Dumb Buyers

[martinine]

Yes! This so much Zeta!

Back to my Ys discussion earlier, I totally agree that the Duo pack in is at least less appealing because the lack of tray art. It still felt that $40-50 is a good value for either version of the game. I've never been able to find one or win an auction I was willing to pay. Awesome game! One of my all time favs, but I've only been able to play it emulated since I never had a CD drive when I was a kid. My bud had a Duo so I got the dreaded watch on Ys.

Speaking of watching your friends play games  That was always the worst when I was a kid, now it's such a hit on YouTube. Surreal.

[ChuChu Flamingo]

Thereseems to be no shortage of stupid buyers, and it keeps increasing at an alarming rate. What do you really expect when retro is "hip" now and ebay has "now trending" prices. 2011 prices and hell even a year or two ago look massively better than nowadays. Who knows if this bubble will ever burst.

[neopolss]

I think what I hate most is that the games have value at all.  I truly wish titles were worthless, so that we could buy and collect turbografx for the love of playing games on our system.  I wish I didnt have to use an everdrive, but my practical side tells me that these idiots will buy my games for stupid amounts, and I should let them.  For now.  I do believe that eventually, it will all collapse, and we will have our pick of the litter come that day.  I remember when NES games were dirt cheap, and buying a system and games for $20 was a thrill, with plenty of great titles to play for weeks.  Now a common copy of Mega Man is almost 100 bucks.  I really dont get it at all.  Guess Im playing mega man on everdrive for now, causing i have to shill my real copy to some loser.

[StarDust4Ever]

I think what I hate most is that the games have value at all.  I truly wish titles were worthless, so that we could buy and collect turbografx for the love of playing games on our system.  I wish I didnt have to use an everdrive, but my practical side tells me that these idiots will buy my games for stupid amounts, and I should let them.  For now.  I do believe that eventually, it will all collapse, and we will have our pick of the litter come that day.  I remember when NES games were dirt cheap, and buying a system and games for $20 was a thrill, with plenty of great titles to play for weeks.  Now a common copy of Mega Man is almost 100 bucks.  I really dont get it at all.  Guess Im playing mega man on everdrive for now, causing i have to shill my real copy to some loser.

Yeah it sucks. A lot of the price inflation is caused by poser collectors who want to collect a "complete set" or otherwise buy nice games just to have them as "shelf sitters" Kinda dumb if you ask me but at least if people think they have value, it won't go into a landfill.

Games used to be worthless and owners, as well as game stores with stagnant inventory just threw them out as trash until the larger supply equalized to the dwindling demand. Now we have the opposite, huge demand and little supply, hence games that were formerly worthless now sell for huge amounts.

On the one hand, the high prices is bad for the gamer but ultimately good for preservation because existing stock isn't just going straight into landfills. I do believe we are in a bubble so to speak. All the shelf collectors doing it because it's "in" or "cool" will eventually get bored and dump their stock, then prices will be reasonable once again. Just don't expect bargain basement prices like what existed around 2000. That would be unrealistic. Games are a part of history and will be appreciated until the end of time, whether they exist as physical media or just ROMs on someone's hard drive.

[rxmage]

Unfortunately, at the moment, if you want popular titles, you are going to have to almost start at $100 to get one.  Most likely, this isn't going to change any time soon.  Because of this, the Everdrive is definitely my friend.  However, there are some titles that have resonated with me and I want to own a physical copy.  The Neutopia series happens to be one.  As I joked around in a previous post, no one was willing to come forward and sell me copies in the $30 to $40 dollar range.  So, I dumbed down and recently paid a ridiculously stupid amount for them CIC.  Do I plan to continue throwing stupid amounts around to complete a collection?  No, there are only about 10 titles that I really want to have a physical copy of.  I have already picked some of those titles up by buying system lots and recapping the consoles and performing AV mods only to then flip them while keeping the games.  This has worked well for me, as I have obtained several titles for nothing out of pocket.  However, quite a few of the the titles on my list are probably not going to show up bundled with systems.  So, a fool and his money will shortly part ways. 

