Trolling a$$hole collectors

[dallaspattern]

This is pretty amazing, wonder if he'd drop the MC bomb on that turd who's been listing a boxed copy on ebay for 100K these past few months

[IvanBeavkov]

Here is a little more info for anyone who doesn't want to watch the video.

There is a game collector named Tim Atwood who bought a lot of 6 game cases of sealed NES games back in the early 90's when they were being liquidated. Apparently he was getting annoyed at people inflating the price of games by trying to corner the market on them and has decided to sell off some/all of his sealed games to crash the market.

Here is a like to his sold listings: Tim Atwood's Ebay Listings

Apparently he had to pull some of his listings because he was advertising selling Stadium Events in them.

There is also some drama going on over at Nintendo Age about this as well.
Thread 1: After years of waiting...it is here and it's beautiful! Nothing to see here, just a case of Stadium Events
Thread 2: I guess ole Atwood wasn't telling the truth..... Stadium Events games will be for sale

Here is a list of the cases of sealed games Tim says he has.

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TITLE  [CASES]  (TOTAL GAMES)
1942 [1] (6)
3D World Runner [1] (6)
Alfred Chicken [1] (6)
Balloon Fight [1] (6)
Barbie [1] (6)
Baseball [1] (6)
Baseball Stars 2 [1] (6)
Best Of The Best Championship Karate [1] (6)
Battletoads & Double Dragon [2] (12)
Blaster Master [1] (6)
Blues Brothers [1] (6)
Bonk's Adventure 3 18
Bomberman 2 [1] (6)
Breakthru [1] (6)
Bubble Bobble [1] (6)
Bubble Bobble 2 [2] (12)
Bubble Bobble: Rainbow Island [2] (12)
Bucky O'Hare [1] (6)
Bugs Bunny Crazy Castle [1] (6)
Burai Fighter [2] (12)
Casino Kid II [2] (12)
Castelian [1] (6)
Castlevania [2] (12)
Castlevania II [1] (6)
Castlevania III [1] (6)
Championship Bowling [1] (6)
Championship Pool [1] (6)
Chip And Dale Rescue Rangers [1] (6)
Chip And Dale Rescue Rangers 2 [1] (6)
Contra [1] (6)
Contra Force [1] (6)
Chubby Cherub [1] (6)
Cliffhanger [2] (12)
Clu Clu Land [1] (6)
Color a Dinosaur [2] (12)
Cool World [1] (6)
Conan [1] (6)
Cowboy Kid [1] (6)
Crystalis [1] (6)
Darkwing Duck [1] (6)
Day Dreamin' Davey [1] (6)
Die Hard [1] (6)
Destiny Of An Emperor [1] (6)
Disney Talespin [1] (6)
Donkey Kong 3 [1] (6)
Donkey Kong Arcade [2] (12)
Donkey Kong Jr. [1] (6)
Donkey Kong Jr. Math [1] (6)
Dragon Warrior 2 [2] (12)
Dragon Warrior 3 [1] (6)
Dragon Warrior 4 [2] (12)
Double Dragon 3 [1] (6)
Duck Hunt [1] (6)
Duck Tales [1] (6)
Duck Tales 2 [2] (12)
Dungeon Magic [1] (6)
Dusty Diamond All Star Softball [1] (6)
Excitebike [2] (12)
Faria [1] (6)
Final Fantasy [1] (6)
Fire & Ice [1] (6)
Fist of the North Star [1] (6)
Flight Of The Intruder [1] (6)
Flintstones: Rescue of Dino & Hoppy [3] (18)
Flintstones 2: Surprise at Dinosaur Peak [2] (12)
Freedom Force [1] (6)
Gargoyle's Quest 2 [1] (6)
Gemfire [1] (6)
Ghost & Goblins [2] (12)
Ghostbusters 2 [1] (6)
GI Joe Taxan [1] (6)
Gilligan's Island [1] (6)
Golf [1] (6)
Godzilla II [1] (6)
Gradius [1] (6)
Great Waldo Search [1] (6)
Guardian Legend [1] (6)
Guerrilla War [1] (6)
Gum Shoe [2] (12)
Gun Smoke [1] (6)
Gyromite [1] (6)
Hogans Alley [1] (6)
