due to their symmetry, openness, and the fact vertical orientation really puts you in the cockpit. If vertical shooters had one disadvantage, it's that you can't rotate that sweet widescreen on it's side and play them upright with an extended playfield.

But I also have a soft spot for Cute-Em-Ups. Parodius I am a huge fan and own all three Super Famicom titles. Am I allowed to say that here? Air Zonk, Magical Chase are also great despite being all horizontal. It's really all about mechanics, pacing, enemy density, and making good use of screen space.

As for usage of the word SHMUP, I rather use it than shooter, because when someone says shooter, people immediately think fps dual stick type stuff. I loathe that crap. In the same way, beatemups (1 vs world) is a distintive genre from fighters (1 vs 1). Shootie just sounds dumb, and I've never heard that term before, but I don't keep up with twatter and facepalm. I bet a millenial coined it. Sounds like something a Justin Beiber or Miley Sirus would say...

Regardless, I'm quite fond of the way Shmup rolls off my tougue when pronounced phonetically. Not many English words combine the sh and m constanants, but it works!

MNKyDeth

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Re: horizontal vs vertical shmups
« Reply #46 on: June 17, 2016, 01:16:36 AM »
As for usage of the word SHMUP, I rather use it than shooter, because when someone says shooter, people immediately think fps dual stick type stuff. I loathe that crap. In the same way, beatemups (1 vs world) is a distintive genre from fighters (1 vs 1). Shootie just sounds dumb, and I've never heard that term before, but I don't keep up with twatter and facepalm. I bet a millenial coined it. Sounds like something a Justin Beiber or Miley Sirus would say...

I don't like the word shmup but if I am being honest I have used it before. I definately prefer calling horizontal and vertical shooters.... "shooters".

When I hear the word shooters I think side scrolling first but am open to vertical when I see it. When I hear FPS, I think of keyboard, mouse. But I also feel any FPS style game on a console is an abomination unless you go all the way back to Doom, where this type of game actually played ok on the N64 and back. Get any more modern with the controller in an FPS and everything goes to shit, imo. At that point I need a keyboard and mouse and nothing else will do.

Btw, I love both vertical and horizontal but I am not real fond of bullet hell style shooters.

esteban

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horizontal vs vertical shmups
« Reply #47 on: June 19, 2016, 01:24:10 AM »
Note: I don't mind physical obstacles in my shewties. I like the extra element.

Note: Some vertical chutees corral you (think Life Force NES and Armed Formation F) into choosing paths and avoiding walls/obstacles during segments of the stages.

Note: It is interesting that horizontal shootees were much more likely to have deadly physical environments. I think it shows how powerful established norms can be. Publishers felt more comfortable with successful formulas...sure, there was some experimentation...but the vertical/horizontal sub-genres were narrowly defined for vast array of arcade/8-bit/16-bit games.

Regardless, I love the early era of schüdeez, no matter how predictable and hackneyed they may be.
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Re: horizontal vs vertical shmups
« Reply #48 on: June 19, 2016, 03:51:52 AM »
They're all STG.

No, not Strike Gunner.

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Re: horizontal vs vertical shmups
« Reply #49 on: June 19, 2016, 06:42:29 AM »
They're all STG.

No, not Strike Gunner.

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esteban

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Re: horizontal vs vertical shmups
« Reply #50 on: June 19, 2016, 07:18:06 AM »
They're all STG.

No, not Strike Gunner.

Shootingu Geimu.

SHT is preferred.

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