[esteban]

Unfortunately, at the moment, if you want popular titles, you are going to have to almost start at $100 to get one.  Most likely, this isn't going to change any time soon.  Because of this, the Everdrive is definitely my friend.  However, there are some titles that have resonated with me and I want to own a physical copy.  The Neutopia series happens to be one.  As I joked around in a previous post, no one was willing to come forward and sell me copies in the $30 to $40 dollar range.  So, I dumbed down and recently paid a ridiculously stupid amount for them CIC.  Do I plan to continue throwing stupid amounts around to complete a collection?  No, there are only about 10 titles that I really want to have a physical copy of.  I have already picked some of those titles up by buying system lots and recapping the consoles and performing AV mods only to then flip them while keeping the games.  This has worked well for me, as I have obtained several titles for nothing out of pocket.  However, quite a few of the the titles on my list are probably not going to show up bundled with systems.  So, a fool and his money will shortly part ways.

For a handful of games you really enjoy, I see no problem paying for them...but be an educated consumer and, as with anything, it is about a balance between frugality and extravagance.

Nobody is perfect. We are all guilty of indulging some sins.

Just don't become an addict, hooked on an absurdly expensive habit.

Unless you are a rich bastard. Then the world is your oyster. Or cloister. Or whatever.

[StarDust4Ever]

Yup sucks. Not everyone was born to dine on caviar. But personally I find Turbografx games a lot more palatable than fish eggs.

That said, I bought a PC-Henshin adapter last year and do not regret it. Aside from Neutpia and a few others, most of the games are available on PC Engine and many are on par with Super Famicom / Mega Drive prices. I'm also getting Neutopia I+II and Magical Chase repros. And if you don't already have one, an Everdrive is a must!

I picked up a card only Air Zonk last year for $73 shipped. Now when I see prices like this, $132, I want to cry.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/182141112385

CIC Air Zonk in case presumably with repro end label (looking good so far but I bet it ends higher than the last one):
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Air-Zonk-TurboGrafx-16-1992-Jewel-Case-Manual-And-Game/322116957958

[Black Tiger]

I think what I hate most is that the games have value at all.  I truly wish titles were worthless, so that we could buy and collect turbografx for the love of playing games on our system.  I wish I didnt have to use an everdrive, but my practical side tells me that these idiots will buy my games for stupid amounts, and I should let them.  For now.  I do believe that eventually, it will all collapse, and we will have our pick of the litter come that day.  I remember when NES games were dirt cheap, and buying a system and games for $20 was a thrill, with plenty of great titles to play for weeks.  Now a common copy of Mega Man is almost 100 bucks.  I really dont get it at all.  Guess Im playing mega man on everdrive for now, causing i have to shill my real copy to some loser.

Yeah it sucks. A lot of the price inflation is caused by poser collectors who want to collect a "complete set" or otherwise buy nice games just to have them as "shelf sitters" Kinda dumb if you ask me but at least if people think they have value, it won't go into a landfill.

Games used to be worthless and owners, as well as game stores with stagnant inventory just threw them out as trash until the larger supply equalized to the dwindling demand. Now we have the opposite, huge demand and little supply, hence games that were formerly worthless now sell for huge amounts.

On the one hand, the high prices is bad for the gamer but ultimately good for preservation because existing stock isn't just going straight into landfills. I do believe we are in a bubble so to speak. All the shelf collectors doing it because it's "in" or "cool" will eventually get bored and dump their stock, then prices will be reasonable once again. Just don't expect bargain basement prices like what existed around 2000. That would be unrealistic. Games are a part of history and will be appreciated until the end of time, whether they exist as physical media or just ROMs on someone's hard drive.

Too many collectards are instant gratification addicts who don't plan ahead, let alone plan on dying.

When family members unexpectedly inherit the huge burdern of thousands of games that they couldn't possibly sort through, even if they had a clue what any of it is, so much is going straight to the landfill.

I have ongoing plans for the important game related items in my possession. The people I've told my partners I want to inherit various things will continue to evolve. But if I end up passing before esteban, he'll never finish scanning everything coming his way.

[ginoscope]

People just need to be more patient and not try and jump at the first buy it now.  Here are some auctions I have won this year on ebay for turbo games that while not flea market prices were fair in my opinion.

