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Re: Best car to buy? Honda? Kia? Hyundai?
« Reply #30 on: August 01, 2016, 08:45:08 AM »
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Brake pads, spark plugs, and batteries also require frequent repair.

I wouldn't consider any of those to need replacing frequently.
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Re: Best car to buy? Honda? Kia? Hyundai?
« Reply #31 on: August 01, 2016, 09:38:10 AM »
This article makes me pretty happy I decided to get my Corolla.  10 years so far and it's still holding pretty well. 
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« Reply #32 on: August 01, 2016, 10:14:28 AM »
The priciest Mustang is a GT350R at $68,660 with every available factory option; the only way you'd get to $100k is with aftermarket suppliers.  Either way, it's disingenuous to base such an article on a tiny percentage of models sold instead of the maintenance schedule and parts for 95% of models sold.

As someone who used to work for a famous Mustang tuner who's name I won't mention but you can probably figure out, I promise you can buy a brand new fully warenteed Mustang for a lot more than that. You are correct in saying that it's certainly not representative of "Mustang" as a whole which is historically a very cheap car to run. Even the supercharged ones aren't too bad.

However in recent years Ford has invested *heaviliy* into technologies such as direct injection and turbo charging. Even the lowly Ford Escape is both DI and turbo in its lowest trim. Considering what I've seen of Ford's extremely damaging cost cutting I honestly wouldn't buy anything from them right now. The risk is really really high. This is after all that company that had to replace SPRINGS in millions of Ford Focus because they...apparently cheaped out on them too much. Springs are actually pretty f*cking important. How are they going to...can they get a VGT turbo to last 150,000-200,000 miles? I don't know, but I'd rather read about it than experience it first hand.

My friend just bought a Focus RS. His current "fun" car as an MR-2 Spyder. I'm going to try to convince him to keep the MR-2 simply because in 10 years that high maintainence 4WD DI turbo monster is going to look...well, if it hasn't rusted out or cost you tens of thousands in RS-only parts then you still wouldn't have spent $4000 on tires. The simple little Toyota, which will still be happily running no matter who he sells it to, might look really good at that point.

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Re: Best car to buy? Honda? Kia? Hyundai?
« Reply #33 on: August 01, 2016, 10:26:25 AM »
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Brake pads, spark plugs, and batteries also require frequent repair.

I wouldn't consider any of those to need replacing frequently.

On a modern car, 60,000k for front brake, longer for rear. If a hybrid, way longer on both. Spark plugs are 100k usually, batteries are usually warenteed for 5-7 years. Most new car owners won't have the car when this stuff comes due.

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« Reply #34 on: August 01, 2016, 10:29:59 AM »
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Brake pads, spark plugs, and batteries also require frequent repair.

I wouldn't consider any of those to need replacing frequently.

On a modern car, 60,000k for front brake, longer for rear. If a hybrid, way longer on both. Spark plugs are 100k usually, batteries are usually warenteed for 5-7 years. Most new car owners won't have the car when this stuff comes due.

I agree.  I just replaced the original front and rear rotors and pads on my truck.  It had 95k miles on it at the time.  I never even once had to turn the rotors (and I'm pretty picky about my rotors - I will turn them if I even notice the slightest bit of warping)
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« Reply #35 on: August 01, 2016, 10:43:22 AM »
As someone who used to work for a famous Mustang tuner who's name I won't mention but you can probably figure out, I promise you can buy a brand new fully warenteed Mustang for a lot more than that.

Rousch, Steeda, Saleen, Shelby American, etc. are not Ford, they're third party companies that don't touch the car until after it's left Ford's ownership.  Any "full warranty" you get will be in two parts: one for the parts they added/modified and one from Ford for everything that was left stock.
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« Reply #36 on: August 01, 2016, 11:05:26 AM »
This is a good article on the costs of maintenance over the lifetime of a car.
http://priceonomics.com/which-cars-cost-the-most-and-least-to-maintain-as/


I noticed that Pontiac is mentioned in that article. I wonder how old some of that information is. The article was written this year, but Pontiac has been out of business since 2010. How odd...
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« Reply #37 on: August 01, 2016, 11:43:18 AM »
I can safely testify that this article is accurate when it comes to my Prius. I think total I have spent on maintenance (counting HID headlights) in the two years I have owned it is around $800 for 40,000 I have put on it. Those damn HID headlights cost me $400 this weekend to replace ugh. Take that out of the equation really $400 for oil changes and a tranny flush/change.