Home Alone II [1] (6)
Ice Climber [1] (6)
Ice Hockey [2] (12)
Ikari Warriors [2] (12)
Ikari Warriors 2 [1] (6)
Ikari Warriors 3 [1] (6)
Indiana Jones Last Crusades - UBISOFT [1] (6)
Iron Tank [1] (6)
Jimmy Connors Tennis [1] (6)
Jungle Book [2] (12)
Jurassic Park [1] (6)
Karnov [1] (6)
Kid Icarus [2] (12)
Kid Klown [2] (12)
Kid Kool [1] (6)
Kid Niki Radical Ninja [1] (6)
Kings Quest 5 [2] (12)
Kiwi Kraze [1] (6)
Krusty's Fun house [1] (6)
Kung Fu [2] (12)
Legacy Of The Wizard [1] (6)
Legend of Kage [1] (6)
Lemmings [1] (6)
Lethal Weapon [1] (6)
Lode Runner [1] (6)
Lone Ranger [1] (6)
Life Force [1] (6)
Little Sampson [2] (12)
MC Kids [2] (12)
Mach Rider [1] (6)
Magician [1] (6)
Mario Bros. Arcade [2] (12)
Mario Time Machine [2] (12)
Mega Man [2] (12)
Mega Man 2 [1] (6)
Mega Man 3 [1] (6)
Mega Man 4 [1] (6)
Mega Man 5 [1] (6)
Mega Man 6 [2] (12)
Metal Gear [1] (6)
Metal Gear Snakes Revenge [1] (6)
Metal Storm [1] (6)
Metroid [1] (6)
Mickey's Adventure in Numberland [1] (6)
Mickey Mousecapade [1] (6)
Mighty Bomb Jack [2] (12)
Mighty Final Fight [1] (6)
Mike Tyson Punchout [2] (12)
Monster In My Pocket [1] (6)
Motor City Patrol [1] (6)
M.U.S.C.L.E. [1] (6)
Ninja Gaiden 3 [1] (6)
Ninja Kid [1] (6)
Panic Resteraunt [2] (12)
Paperboy 2 [2] (12)
Peter Pan & the Pirates [1] (6)
Pirates [1] (6)
Popeye [1] (6)
Power Blade 2 [1] (6)
Power Punch 2 3 18
Prince Of Persia [1] (6)
Pro Sport Hockey [2] (12)
Rad Racer [1] (6)
Rally Bike [1] (6)
RC Pro Am [1] (6)
RC Pro Am II [1] (6)
Ren & Stimpy Buckaroos [1] (6)
Renegade [1] (6)
Rescue Rangers [2] (12)
Rescue Rangers 2 [1] (6)
River City Ransom [1] (6)
Robin Hood Prince of Thieves [2] (12)
Rockin Kats [1] (6)
Rocky and Bullwinkle [1] (6)
Romance of the Three Kingdoms [1] (6)
Romance of the Three Kingdoms II [1] (6)
Rygar [1] (6)
Sesame Street 123/ABC [1] (6)
Shadowgate 3 18
Slalom [1] (6)
Snake Rattle & Roll [1] (6)
Snakes Revenge [1] (6)
Snow Brothers [2] (12)
Soccer [2] (12)
Soloman's Key [1] (6)
Spelunker [1] (6)
Spy Hunter [2] (12)
Sqoon [3] (18)
Stadium Events [3] (18)
Star Force [1] (6)
Star Tropics 2 [2] (12)
Star Soldier [1] (6)
Stinger [1] (6)
Street Cop [1] (6)
Super C [1] (6)
Super Mario [1] (6)
Super Mario 2 [1] (6)
Super Mario 3 [1] (6)
Super Pitfall [1] (6)
Super Spy Hunter [1] (6)
Super Team Games [2] (12)
Swamp Thing [1] (6)
Target Renegade [1] (6)
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles III [1] (6)
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles Tournament Fighters [4] (24)
Tennis [1] (6)
Terra Cresta [1] (6)
The Jetsons [1] (6)
The Punisher [1] (6)
The Simpson's: Bartman Meets Radioactive Man [3] (18)
The Simpson's: Bart VS the Space Mutants [1] (6)
The Simpson's: Bart VS The World [2] (12)
Thunder & Lightning [2] (12)
Time Lord [2] (12)
To The Earth [2] (12)
Tom and Jerry [1] (6)
Ultima: Quest of the Avatar [1] (6)
Ultima: Warriors of Destiny [1] (6)
Unchartered Waters [1] (6)
Uninvited [2] (12)
Urban Champion [1] (6)
Volleyball [1] (6)
Wacky Races [1] (6)
Wario's Woods [1] (6)
Wally Bear [1] (6)
Wayne's World [1] (6)
Widget [1] (6)
Winter Games [1] (6)
Wild Gunman [1] (6)
Wrecking Crew [1] (6)
Zelda Gold [2] (12)
Zelda II Gold [2] (12)