Neutopia card only $30 on 1/3/2016
Psychosis card and manual $35 on 3/27/16
Dragon's Curse card only $55 on 3/31/16


 

[Gredler]

For a handful of games you really enjoy, I see no problem paying for them...but be an educated consumer and, as with anything, it is about a balance between frugality and extravagance.

Nobody is perfect. We are all guilty of indulging some sins.

Just don't become an addict, hooked on an absurdly expensive habit.

Unless you are a rich bastard. Then the world is your oyster. Or cloister. Or whatever.

Hell yeah esteban, thank's for elegantly verbalizing my view on this hobby.

[Black Tiger]

I pay a premium to get certain games sooner than later or in a particular completeness or condition. But it's a small fraction of my decreasing year to year buying. I don't have enough time for playing games, so I'm much more patient when it comes to buying something for a fair price. I don't only hold out for super deals, but I do try to avoid gouging on basic principle.

[esteban]

I have ongoing plans for the important game related items in my possession. The people I've told my partners I want to inherit various things will continue to evolve. But if I end up passing before esteban, he'll never finish scanning everything coming his way.

Hahjajajajajajj. 

I am on the "Quiet Car" on the train...and I just laughed out loud, literally.

Oh, the looks I got from all the other commuters...

[TheAlphaOmegaX3]

Well, as long as all these f*cking noobs keep showing up. Yeah. There are probably more noobs this year alone than there were in the entire TG-16 user base back in the day. Many TG-16 games used to just...sit there at the store, for months or years, and eventually go back to the main warehouse after never selling. You know, like any catagory of software in existence.

We have to get these kids laid, guys. It's the the only way to stem the tide. Also, your own kids. Tell them you love them and try to instill some kind of value system in your sons so that they don't all end up seaking external validation through a $6000 chip of plastic that smells like a library basement but only if you remove the plastic. 

Seriously, what kind of 22 year old in 2016 starts buying games older than him for hundreds of dollars each? What is even the draw for someone like that? And why can't he just collect 8 Track? It has a much better software selection.

  High prices suck yes, but the idea of new/younger gamers getting interested in what we enjoy is not a bad thing. Actually it keeps what we love and enjoy alive. It also is a testament about how "good" games can still stand the test of time, even with simpler graphics and features, still be a blast today. I see the boom of classic gaming coming from 3 groups. One's who have always love gaming in general and would like to experience what they missed out on.(Thats me. I also think the past 2 years of gaming have been the worst gen yet. So Im buying better games imo) Another wants to relive their past/childhood. Lastly, the "collectards" you refer too lol. Out to have a dick measuring contest with their game collection. No hate on collecting though. I have nearly everything out their, but its everything I've had since 1985 till now. Also just own what I enjoy. I can understand the frustration with prices, but glad people can and do appreciate great games and a fantastic NEC console.

[Necromancer]

I'm all for new guys getting involved and excited about Turbobs.  It's the f*cktards that just want to buy shit so they can make unboxing videos that suck; anyone that doesn't want to actually play the games (and I mean play 'em, not just boot the game and watch the title sequence to make sure it's functional) can get f*cked.

[TR0N]

Unfortunately, at the moment, if you want popular titles, you are going to have to almost start at $100 to get one.  Most likely, this isn't going to change any time soon.  Because of this, the Everdrive is definitely my friend.  However, there are some titles that have resonated with me and I want to own a physical copy.  The Neutopia series happens to be one.  As I joked around in a previous post, no one was willing to come forward and sell me copies in the $30 to $40 dollar range.  So, I dumbed down and recently paid a ridiculously stupid amount for them CIC.  Do I plan to continue throwing stupid amounts around to complete a collection?  No, there are only about 10 titles that I really want to have a physical copy of.  I have already picked some of those titles up by buying system lots and recapping the consoles and performing AV mods only to then flip them while keeping the games.  This has worked well for me, as I have obtained several titles for nothing out of pocket.  However, quite a few of the the titles on my list are probably not going to show up bundled with systems.  So, a fool and his money will shortly part ways. 

It's for a few titles that's fine just be careful.Collecting for older consoles can be very addictive,you can spend more then you intend to.Still there's to many collectards out there currently for older consoles.At least what i'm seeing with younger people more money then common sense.With to many sellers as well that are taking advantage of it.