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Joe Redifer

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Re: PC Engine CD/TurboGrafx CD Vs Mega-CD/Sega CD - which is better?
« Reply #60 on: July 14, 2016, 12:10:26 PM »

It was a guy called John O'Brien


Yeah him. I knew there was a Brian in there somewhere/somehow. He did the best work on the system outside of Core.

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Re: PC Engine CD/TurboGrafx CD Vs Mega-CD/Sega CD - which is better?
« Reply #61 on: July 14, 2016, 12:28:00 PM »
He did the best work on the system outside of Core.

Which is another English company that Bob raided for talent, bringing most of the original founders over to California. For example ... Andy Green, who did the 2D sections on Batman Returns.

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Re: PC Engine CD/TurboGrafx CD Vs Mega-CD/Sega CD - which is better?
« Reply #62 on: July 14, 2016, 12:38:46 PM »
Those 2D sections were just awful.  However Core also did Battlecorps and Soul Star which were amazing graphically. Not-so-much BC Racers though.

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Re: PC Engine CD/TurboGrafx CD Vs Mega-CD/Sega CD - which is better?
« Reply #63 on: July 14, 2016, 01:06:38 PM »
Those 2D sections were just awful.  However Core also did Battlecorps and Soul Star which were amazing graphically. Not-so-much BC Racers though.

Hahaha ... I didn't say that he always got right UK talent, or that the devs had enough time to do a decent job!

I still prefer Rick Dangerous and Switchblade to anything Core did afterwards.

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Re: PC Engine CD/TurboGrafx CD Vs Mega-CD/Sega CD - which is better?
« Reply #64 on: July 14, 2016, 02:36:19 PM »
I'm betting that if NEC could, they would have been all over the FMV bandwagon. Nowhere along the line did they say "Let's stick to good, real games because we feel that's a better use of the technology".

Agreed.  If HuVideo was part of the dev kit when Super CDs came out, I'm sure we'd have seen it used in lots of games; I doubt there'd be much stuff like Sewer Shark or Make My Video, but I'm sure it would've been used a lot for cut scenes, especially in rpgs and digi-comics.

Magical Dinosaur Tour is truly what the system is all about though.

:lol:

I believe this is true, but the fact that it was so far from reality illustrates one of my favorite things about NEC systems; there was almost no development outside of Japan. If there were then they'd being using programmers that actually get paid and were allowed to go home every day, there would have been software tool R&D, but there also might have been Dick Vitale's Awsome Baby College Hoops spread across 3 CDs with radical FMV segments and the six part series might have made so much money that it wasn't worth translating good RPGs (which barely happened anyway). It's good to have one system like this.

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Re: PC Engine CD/TurboGrafx CD Vs Mega-CD/Sega CD - which is better?
« Reply #65 on: July 14, 2016, 02:39:39 PM »
Madden Duo CD Football is a $0 budget peek at that alternate reality.
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Re: PC Engine CD/TurboGrafx CD Vs Mega-CD/Sega CD - which is better?
« Reply #66 on: July 14, 2016, 02:54:26 PM »
Is Mega CD better than Sega CD? The word MEGA sounds cooler. Is it better?
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Re: PC Engine CD/TurboGrafx CD Vs Mega-CD/Sega CD - which is better?
« Reply #67 on: July 14, 2016, 03:40:55 PM »
Is Mega CD better than Sega CD? The word MEGA sounds cooler. Is it better?

It goes Japan MEGA>North American SEGA>Misc MEGA.
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Re: PC Engine CD/TurboGrafx CD Vs Mega-CD/Sega CD - which is better?
« Reply #68 on: July 15, 2016, 10:18:48 AM »
but there also might have been Dick Vitale's Awsome Baby College Hoops spread across 3 CDs with radical FMV segments

That would have been truly awesome. Then on future consoles we could have crossovers like Scottie Pippin X Dick Vitale Super Turbo EX plus Alpha Dash spread across 16 Blu-rays (4 for each quarter).

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Re: PC Engine CD/TurboGrafx CD Vs Mega-CD/Sega CD - which is better?
« Reply #69 on: July 17, 2016, 04:37:20 PM »
Late to the party:

When I was a kid I LOVED...both...

But ultimately found Sega CD more accessible. No store in my suburban/rural town carried TG16. I had to drive at least an hour to get anything (which is why I only had a few games for my Turbo). If I could convince my parents into buying a game for me, it would be tough to also get them to drive an hour to scoop a TG16 game, so I more often played Sega CD. Also the Blockbuster Video carried Genesis and SNES but no Turbo.

Now, in hindsight, and multifaceted adult opinion, I vote Turbo CD. I won't knock anything on Sega CD except that Sega should have added video out through the cd, so the Genesis could compete in the "colors on screen" market place. There are many games I love on both systems, but in overall playability, I choose Turbo. The Ys series builds a really solid foundation for me here. Snatcher on Sega CD.

Make no mistake. It's really very close for me, but I think, if we are including all PCE CD titles it's a no brainer. My copies of Kamen Rider Zo, Lunar, and Night Trap are pulling their nostalgia spades though!

Great thread. I've really enjoyed reeading what everyone thought as this is a question I often ponder.
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Re: PC Engine CD/TurboGrafx CD Vs Mega-CD/Sega CD - which is better?
« Reply #70 on: July 17, 2016, 05:05:41 PM »
WARNING: I am spamming this on the other thread, too. But the discussion really belongs here...

Ben Heck says...



...but note that he is not using using the upgraded SCD System Card...

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Re: PC Engine CD/TurboGrafx CD Vs Mega-CD/Sega CD - which is better?
« Reply #71 on: July 17, 2016, 07:50:51 PM »
Ben Heck is just a console modder. He doesn't know anything about actually coding or specs on these old systems (even more obvious by his comparison pic). Why do people turn to him for areas he's not an expert or even qualified in?

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Re: PC Engine CD/TurboGrafx CD Vs Mega-CD/Sega CD - which is better?
« Reply #72 on: July 18, 2016, 03:28:18 AM »
Ben Heck has made some hilariously bad spec comments in the past. I think that he was foolish enough to do a comparison between SNES and Genesis and said the same stupid things SNES fanboys do about it being a hi-res sprite monster.
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Re: PC Engine CD/TurboGrafx CD Vs Mega-CD/Sega CD - which is better?
« Reply #73 on: July 18, 2016, 01:41:43 PM »
He didn't even get the Genesis speeds right. It's 7.67 or 7.68Mhz I believe, not 7.61. And the Z-80 is 3.58Mhz, not 4. To say nothing of using the bare-bones Turbo CD specs. And he forgot the backup RAM.

EDIT: He forgot the ADPCM in the Turbo and the 8-channel PCM in the Sega CD. Sure he said ASIC but that's really more for the scaling n' rotation, isn't it?
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Re: PC Engine CD/TurboGrafx CD Vs Mega-CD/Sega CD - which is better?
« Reply #74 on: July 18, 2016, 04:09:07 PM »
And by the time the SNES CD-ROM was supposed to come out, the PC Engine CD had 2304KB "EXP RAM", not just 64.
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