[esteban]

This is awesome.



In my fantasy, an entire pallet of Magical Chase are discovered in someone's garage.

"I need a forklift just to get all this junk out of my garage!"

[esteban]

The links... (minor typo in Ivan's post)

Thread 1:
http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=5&threadid=159716

After years of waiting...it is here and it's beautiful! Nothing to see here, just a case of Stadium Events





Thread 2:
http://nintendoage.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=5&threadid=160831

I guess ole Atwood wasn't telling the truth..... Stadium Events games will be for sale

[sirhcman]

For some reason I just don't see this affecting prices much

[Necromancer]

Me neither.  Sure it'll hurt the value of Stadium Events (when was the last time you saw one sealed copy let alone eighteen?), but I can't see it doing much to more common games, especially not the market as a whole (including unsealed stuff).

LOL at the non-disclosure agreements people signed for the dozen copies he sold already.  Good luck enforcing 'em.

[TDIRunner]

Me neither.  Sure it'll hurt the value of Stadium Events (when was the last time you saw one sealed copy let alone eighteen?), but I can't see it doing much to more common games, especially not the market as a whole (including unsealed stuff).

LOL at the non-disclosure agreements people signed for the dozen copies he sold already.  Good luck enforcing 'em.

I don't think he has to enforce them too much since he hand picks the people he sells to.  The 12 copies that have supposedly been sold already happened a while ago, and the collecting community didn't know about them until just recently (and because of Tim rather than the buyers).

[TDIRunner]

Just got slightly more interesting.

Originally posted by: Bronty

 I see a lot of speculation about when and how these were purchased. I was told directly by Tim years ago that they were bought for $100/case, from an eBay score, back around 2005. You may notice that he's listed Bigfoot a couple times. That was bought on eBay at open auction for if my memory recalls $122. The rest were presumably shortly thereafter. Just a really great find on/off eBay is all there is to the story really, at least as far as I know and if Tims reading this and any part of that is wrong, please correct me. I think a find like that would be difficult to pull off today because the seller would be getting a lot of emails. Even back then it was hard to pull off, these days I'd imagine impossible
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http://www.atwoodcs.com/atwoodtm/1na-rant.html

[seieienbu]

For the life of me, I don't care an iota if the bottom drops out of a market that's so stupidly inflated.  The only people who would suffer are the very people making this hobby into a business and buying multiple copies of games on investment speculation. 

[Zero_Gamer]

Damn.... And people say this place has drama!

[esteban]

Just got slightly more interesting.

Originally posted by: Bronty

 I see a lot of speculation about when and how these were purchased. I was told directly by Tim years ago that they were bought for $100/case, from an eBay score, back around 2005. You may notice that he's listed Bigfoot a couple times. That was bought on eBay at open auction for if my memory recalls $122. The rest were presumably shortly thereafter. Just a really great find on/off eBay is all there is to the story really, at least as far as I know and if Tims reading this and any part of that is wrong, please correct me. I think a find like that would be difficult to pull off today because the seller would be getting a lot of emails. Even back then it was hard to pull off, these days I'd imagine impossible
****WARNING**** ****RATED R**** ****MATURE AUDIENCES ONLY**** ****RATED R**** ****WARNING****

http://www.atwoodcs.com/atwoodtm/1na-rant.html

I read the link at the bottom.

