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Vimtoman

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PC Engine Duo card
« on: June 22, 2016, 06:47:38 AM »
Is this a copy?

I did not notice that the potting was the full length of the card. Are they all like that?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEC-PC-ENGINE-Hu-card-ARCADE-CARD-DUO-card-only-Japan-for-DUO-/361603324353?hash=item54313cd9c1:g:XCAAAOSwPc9W1cYx
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MNKyDeth

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Re: PC Engine Duo card
« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2016, 07:17:35 AM »
This one looks exactly like the one I have. I bought mine brand new sealed.

I don't think it is a fake or copy of any kind. Not sure there are fakes of these out there to be honest.

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Re: PC Engine Duo card
« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2016, 07:31:43 AM »
That's exactly how the Duo cards look.

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Re: PC Engine Duo card
« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2016, 08:04:35 AM »
'Tis normal..... but what's "potting"?
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Re: PC Engine Duo card
« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2016, 09:53:01 AM »
Potting is a process of filling a complete electronic assembly with a solid or gelatinous compound.

I had a  Pro card but never really used it and sold it recently.
Obviously did not look at it properly.

The stickers on the Duo just didn't look right.

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Re: PC Engine Duo card
« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2016, 02:41:39 PM »
They look completely different from one another. The Duo looks a bit cheaper...which I guess it was. :)

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Re: PC Engine Duo card
« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2016, 02:29:20 AM »
Potting is a process of filling a complete electronic assembly with a solid or gelatinous compound.

Gotcha.  It's strange that they made the Duo card's pcb full length but used a smaller pcb on the more heavily populated Pro card.

The stickers on the Duo just didn't look right.

Yarr, they look cheap compared to the screen printed humps.
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Re: PC Engine Duo card
« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2016, 04:00:13 AM »
Maybe the PRO uses some of the millions of pcbs they made for SFII' and maybe one was released before the other?
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Re: PC Engine Duo card
« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2016, 05:23:24 AM »
I have the Pro card, a part right now, and it's definitely not the SF2 PCB. It uses three SRAM chips just like SCD cards (not sure why they didn't use one), a rom chip, and the mapper chip - and four large dram chips. On the Pro version, the extra stuff takes up space, so the last two DRAM chips are actually on top of the PCB under that bubble - it needs that bubble.

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Re: PC Engine Duo card
« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2016, 05:28:27 AM »





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Re: PC Engine Duo card
« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2016, 06:28:40 AM »
Does that mean that the PRO is the only HuCard that makes use of the bubble, or does the Populous card also stick out?
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Re: PC Engine Duo card
« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2016, 06:38:17 AM »
I don't know. I never own the Populous hucard. Given that it has 32k of ram and probably a logic gloptop for address translation, it shouldn't need to fit under the bubble. When did it come out? About the same time SCD 3.0 upgrade card came out?

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Re: PC Engine Duo card
« Reply #12 on: June 23, 2016, 07:04:35 AM »
So its not potted but just stuck in with double sided.

The ripple layer on the top must be some kind of paint ?

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Re: PC Engine Duo card
« Reply #13 on: June 23, 2016, 08:19:32 AM »
Ah, so it is full length just slightly narrower under ze hump.  I wrongly assumed the pcb was sized like the other humped cards.

The ripple layer on the top must be some kind of paint ?

Yarr, it's a black epoxy coating same as the games.
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Re: PC Engine Duo card
« Reply #14 on: June 23, 2016, 09:58:15 AM »
Populous have bubble on the back but I've checked (glue had dried out anyway) and it's empty. It looks like a spot for a small button battery, like the card shell is based on Tennokoe Bank card but never used the extra space.

It is a bit odd Duo card has bigger circuit than Pro even though Pro has extra 64k RAM added on top of the total RAM needed for Arcade games.