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« Reply #15 on: June 24, 2016, 06:23:08 AM »
I'm just joking, I fully realize it would destroy our economy. I could do without the the Trump's, Clinton's and Feinstein's of the world though.

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« Reply #16 on: June 24, 2016, 08:19:00 AM »
From what I understand, the UK's government was losing money to the EU.
https://fullfact.org/europe/our-eu-membership-fee-55-million/

Sounds like it lost more in stocks though.
http://qz.com/715845/british-stocks-lost-125-billion-after-brexit-or-15-years-worth-of-eu-contributions/


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« Reply #17 on: June 24, 2016, 10:11:39 AM »
It has nothing to do with the money. It's about not liking immigrants, same as a$$holes in the US.

I will say though that due to geography reasons at least most of the racists in the UK have at least seen an immigrant before. I've run into Latino hating Americans in places where clearly there isn't no issue of their culture being overrun to say the least. We have anti-immigrant legislation in parts of the country where the Latino population is %0.02 and there are no jobs to steal in the first place.

The other major component is the "I'm being repressed!" thing, we get a lot of that in the US as well. No living natural born American has seen a bomb fall on his home town, foreign boots in his city, hyperinflation, genocide, %70 tax rates, etc. Bad weather and suicide kill more than any external threat. The standard of living is...OK, but not utopian.

Yet we have people who litterally come home from work and strap on a pistol to hang out in their own living room. People who don't care that cops are murdering civilians in the street and planting evidence in the bodies but fear (or hope for) some sort of "home invasion" that is as statistically more rare than a shark attack. That Obama unilaterally assassinated a US citizen with a drone. Doesn't matter. That once you step into a car you lose virtually all protection against search and seizure. Meaningless to the teabagger. Many Americans actually feel they are oppressed, not by the FBI or Homeland Security but by ACA or the UN. Truely hilarious to me since if you really follow that shit you'll see that, if anything, the UN is a tool of the US, not the other way around. 

These guys would vote to leave the EU if something like that existed over here. They are geographically adjacent to another country but expect to somehow see no evidence of this, they think borders are more than imaginary lines. They'd vote to leave the continent. I didn't realize there were so many of these guys in the UK. For their sake I hope they do negotiate on good terms with the EU after leaving. They're going to need to be on good ground to not get f*cked by all the oil they'll be buying from Scotland which will likely soon get its own independence...but not from the EU, from the UK. :) 

Very much new territory here. I hope it's more interesting than tragic. Ever since I was a little kid I've  been hooked on stuff from the UK. I've probably seen more Brittish TV than American. I've never visited the place but had plans to before 2009 or whenever it was that everything went to shit last. I hope it all turns out OK.

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« Reply #18 on: June 24, 2016, 11:12:55 AM »
I voted remain. Largely selfishly because I wanted to move to Portugal in retirement.

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« Reply #19 on: June 24, 2016, 12:07:34 PM »
It looks for certain that Scotland will now leave the United Kingdom, which I think is sad.

I was under the impression that Scotland would stick with the UK. I could be totally wrong though, obviously

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« Reply #20 on: June 24, 2016, 12:16:18 PM »
Hi

Is day when Britain makes exit

They say brexit

Is funny word

Orange trump give talk for Scotland

Is time for sad of orange man with words

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« Reply #21 on: June 24, 2016, 12:30:49 PM »
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Is time for sad of orange man with words

Indeed.

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« Reply #22 on: June 24, 2016, 12:40:33 PM »
It looks for certain that Scotland will now leave the United Kingdom, which I think is sad.

I was under the impression that Scotland would stick with the UK. I could be totally wrong though, obviously

Nobody knows for sure but unless some serious concessions are promised I would bet money on another Scottish independence referendum within the next year and a half and it succeeding. If Scots had known that by voting to stay in the UK they were actually voting to leave the EU then I'm sure the numbers of the last vote would have been a lot different.

It's also possible, although less likely, that Ireland will unify as an EU state. If it happens the rest of the UK could be in a serious situation.

The idea that such a huge change could be precipitated by %2 of a popular vote based on (what seems like) little more than a racist whim and hugely questionable economic forcasts is troubling. However...at least they vote over there. Amercans get very little choice in such matters and basically just use voting to robotically relect career criminals that openly f*ck us every day by selling out resources out from under us.

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« Reply #23 on: June 24, 2016, 12:54:07 PM »
Well this article broke it down nicely:
http://digg.com/2016/what-is-brexit-explainer-england

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« Reply #24 on: June 24, 2016, 02:52:41 PM »
That Obama unilaterally assassinated a US citizen with a drone. Doesn't matter.
Anwar al-Awlaki wasn't some schmuck that Obama randomly decided one day he was going to launch a drone strike on. Anwar al-Awlaki was a highly influential member of a well known terrorist organization, hell bent on destroying the west. It's easily one of the only things obama has done right during his presidency.

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« Reply #25 on: June 24, 2016, 03:29:27 PM »
It looks for certain that Scotland will now leave the United Kingdom, which I think is sad.