Pretty neat.

I like this Tim fellow.

This is crazy fun drama.

[TheClash603]

I can't tell if I like this guy after reading his link.

Pros
1.  He seems to be giving his friends deep discounts on games he got at a deep discount.
2.  He uses the term sucking dick like SJWs never existed.
3.  His free listing on ebay point is spot on.

Cons
1.  The mention of grading games ruining a hobby seems fairly hypocritical from a sealed game collector.  Also mentioning the guy buying up multiple copies while he himself has held these games for decades is ironic.
2.  It also seems like it is too easy for someone who purchased games at a steep discount with what appears to be a dumb luck find of the century to criticize those overpaying for games.
3. Even though it makes sense he doesn't want someone to flip a game he sells at a discount for profit, the NDA seems odd.

[schweaty]

1.  He bought the games sealed at least 15 years before vga grading was the first nail in the retro collecting coffin.  Additionally, we don't know that he was buying these games to create an artificial scarcity of supply like the other guy was.  I personally don't think that was his intention and my proof is all the other non-rare games he also bought cases of.
2.  How do you know it was dumb luck?  Maybe these deals were available to anyone that wanted them in the 90s, it was just that no one cared.  It would be like someone buying up all the vhs tapes today for pennies and 20 years later they become the hot collecting item.  Maybe he was a visionary?  Maybe he was just passionate about something when no one else was?
3.  Some people don't like making private sales public knowledge. 

I think my conclusions are my than likely closer to the truth than your cons are and any reasonable person would agree.  Not saying you are wrong, but I think your conclusions are less likely

[Zero_Gamer]

1.  He bought the games sealed at least 15 years before vga grading was the first nail in the retro collecting coffin.  Additionally, we don't know that he was buying these games to create an artificial scarcity of supply like the other guy was.  I personally don't think that was his intention and my proof is all the other non-rare games he also bought cases of.
2.  How do you know it was dumb luck?  Maybe these deals were available to anyone that wanted them in the 90s, it was just that no one cared.  It would be like someone buying up all the vhs tapes today for pennies and 20 years later they become the hot collecting item.  Maybe he was a visionary?  Maybe he was just passionate about something when no one else was?
3.  Some people don't like making private sales public knowledge. 

I think my conclusions are my than likely closer to the truth than your cons are and any reasonable person would agree.  Not saying you are wrong, but I think your conclusions are less likely

It's was a dumb luck find because he was on a job site cleaning out a warehouse and was told to trash everything. There was a pallet of sealed game cases in the warehouse and he decided to keep them.

[TheClash603]

1.  He bought the games sealed at least 15 years before vga grading was the first nail in the retro collecting coffin.  Additionally, we don't know that he was buying these games to create an artificial scarcity of supply like the other guy was.  I personally don't think that was his intention and my proof is all the other non-rare games he also bought cases of.
2.  How do you know it was dumb luck?  Maybe these deals were available to anyone that wanted them in the 90s, it was just that no one cared.  It would be like someone buying up all the vhs tapes today for pennies and 20 years later they become the hot collecting item.  Maybe he was a visionary?  Maybe he was just passionate about something when no one else was?
3.  Some people don't like making private sales public knowledge. 

I think my conclusions are my than likely closer to the truth than your cons are and any reasonable person would agree.  Not saying you are wrong, but I think your conclusions are less likely

It's was a dumb luck find because he was on a job site cleaning out a warehouse and was told to trash everything. There was a pallet of sealed game cases in the warehouse and he decided to keep them.

Ditto.

The ebay purchases for $100 each may have been good timing, or maybe he was one of the eBay F5 refresh originators.

In actuality, think that this guy is just like 95% of us, pretty good guy with some hypocritical views.  His views just have more weight because of his stash and Internet fame.  He doesn't appear to be an outright flipper jerk nor does he appear to be generous like Beamer or some of those around here, he's somewhere in the middle with the rest of us.