WTB PCE Duo-R

[OC2010]

I was quoting what you said. "Start my retro gaming collection" sounds like something a 16 year old would say, both because nobody ever called a SNES "retro" until 90s kids started doing it and it also seems to indicate your "gamer" ass doesn't actually have a single game. Both would be good reasons to get into beard grooming or 3D printing or some other dumb fad. This one is 10 lbs of sausage in a 5 pound sack. Beware. You are very late to the party.

Wow... Are you really this upset about it? I'm not trying to become some amazing collector who outbids you on eBay or at some "_Con" of some sort. I wanted help getting a Duo-R. Did you recently get outbid by somebody on something? I'm just a nice guy that misses playing my old games, and I'm also a father who wants to share something with his son that gave him joy. I don't care how old you are, you have something to learn about being kind and having respect for those that have done nothing at all to you. I feel like I'm being extremely disrespected and I didn't do anything to anyone...

And... As consoles go... Get used to it: 90s music... On the "Oldies" station. When you think about it. The only things of note older than the systems in the 80s are the early iterations of Atari, Magnavox's Odyssey variations ("Wow! I can stick an overhead to my screen!"), ColecoVision, and the Intellivision. By the way, I played them all. All the rest are just a plot-point for a timeline somewhere. In the age of photorealistic graphics, yeah... as consoles go, the SNES (released in 1991) is slowly turning into a "retro" system. It happens as you get older... Sorry to tell you but the timeline moves.

Don't worry, I'll be sure to watch out for you. All I ask is that you please don't come into my posts here just to be a jerk and disguising it as protecting the sanctity of the semantics of collecting. Thanks! 

[SavagePencil]

I'm curious to hear what you think of the system, and the controller setup, when you get it.

[SignOfZeta]

I was quoting what you said. "Start my retro gaming collection" sounds like something a 16 year old would say, both because nobody ever called a SNES "retro" until 90s kids started doing it and it also seems to indicate your "gamer" ass doesn't actually have a single game. Both would be good reasons to get into beard grooming or 3D printing or some other dumb fad. This one is 10 lbs of sausage in a 5 pound sack. Beware. You are very late to the party.

Wow... Are you really this upset about it? I'm not trying to become some amazing collector who outbids you on eBay or at some "_Con" of some sort. I wanted help getting a Duo-R. Did you recently get outbid by somebody on something? I'm just a nice guy that misses playing my old games, and I'm also a father who wants to share something with his son that gave him joy. I don't care how old you are, you have something to learn about being kind and having respect for those that have done nothing at all to you. I feel like I'm being extremely disrespected and I didn't do anything to anyone...

And... As consoles go... Get used to it: 90s music... On the "Oldies" station. When you think about it. The only things of note older than the systems in the 80s are the early iterations of Atari, Magnavox's Odyssey variations ("Wow! I can stick an overhead to my screen!"), ColecoVision, and the Intellivision. By the way, I played them all. All the rest are just a plot-point for a timeline somewhere. In the age of photorealistic graphics, yeah... as consoles go, the SNES (released in 1991) is slowly turning into a "retro" system. It happens as you get older... Sorry to tell you but the timeline moves.

Don't worry, I'll be sure to watch out for you. All I ask is that you please don't come into my posts here just to be a jerk and disguising it as protecting the sanctity of the semantics of collecting. Thanks! 

It doesn't matter how old I am, it really doesn't. I also haven't bought a game off eBay in years so that's not it either. My point was that "retro gaming" as you call it (know in olden days as "playing video games") is a pretty crappy hobby to get into now and if you don't actually have a single game then this is the perfect time to get bit by some other bug, something more meaningful to a guy who owns zero games.

The very idea that people "decide to collect retro video games" is offensive to me. Why would you do that? Why not just buy games you like and enjoy them? Why don't you have anything? What happened to it? Why does it have to be such a major event that causes people to waste insane sums on games they don't even play? Why does it have to be a cult or a club?

I read books. I have hundreds. Many are scifi and politics. At no point in my life did I say "I'm going to be a collector of scifi/political books!" I've always had them. There was no beginning. No switch was flipped. I simply buy the ones I like and eventually a big pile of them accumulated. I never said "I need a pile of books! Well, let's get started. I guess I need a shelf first."

Maybe you don't realize how bad the scene is now, but I doubt it. Is assume the overwhelming stench of things is what drew you back into it. Please be a dear and dump all your stuff here when you're done with it. These guys could use a break.

[OC2010]

It doesn't matter how old I am, it really doesn't. I also haven't bought a game off eBay in years so that's not it either. My point was that "retro gaming" as you call it (know in olden days as "playing video games") is a pretty crappy hobby to get into now and if you don't actually have a single game then this is the perfect time to get bit by some other bug, something more meaningful to a guy who owns zero games.

