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Re: Nintendo Switch Thread (previously NX)
« Reply #135 on: December 22, 2016, 05:19:03 AM »
This looks decent enough. I hope the terrible frame rate in parts is just the video and not the actual game. Maybe it's just my phone.


Framerate is crap, but this is a indie game that looks very un-optimized and has a lot of room for degradation of assets without much impact to visuals to improve framerate.



That'd be a fair trade off (getting two for one) if it could actually function well as a portable, but it's rather too bulky and clunky to carry around, plus the screen is complete garbage compared to any modern tablet.


Oh nice, you've held it and have an idea of how bulky it is, how well it functions, and the quality of the screen? I'd love to hear more detailed impressions! :)



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Re: Nintendo Switch Thread (previously NX)
« Reply #136 on: December 22, 2016, 05:47:02 AM »
The Switch does look kinda bulky to me in the promo videos, look at the size comparison to the 3DS XL.




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Re: Nintendo Switch Thread (previously NX)
« Reply #137 on: December 22, 2016, 05:52:10 AM »
The Switch does look kinda bulky to me in the promo videos, look at the size comparrison to the 3DS XL.






Thanks for the comparison photo! :) I hope it's thinner than the 3DS Xl, because I put that in my pocket now and the thickness is more of an issue than the width and height - it's sorta like a phablet but much thicker.

I can't wait to get my hands on it and see how it fits down there *blush*

I've been carrying handhelds for a long time, from GBA to PSP and N3DSXL I usually lug a handheld around with me. I've never carried a Vita, as I don't own one, but I'd love to see a size comparison to that!

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Re: Nintendo Switch Thread (previously NX)
« Reply #138 on: December 22, 2016, 08:05:59 AM »
Oh nice, you've held it and have an idea of how bulky it is, how well it functions, and the quality of the screen? I'd love to hear more detailed impressions! :)

You don't need to hold it in your hands.  You just need functioning eyes and an IQ over 70.

Besides the overall dimensions making it not-so-portable (a complaint many have already logged against the smaller 3DS XL), I say it's bulky because it's substantially thicker than any modern tablet and the analog sticks appear to stick out so far that they'll prevent it from easily sliding in and out of pockets.  I say it's clunky because the sticks are offset, there's no real d-pad, and the controllers are much too small for real use separately.  As for the screen, complete garbage might be a bit much but the resolution is much lower than what you'll find in any modern tablet or phone, no lcd is as good as the oleds used in some competing devices, and Nintendo doesn't exactly have a good track record of using quality screens.
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Re: Nintendo Switch Thread (previously NX)
« Reply #139 on: December 22, 2016, 09:17:29 AM »
You don't need to hold it in your hands.  You just need functioning eyes and an IQ over 70.

Thanks, love you too necro, keeping it as classy as ever. I'll keep in mind your statements of fact are based on assumptions going forward - my low IQ appreciates your explanation.

The analog sticks appear to stick out so far that they'll prevent it from easily sliding in and out of pockets.  I say it's clunky because the sticks are offset, there's no real d-pad, and the controllers are much too small for real use separately. 

The thumb sticks sticking out is my biggest concern, I imagine this thing has to be disassembled to be put in the pocket - and at that size it looks similar to the N3DS XL except the switch will be thinner. I guess I am one of the people with jeans not so skinny that I an actually fit my phone and N3DS XL in one pocket comfortably; the 3DS XL vs a phablet with a case seems very similar in size to me, but what do I know. When I am rocking cargo shorts it's no question, that 3DSXL is coming with me for the day :D


The lack of clamshell design makes me concerned for the screen scratching. I eventually gravitated towards carrying a 3DS from PSP because of this, even though there were a lot of PSP games I'd like to play it basically only accompanies me on trips where I have a bag with me.


I am really hoping for the modular design to allow for more portable solutions for the controller and screen protection. You're right the thumbsticks do look like it'd be shitty to pocket as any raised thumbstick device would be - but I will reserve my judgement until I hold it and try to pocket it to know for fact.


The offset thumbstick's a preference a lot of people prefer, including myself, and the lack of a true d-pad will also have to reserve judgement until tested considering how much I enjoy all of Sony's dpads which are not "true" d-pads. I also thought the C-Buttons on the N64 worked fine as a d-pad for many games, so my judgement is obviously f*cked and obtuse :)


As for the screen, complete garbage might be a bit much but the resolution is much lower than what you'll find in any modern tablet or phone, no lcd is as good as the oleds used in some competing devices, and Nintendo doesn't exactly have a good track record of using quality screens.

I wonder what games would be able to take advantage of "modern tablets or phones" resolutions. As far as I know most games are developed for 720p and upscaled, with a few being developed at 1080p. I guess upscaling is a high priority to you? What other hand held consoles are using OLED? I'd love to go into a store and pick one up.

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Re: Nintendo Switch Thread (previously NX)
« Reply #140 on: December 22, 2016, 10:08:08 AM »
Is that size comparison accurate? Or legitimate? Could just be pictures of the two next to one another, that doesn't say much.