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« Reply #38 on: August 01, 2016, 11:52:39 AM »
I can safely testify that this article is accurate when it comes to my Prius. I think total I have spent on maintenance (counting HID headlights) in the two years I have owned it is around $800 for 40,000 I have put on it. Those damn HID headlights cost me $400 this weekend to replace ugh. Take that out of the equation really $400 for oil changes and a tranny flush/change.

I've heard varying reports on battery replacement on the Prius. I imagine the total cost would be pretty high. Any ideas on that cost and how often it is needed?
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« Reply #39 on: August 01, 2016, 12:27:23 PM »
My sister's Prius was rear-ended by an actual "convertible Mustang full of cheerleaders", like something from a comic book. It got hit so hard they had to replace the battery.

So...I don't know the price but I know a way of making your insurance pay for it. :)

I imagine under $5k but not by much.

As someone who used to work for a famous Mustang tuner who's name I won't mention but you can probably figure out, I promise you can buy a brand new fully warenteed Mustang for a lot more than that.

Rousch, Steeda, Saleen, Shelby American, etc. are not Ford, they're third party companies that don't touch the car until after it's left Ford's ownership.  Any "full warranty" you get will be in two parts: one for the parts they added/modified and one from Ford for everything that was left stock.

OK, it's a *mostly* warenteed car. Jesus, get off my f*cking back. My point is that $100k Mustangs most certainly exist. The market may have peaked a few years back but there were a STUPID number of LE Mustangs out there for a while and if you checked all the options then $100k was possible. God knows why you'd want a Mustang when you could afford a Viper but whatever. You can't win a logic battle with millionaire Texans.

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« Reply #40 on: August 01, 2016, 12:37:54 PM »
I can safely testify that this article is accurate when it comes to my Prius. I think total I have spent on maintenance (counting HID headlights) in the two years I have owned it is around $800 for 40,000 I have put on it. Those damn HID headlights cost me $400 this weekend to replace ugh. Take that out of the equation really $400 for oil changes and a tranny flush/change.

I've heard varying reports on battery replacement on the Prius. I imagine the total cost would be pretty high. Any ideas on that cost and how often it is needed?

When I bought my 2006 prius 2 years ago, they told me the warranty on the battery is 150k miles. Other dealerships go for 10 year warranties or 100k on the batteries. To replace the battery is like $2.5k, counting labor and depending if you go after market. https://www.summitracing.com/parts/rnb-587-001?seid=srese1&cm_mmc=pla-google-_-shopping-_-srese1-_-dorman&gclid=CjwKEAjw5vu8BRC8rIGNrqbPuSESJADG8RV01aRs3IeHixJ_QXC2xPh4YwPA5BEKiXFAoVrf_8ETXBoCwi3w_wcB

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« Reply #41 on: August 01, 2016, 12:39:08 PM »
I love my Ford Taurus so far, 2 years into owning this 3 year old vehicle. Feels like a tank full of recliners.

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Re: Best car to buy? Honda? Kia? Hyundai?
« Reply #42 on: August 01, 2016, 02:06:41 PM »
I agree with the "tank" part.

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« Reply #43 on: August 01, 2016, 05:33:43 PM »
I love my Ford Taurus so far, 2 years into owning this 3 year old vehicle. Feels like a tank full of recliners.

The new Taurus is surprisingly a nice car, especially when you are expecting the same features as a 10-year-old Taurus.
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« Reply #44 on: August 02, 2016, 03:13:56 AM »
OK, it's a *mostly* warenteed car. Jesus, get off my f*cking back.

Do you always get so mad when someone points out that you're wrong?

Jeez, get over yourself.
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