The very idea that people "decide to collect retro video games" is offensive to me. Why would you do that? Why not just buy games you like and enjoy them? Why don't you have anything? What happened to it? Why does it have to be such a major event that causes people to waste insane sums on games they don't even play? Why does it have to be a cult or a club?

It really does matter, actually. I am old enough to have been in the crash we recently had and to become an economic layoff TWICE. Just before the first one, I got divorced and she had run up the credit cards! I had to sell many things I loved so that I could move, which included most of my games. When I was in college my best friend and I had a setup that contained most systems from the Atari 2600 on up, and most of them were mine. Anyway... After the layoffs I got into the rut with PlayStations where the only way I could get the next system was to sell all the games I had for the current system to afford the next. My Wii U is the first Nintendo I owned since the secondhand GameCube I had. Sometimes adults have decisions that they have to make where some things need to go in order to continue on in a healthy way.

I know I'm late to the "game" this time around, but if you had paid attention to my other posts in this thread you might have already gotten the idea (albeit, not as specific) of what I just told you. I love gaming. But I had to do some grown-up things I hope you never have to deal with and had to get rid of what I had already collected to that point. I sold off thousands of dollars of merchandise. Who knows, if you like Sega, you might own some of my games...

Being poor is not fun... It got in the way a lot. Luckily I'm on firm footing right now and I'm almost through my student loans. My Masters degree took a bite out of my pocket too. 37 years old and almost out of debt after a ton of issues. I'm happy to be able to even think this way right now. I know it is stupid expensive. That's why I need to plan, and I need to try to go through less absurd sources than eBay. Prices of course get dumb there... Every once in a great while you find a gem. But being involved in communities like this, where people really love what they play and don't just use it to get a buck, is how you can network to find the things you are looking for at a realistic price.

As you all know, the PC Engine is a system that is severely underappreciated except in places like this. It is a part of some of my fondest memories from the 90s. It is stupid expensive to collect for. But, if the Retro Freak is all people say it is, the savings it will offer with the HuCard games is immense. Then I can drop the cash on CDs, if needed. I just want to play the games again... and have the system I always wanted in the process. 

I hope we can put the animosity (that appeared to exist) behind us. I just want to enjoy this forum with everyone else that has a respect and love for the PCE.

[SignOfZeta]

I'm 43 years old this month. I was raised by a single mother and an abusive step dad. My girlfriend of 16 years dumped me with no explaination. I've been homeless. I've been to jail. I've had to sell stuff before, believe me. You've got nothing on me in these departments and I don't care because it doesn't matter. I'm not measuring your dick or mine.

And I don't have a complete N64 collection. That was a (very good) joke. The N64 sucks.

The point is that I still have the same copy of Sirens of Titan that I've had for 20 years and I've read it twice. It cost $1. Many of my PC Engine games cost $1 too but that's a thing of the past now. Everyone wants to be the star of Storage Wars and talk about flipping shit and completing shit and making fake cardboard shit. It's a shitstorm, basically and the entire thing is on YouTube. I suggest you emulate or get into something less expensive and less antisocial, like speedboats or pure cocain.

[OC2010]

I'm 43 years old this month. I was raised by a single mother and an abusive step dad. My girlfriend of 16 years dumped me with no explaination. I've been homeless. I've been to jail. I've had to sell stuff before, believe me. You've got nothing on me in these departments and I don't care because it doesn't matter. I'm not measuring your dick or mine.

And I don't have a complete N64 collection. That was a (very good) joke. The N64 sucks.

The point is that I still have the same copy of Sirens of Titan that I've had for 20 years and I've read it twice. It cost $1. Many of my PC Engine games cost $1 too but that's a thing of the past now. Everyone wants to be the star of Storage Wars and talk about flipping shit and completing shit and making fake cardboard shit. It's a shitstorm, basically and the entire thing is on YouTube. I suggest you emulate or get into something less expensive and less antisocial, like speedboats or pure cocain.

Listen... No one is measuring anything here. You are being rude and I told you what I was about after all of your erroneous assumptions. Get off your high horse and take the stick out of that crevice and let me enjoy a little bit of something. I just want to enjoy some PC Engine games again. Quit trolling my post and go get into someone else's business, please.

[esteban]

OC2010: I was being deceitful. Zeta and I might actually be more than 20 years old.

Indeed, we have been soured by what has happened in the last 15-20 years. We have seen the most ridiculous things.

As Zeta already explained, it doesn't matter that you are older/younger than us, because you are just jumping into things (circa 2016) and we are simply explaining : IT'S CRAZY. IT'S STOOPID. A FOOL AND HIS KRUGERRANDS ARE SOON DEPARTED.

