Dumb Buyers

[Black Tiger]

The disc art is not "ugly". It's just text. "Plain" or "lame" is probably more accurate. It's downright Peter Savile by US Turbo art standards.

Not by existing CD2 disc label standards at the time. After the original CD disc style, it was all downhill.

The kinda-italic font on Ys and the spacing that makes it look like "Y s", the giant TM in a contrasting font, cobbled together with the Turbo DuoTM and CD-ROMROM logo is bad enough. Adding that shade of blue only ruins it further.

This isn't a generic TurboGrafx-16 demo disc, it's freaking Ys.







It's not worth a 50% premium, just the opposite. That's not evening taking into account the lack of a tray liner and a whit case that doesn't match the rest of your Turbo games.

[Necromancer]

But it matches Final Zone 2 and Valis 2..... 

[Zero_Gamer]

It came from the desert is the best looking disk. 😊

[StarDust4Ever]

The disc art is not "ugly". It's just text. "Plain" or "lame" is probably more accurate. It's downright Peter Savile by US Turbo art standards.

Not by existing CD2 disc label standards at the time. After the original CD disc style, it was all downhill.

The kinda-italic font on Ys and the spacing that makes it look like "Y s", the giant TM in a contrasting font, cobbled together with the Turbo DuoTM and CD-ROMROM logo is bad enough. Adding that shade of blue only ruins it further.

This isn't a generic TurboGrafx-16 demo disc, it's freaking Ys.







It's not worth a 50% premium, just the opposite. That's not evening taking into account the lack of a tray liner and a whit case that doesn't match the rest of your Turbo games.

I think the top disc looks nicer. Wish we could see the whole thing.

[Necromancer]

Wish we could see the whole thing.

The rest is as generic as the Duo pack-in:  http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/~bQAAOSwubRXNiz1/s-l1600.jpg

[Sarumaru]

Always thought the Duo disc looked like some early 90's Win 3.1 clip art disc. The original disc isn't anything spectacular either, but at least it's got the original logo making it more aesthetically pleasing. But really, it was all about Cosmic Fantasy 2 and Vasteel discs. Everything else looked like crap.

[wildfruit]

If you must have legitimate discs buy the jp ones and burn the English to play.  The art on Ys III jp is quite nice. It's also the easiest to play through with the language barrier. My jp is very basic, I don't know any kanji but I could muddle through some menus and just watched a YouTube video for anything I needed translated like essential text or spoken parts.

[StarDust4Ever]

Sometimes you can muddle through Japanese menus, but occasionally you pull a boner like deleting the save file or something.

A big part of RPG/Adventure games is the story line, which is lost if you can't read. Also NPC players tend to drop subtle clues as to what you are supposed to do in game, and if you can't read it, how will you know? It's why I'll never play the Japanese equivalent of games like Neutopia or Ys.

However platformers, SHMUPs, puzzlers, and fighters generally play fine without any knowledge of Japanese. Stuff like Bomberman is just as enjoyable in Japanese as it is in English for instance. Many Famicom, Super Famicom, and PC Engine games actually have menus that are at least partially in English so are import friendly.

[johnnykonami]

Always thought the Duo disc looked like some early 90's Win 3.1 clip art disc. The original disc isn't anything spectacular either, but at least it's got the original logo making it more aesthetically pleasing. But really, it was all about Cosmic Fantasy 2 and Vasteel discs. Everything else looked like crap.

Whatever screening process they used on the CF2 disc does look sweet.  I remember the Vasteel disc just had the heads of the two brothers on it or something and looked pretty bland, but I think it used the same process iirc.  I've always just had my Duo Ys disc and never felt the need to go after the original release.  The crappy typography is just nostalgic for me anyway!  Makes me think back to when I got my Duo and played the crap out of those discs.

[StarDust4Ever]

Always thought the Duo disc looked like some early 90's Win 3.1 clip art disc. The original disc isn't anything spectacular either, but at least it's got the original logo making it more aesthetically pleasing. But really, it was all about Cosmic Fantasy 2 and Vasteel discs. Everything else looked like crap.

Whatever screening process they used on the CF2 disc does look sweet.  I remember the Vasteel disc just had the heads of the two brothers on it or something and looked pretty bland, but I think it used the same process iirc.  I've always just had my Duo Ys disc and never felt the need to go after the original release.  The crappy typography is just nostalgic for me anyway!  Makes me think back to when I got my Duo and played the crap out of those discs.

I've noticed it too with like Game Cube Releases. Those earlier discs made in Japan would often be screen printed with two or three colors, then the Player's Choice variants came out with full color images. Screen printing can look really nice if done correctly, even with limited pallet.

[Black Tiger]

I really don't like that kind of thick coating that Lords of the Rising Sun, It Came From The Desrt, CF2, Vasteel, etc used.

If anything other than the original Turbo disc style was going to be done, they should have had stylized full color silk screens like Sidearms Special and Super Darius, which were my first CD games.

When I bought my first thick cover disc game (Lords of the Rising Sun?), I actually felt like I got less of a value and was thankful that it wouldn't be visible while playing the game

[Lost Monkey]

http://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/231946668223

I felt like a major a$$hole when mine got bid up to $50 a couple years ago...

[StarDust4Ever]

http://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/231946668223

I felt like a major a$$hole when mine got bid up to $50 a couple years ago...

You shouldn't feel bad. If you post an auction with a reasonably low starting bid, and the collectards get into a bidding frenzy and jack the price up beyond what most BINs are asking, you can't much blame yourself if it goes for more than it's worth.

I'm still kicking myself for not buying Neutopia last year for $60 BIN. Now that I've got a PC-Henshin (glad I ordered it when they were still 44 Brittish Pounds each) I've started buying up the games I really want to play as imports. Neutopia is one of the few games on my radar that's not import friendly. But I preordered the 2-in-1 repro from Turbokon with a clear conscience because I know it can't be mistaken for an original. Also getting a slick white Magical Chase! 

[Warbucks]

It seems like all the non-common games will eventually be $100 at this rate.

[SignOfZeta]

Well, as long as all these f*cking noobs keep showing up. Yeah. There are probably more noobs this year alone than there were in the entire TG-16 user base back in the day. Many TG-16 games used to just...sit there at the store, for months or years, and eventually go back to the main warehouse after never selling. You know, like any catagory of software in existence.

We have to get these kids laid, guys. It's the the only way to stem the tide. Also, your own kids. Tell them you love them and try to instill some kind of value system in your sons so that they don't all end up seaking external validation through a $6000 chip of plastic that smells like a library basement but only if you remove the plastic. 

Seriously, what kind of 22 year old in 2016 starts buying games older than him for hundreds of dollars each? What is even the draw for someone like that? And why can't he just collect 8 Track? It has a much better software selection.