I was under the impression that Scotland would stick with the UK. I could be totally wrong though, obviously

Nobody knows for sure but unless some serious concessions are promised I would bet money on another Scottish independence referendum within the next year and a half and it succeeding. If Scots had known that by voting to stay in the UK they were actually voting to leave the EU then I'm sure the numbers of the last vote would have been a lot different.

It's also possible, although less likely, that Ireland will unify as an EU state. If it happens the rest of the UK could be in a serious situation.

The idea that such a huge change could be precipitated by %2 of a popular vote based on (what seems like) little more than a racist whim and hugely questionable economic forcasts is troubling. However...at least they vote over there. Amercans get very little choice in such matters and basically just use voting to robotically relect career criminals that openly f*ck us every day by selling out resources out from under us.
Hah Illinois knows that all too well with the mayor of Chicago being a corrupt piece of shit and the rich a$$hole governor holding funds hostage for his own personal gain.

In any case, it seems pretty crazy to think that people in Scotland didn't realize that at all, that they'd be leaving the EU. So far from the little I've read it seems hard to tell what was more of a deciding factor, the immigration shit or the economical aspect of it all.

 

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« Reply #26 on: June 24, 2016, 03:46:20 PM »
That Obama unilaterally assassinated a US citizen with a drone. Doesn't matter.
Anwar al-Awlaki wasn't some schmuck that Obama randomly decided one day he was going to launch a drone strike on. Anwar al-Awlaki was a highly influential member of a well known terrorist organization, hell bent on destroying the west. It's easily one of the only things obama has done right during his presidency.

But would you let him buy a gun?

This is a serious question because I want to have a better understanding of how nuts you are before I bother with explaining why NO ONE is better off in a world where leaders can wax their own people from the other side of the planet with no legal process to speak of. That's like some Warhammer 30k level dystopian nightmare shit right there. Even people who love killing more than anything have problems with this concept.
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« Reply #27 on: June 24, 2016, 03:57:59 PM »
It looks for certain that Scotland will now leave the United Kingdom, which I think is sad.

I was under the impression that Scotland would stick with the UK. I could be totally wrong though, obviously

Nobody knows for sure but unless some serious concessions are promised I would bet money on another Scottish independence referendum within the next year and a half and it succeeding. If Scots had known that by voting to stay in the UK they were actually voting to leave the EU then I'm sure the numbers of the last vote would have been a lot different.

It's also possible, although less likely, that Ireland will unify as an EU state. If it happens the rest of the UK could be in a serious situation.

The idea that such a huge change could be precipitated by %2 of a popular vote based on (what seems like) little more than a racist whim and hugely questionable economic forcasts is troubling. However...at least they vote over there. Amercans get very little choice in such matters and basically just use voting to robotically relect career criminals that openly f*ck us every day by selling out resources out from under us.
Hah Illinois knows that all too well with the mayor of Chicago being a corrupt piece of shit and the rich a$$hole governor holding funds hostage for his own personal gain.

In any case, it seems pretty crazy to think that people in Scotland didn't realize that at all, that they'd be leaving the EU. So far from the little I've read it seems hard to tell what was more of a deciding factor, the immigration shit or the economical aspect of it all.

 

Perhaps I didn't phrase that properly.

The vote in Scotland to stay or leave took place in September of 2014.

The vote for the UK to leave the EU wasn't a known thing until earlier this year when the most recent round of "please treat us special, we're the UK" talks were known to have resulted in few concessions.

While tensions were high, I don't seriously think anyone thought this vote would go this way. Polling data was wrong. Labour barely bother to campaign against it, apparently misjudging the will of the people by a significant amount. Time machines don't exist. Therefore I don't see how Scots voting to stay in the UK would know that in less than two years they'd be out of the EU completely. Someone guessed it correctly, I'm sure, but there was no mainstream concensous to this affect in the recent months that I know of.

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« Reply #28 on: June 24, 2016, 03:58:14 PM »
That Obama unilaterally assassinated a US citizen with a drone. Doesn't matter.
Anwar al-Awlaki wasn't some schmuck that Obama randomly decided one day he was going to launch a drone strike on. Anwar al-Awlaki was a highly influential member of a well known terrorist organization, hell bent on destroying the west. It's easily one of the only things obama has done right during his presidency.

But would you let him buy a gun?

This is a serious question because I want to have a better understanding of how nuts you are before I bother with explaining why NO ONE is better off in a world where leaders can wax their own people from the other side of the planet with no legal process to speak of. That's like some Wathammer 30k level dystopian nightmare shit right there. Even people who love killing more than anything have problems with this concept.
"their own people"
Hey man i'm not too fond of Obama either but there's no need to call him a terrorist.

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« Reply #29 on: June 24, 2016, 04:05:54 PM »
Oh, he's a terrorist all right. Most US presidents have been. That is, the idea of threatening the lives of huge numbers of people to get what you want, even if you're too innept to actually get it, is really popular with Presidents. Simply being in charge of a nuclear arsenal more or less puts you in that category by default. Carpet bombing entire nations erases all doubt. Native genocide, proxy armies, political assassinations, no-fly zones, Chile, Cambodia, Panama, Greneda, Hondouras...death is a US export second only to superhero movies and fat. None of this is what we were taking about though, so I guess we'll just stop wasting each other's time pretending we want to have an actual conversation.