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Re: Nintendo Switch Thread (previously NX)
« Reply #141 on: December 22, 2016, 10:25:03 AM »
Thanks, love you too necro, keeping it as classy as ever. I'll keep in mind your statements of fact are based on assumptions going forward - my low IQ appreciates your explanation.

Says the snarky ass that responded to my simple observations by implying that only an idiot would assume anything or form an opinion until they've held something in their hands.  Everybody stop posting!  You know nothing!!!

I wonder what games would be able to take advantage of "modern tablets or phones" resolutions. As far as I know most games are developed for 720p and upscaled, with a few being developed at 1080p. I guess upscaling is a high priority to you?

Almost all PS4 games run at 1080p native, and most xbone games are running at 900p or higher.  Maybe you're talking about android/ios games?

Either way, it doesn't matter.  My original point was about the Switch being more expensive while having lesser specs; whether or not the better specs matter to me (or anyone else) is irrelevant.

What other hand held consoles are using OLED? I'd love to go into a store and pick one up.

There's several tablets and phones with OLED screens.  If you want to ignore those as competitors, there's nothing.
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Re: Nintendo Switch Thread (previously NX)
« Reply #142 on: December 22, 2016, 10:56:21 AM »
Says the snarky ass that responded to my simple observations by implying that only an idiot would assume anything or form an opinion until they've held something in their hands.  Everybody stop posting!  You know nothing!!!

Hahah Sorry dude, I honestly did not mean to be snarky! I thought you may have a homie with access that let you check it out, but I should've known that if that were the case you'd be respectful of that homie (or of your career if you're the one with access) not to say something :P  The way you phrased it made it sound like you had personal experience with the switch.

Almost all PS4 games run at 1080p native, and most xbone games are running at 900p or higher.  Maybe you're talking about android/ios games?

Run at or upscale to? I wasn't aware that almost all the games were running at 1080 now, news to me :) I was under the impression that aside from some very well optimized games like Call of Duty and the like were running at 720p, and even then 30fps. 1080p 60fps isn't what I thought was standard, so lets hope they can do that at least right? :)

Either way, it doesn't matter.  My original point was about the Switch being more expensive while having lesser specs; whether or not the better specs matter to me (or anyone else) is irrelevant.

Agreed. I personally buy a game system for the games on it, not the specs (did the turbo have better specs than the Genesis?)

There's several tablets and phones with OLED screens.  If you want to ignore those as competitors, there's nothing.

Yeah I wasn't considering those, if this were a phone or had the capabilities of a tablet I'd see your point. To me this would replace my 3DS or PSP not my tablet, the fap station stays in the bathroom this is going with me everywhere or chilling in the living room.

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Re: Nintendo Switch Thread (previously NX)
« Reply #143 on: December 22, 2016, 11:13:35 AM »
Can this run turrican. Yes or no? That's all I ask.

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Re: Nintendo Switch Thread (previously NX)
« Reply #144 on: December 22, 2016, 11:25:00 AM »
Can this run turrican. Yes or no? That's all I ask.

The switch does what turrican't


And I looked into a bit, and it looks like there are very few PS4 games not running at 1080p, and those are at 900 or fluctuate dynamically between 900 and 1080 - news to me! :)
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Re: Nintendo Switch Thread (previously NX)
« Reply #145 on: December 23, 2016, 12:52:19 AM »
The specs are pretty irrelevant to me, as are the tablet comparisons.  Games designed for a tablet are never going to replace games designed for game hardware.. 

As long as this thing gets 10-15 really good Nintendo games over the next several years it will be a success for me...


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Re: Nintendo Switch Thread (previously NX)
« Reply #146 on: December 23, 2016, 01:17:51 AM »
Can this run turrican. Yes or no? That's all I ask.

The switch does what turrican't


And I looked into a bit, and it looks like there are very few PS4 games not running at 1080p, and those are at 900 or fluctuate dynamically between 900 and 1080 - news to me! :)

The biggest issue for current gen systems is getting the games to output a constant 60fps. Personally I would rather have a game run at 720p@60fps than 1080p@30fps. The sacrifice in resolution is minimal compared to the added fps

As long as this thing gets 10-15 really good Nintendo games over the next several years it will be a success for me...

It might be fine for you but is it fine for the big N? I guess we will see!

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Re: Nintendo Switch Thread (previously NX)
« Reply #147 on: December 23, 2016, 04:21:08 AM »
On the subject of OLED screens I'm pretty sure the Vita's screen OLED.

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Re: Nintendo Switch Thread (previously NX)
« Reply #148 on: December 23, 2016, 04:26:53 AM »
On the subject of OLED screens I'm pretty sure the Vita's screen OLED.
The first model was. The one I have is LCD.

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Re: Nintendo Switch Thread (previously NX)
« Reply #149 on: December 23, 2016, 04:27:00 AM »
On the subject of OLED screens I'm pretty sure the Vita's screen OLED.
Olders models were, they ditched them at some point though...