[OC2010]

I'm completely cool with that... And I do already understand where you both are coming from. The market is crazy. But, I definitely did not deserve all of that. Be jaded all you want to be. I just want to buy an emulation system like the Retro Freak and a Duo-R. This is not complicated. No one in here deserves to be attacked just because they are "starting" or whatever. Be polite and warn about the state of collecting at this time if you want (such as how you just did). But don't be rude thinking I'm another guy in here for a quick buck. If I was in it for that, I wouldn't be looking to get a Duo-R and an XRGB Mini. There is not much money in that for ME on the back end. I want it for myself because I love the games and always wanted that particular system. No need to get testy about it.

From the moment I began the thread Zeta has been rude. I looked at the rules and never expected all of this because they exist, even though it was mentioned in the thread that some people have forgotten them...

Thank you for being polite.

[OC2010]

My apologies, everyone... I just now realized that I posted this in the wrong section of the forum. When I get back in the market for my Duo-R I will move it to the PCE sales and trade specific area. Initial comments about the Turbo Duo make a whole lot of sense when you get your head out of the sand! Sorry!

[esteban]

My apologies, everyone... I just now realized that I posted this in the wrong section of the forum. When I get back in the market for my Duo-R I will move it to the PCE sales and trade specific area. Initial comments about the Turbo Duo make a whole lot of sense when you get your head out of the sand! Sorry!

It's all good.

[wildfruit]

Is a kindle a book emulator?

[Johnpv]

I just wanted to add that saying a Duo-R is going to cost you $1000 is way off base.  You can find RGB, and Region modded Rs on ebay in the 350 - 400 range.  They come with the RGB cable you need, and to add a framemeister into that cost is a bit disingenuous IMHO.  The FM is going to work with all your gaming consoles and not just the Duo-R.  If you watch sales and time it right, a set up can be had for way less than you're thinking. 

[OC2010]

I just wanted to add that saying a Duo-R is going to cost you $1000 is way off base.  You can find RGB, and Region modded Rs on ebay in the 350 - 400 range.  They come with the RGB cable you need, and to add a framemeister into that cost is a bit disingenuous IMHO.  The FM is going to work with all your gaming consoles and not just the Duo-R.  If you watch sales and time it right, a set up can be had for way less than you're thinking.

I hope you are right. But the Duo-Rs that I have seen recently on eBay have not been modded. The costs when I added them up yesterday looked like this:

PCE Duo-R -@ $300
Duo Card - @ $75
Region Switch mod - @ $50
RGB mod - @ $65
XRGB Mini - @ $370 (but you are correct it will help with the other consoles I will get)
SCART and other cables - @ $30
Multi tap - @ $40
Additional 6 button controller(s) if there isn't two (priced Avenue 6) - @ $40 per
Shipping - @ $75 if I have to do all mods after the fact and purchase from Japan

Total: @ $1045

This is how I got my number... Take away some of the shipping and add the mods in at $350 to $400 for the system and I'm still at @ $950- $1000. So, the system itself and the XRGB Mini for $1000? That's not what I meant and I'm sorry for the confusion. It's all the other stuff that make it function the way I want it to that add to the cost. I will be very grateful if I can get what I am looking for at better prices. I hope you are right!

[esteban]

I just wanted to add that saying a Duo-R is going to cost you $1000 is way off base.  You can find RGB, and Region modded Rs on ebay in the 350 - 400 range.  They come with the RGB cable you need, and to add a framemeister into that cost is a bit disingenuous IMHO.  The FM is going to work with all your gaming consoles and not just the Duo-R.  If you watch sales and time it right, a set up can be had for way less than you're thinking.

I hope you are right. But the Duo-Rs that I have seen recently on eBay have not been modded. The costs when I added them up yesterday looked like this:

PCE Duo-R -@ $300
Duo Card - @ $75
Region Switch mod - @ $50
RGB mod - @ $65
XRGB Mini - @ $370 (but you are correct it will help with the other consoles I will get)
SCART and other cables - @ $30
Multi tap - @ $40
Additional 6 button controller(s) if there isn't two (priced Avenue 6) - @ $40 per
Shipping - @ $75 if I have to do all mods after the fact and purchase from Japan

Total: @ $1045

This is how I got my number... Take away some of the shipping and add the mods in at $350 to $400 for the system and I'm still at @ $950- $1000. So, the system itself and the XRGB Mini for $1000? That's not what I meant and I'm sorry for the confusion. It's all the other stuff that make it function the way I want it to that add to the cost. I will be very grateful if I can get what I am looking for at better prices. I hope you are right!

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[SavagePencil]

FWIW, I think you're going the right route.  Get the system and play the HuCards and give it some time.  You might find that the upscaler situation has changed in the next few months.  Maybe the OSSC will be the new darling of upscalers.  I was kind of driven crazy by the Framemeister because each and every system required niggling little tweaks or had some minor oddball issue ("oh, it takes a few seconds when a Saturn game changes resolution from 240p to 480i, but on *my* TV it totally drops the connection and requires me to power cycle", etc.).  I went the CRT w/RGB route and that has its own challenges.  I've invested too much time and money into the setup, time that I could have spent playing the f*cking games.