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atman

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CDROM2 glitches when warm.
« on: May 06, 2016, 08:01:33 PM »
Searched but could not find any similar problems.

I got the briefcase setup working yesterday thanks to Fidde_se.

The CD could very well read PCE games and played well. BUT, when I play for like 10min it will get unstable. It seems like it can read the games but the grapic will glitch out. Sometimes it will get stuck in a reading loop or someting and freezes.

When i reboot it will start up and so on, but works much worse than if its cold rebooted.

Whats is the problem, is it a weak laser?
Tried clean the connector with alcohol but no improvements.

Fidde_se

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Re: CDROM2 glitches when warm.
« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2016, 06:50:53 AM »
New caps and maybe a pot tweak on laser...

How's the gear?
GW/GB/GBP/GBL/GBC/GBA/GBASP/GBASP2/GBM/DS/DSL/DSiXL/3DS/PM/VB/FC/NES/SNES/N64/GC/Wii/PS/PSONE/PS2/PS2S/
SMS/SMS2/GG/NOM/MD/MD2/MD3/MD1CD/SS/DC/XB/XB360/NGP/NGPC/NGPC2/WS/WSC/CSW/PCEGT/PCE/PCECG1/PCECG2/
PCECD/TG16TE/NGAGE/GIZ/GP32/GP2XF1/GP2XF2/GP2XWIZ/GP2XCAN/DA320/ST520/ST1040/LNX/LNX2/JAG/PORT/CD32/A500/
C64/CDi/VMU/POCKSTN/PSP/PSPCFW/FDS/VSM

atman

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Re: CDROM2 glitches when warm.
« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2016, 06:58:18 AM »
The gear is new and alright.
Caps and calibration I have no clue. My guess is that caps is original.

Do you do recapping?


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Fidde_se

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Re: CDROM2 glitches when warm.
« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2016, 07:25:32 AM »
Yes, but can't swear on that it will fix it =)
GW/GB/GBP/GBL/GBC/GBA/GBASP/GBASP2/GBM/DS/DSL/DSiXL/3DS/PM/VB/FC/NES/SNES/N64/GC/Wii/PS/PSONE/PS2/PS2S/
SMS/SMS2/GG/NOM/MD/MD2/MD3/MD1CD/SS/DC/XB/XB360/NGP/NGPC/NGPC2/WS/WSC/CSW/PCEGT/PCE/PCECG1/PCECG2/
PCECD/TG16TE/NGAGE/GIZ/GP32/GP2XF1/GP2XF2/GP2XWIZ/GP2XCAN/DA320/ST520/ST1040/LNX/LNX2/JAG/PORT/CD32/A500/
C64/CDi/VMU/POCKSTN/PSP/PSPCFW/FDS/VSM

Keith Courage

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Re: CDROM2 glitches when warm.
« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2016, 07:39:45 AM »
 Most likely the CD drive just needs some potentiometer adjustment. This is usually the case if the CD drive works fine on a cold start but starts getting glitchy after it warms up.

atman

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Re: CDROM2 glitches when warm.
« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2016, 07:45:26 AM »
Thanks for the response.

Think I saw a tutorial here on pot adjustments. I will start with that.


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Keith Courage

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Re: CDROM2 glitches when warm.
« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2016, 12:01:50 PM »
generally any of these 3 pots(circled in red) could be the culprit. So try them first. Just try one at a time.  Rarely ever do the other two need to be changed.


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Re: CDROM2 glitches when warm.
« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2016, 05:33:17 PM »
Does the white pc engine looks the same?


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Keith Courage

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Re: CDROM2 glitches when warm.
« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2016, 05:55:53 PM »
Usually, sometimes the pots can be all black.  Either way same configuration.

atman

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Re: CDROM2 glitches when warm.
« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2016, 07:30:50 PM »
Does it matter if its a CD-R disc?

I mean, it seems like it can read the disc but it glitches. Thought if was any problems reading it would be noticed in the seeking..

Keith Courage

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Re: CDROM2 glitches when warm.
« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2016, 07:50:01 PM »
Not every Drive is created equal when it comes to reading a CDR discs. So no matter what you do, you could have some issues with them.  Not to mention,  a good majority of the Rips found online are not good.  Meaning they are glitchy and can cause issues. Also, a big factor can be what type of media you are using. I typically find that using something with a lighter green bottom on the disc works better with these systems then higher-quality discs with darker green bottoms do.

atman

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Re: CDROM2 glitches when warm.
« Reply #11 on: May 07, 2016, 07:54:31 PM »
OK, will get a original silver-disc and see if there is a difference. Might be best to start there and rule out things.

Heard that it might be better if using an old CD-Writer? They have more power or something?


Keith Courage

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Re: CDROM2 glitches when warm.
« Reply #12 on: May 08, 2016, 06:53:09 AM »
I've honestly heard this about using an old CD writer but I've never noticed a difference. As long as your CD burner can burn at ten times or slower that should be good enough.

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Re: CDROM2 glitches when warm.
« Reply #13 on: May 08, 2016, 08:52:47 AM »
I use this at the slowest it will go which is 8x, no problems
https://www.amazon.co.uk/LiteOn-IHAS124-14-SATA-Internal-DVDRW/dp/B00ERJXTE4

atman

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Re: CDROM2 glitches when warm.
« Reply #14 on: May 08, 2016, 10:00:57 PM »
I noticed when I adjusted the pots that the drive was quite warm. (Had the bottom on without screws to be able to test quickly)
Since I had trouble with my IFU I feed it with 10v directly, original is like.. 8V? The 7805 might be warmer than nessecary and cause the drive to get more sensitive.

Just a thought..

Anyways, I have adjusted the far right pot.  Well, it clicked a bit the first time i touched it. But its best in the position it was from the beginning. Also its much better, not 100%, but an improvement.

Will continue with pot tweaking..


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