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Zero_Gamer

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Re: Ys IV
« Reply #15 on: August 30, 2016, 01:11:11 AM »
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Re: Ys IV
« Reply #16 on: August 30, 2016, 05:05:22 AM »
definetly a real good game :)
i would love to see more of these coming out with such quality.

anyway moving on with my YS marathon....slowly but surely.
i'm around half the second game done....cant wait to finally play the third on turbografx.

i always played on snes back then. first time ill try :)
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Re: Ys IV
« Reply #17 on: August 30, 2016, 05:14:27 AM »
definetly a real good game :)
i would love to see more of these coming out with such quality.

anyway moving on with my YS marathon....slowly but surely.
i'm around half the second game done....cant wait to finally play the third on turbografx.

i always played on snes back then. first time ill try :)

Holy cow.

Ys III on TG-CD will be a treat.

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Re: Ys IV
« Reply #18 on: August 30, 2016, 06:10:36 AM »
I wonder what happened with the scrolling in the TG16/PCEngine version of III.  There's like 1 or 2 spots where the scrolling is nice and buttery smooth and then everywhere else is stutter city.  Its as if 2 different people programmed how those sections would handle scrolling.

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Re: Ys IV
« Reply #19 on: September 02, 2016, 02:51:19 AM »
Hmmm...an Ys marathon.  Why have I never done this before!?  :shock:

Thats the idea, i waited quite long to finally start this.
wanted to make the 3 first that i already finished years ago... and top the whole thing
with a brand new title i never played :D

i also never played the one on snes
Don't ever play the ones on snes...ever.  Forget Ys V exists.  It's only ok for some music.

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Re: Ys IV
« Reply #20 on: September 02, 2016, 03:21:58 AM »
I liked Ys V, its different (although closer to modern Ys games than the old ones).  I think it gets a bad rap and is a better game than people give it credit for.  Personally I liked it more than Ys III.

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« Reply #21 on: September 02, 2016, 06:23:53 AM »
I'll join in escarioth - I also have only played the snes version - and for many years that was the only Ys I'd have played up until my recent play through of book 1 and 2 that was amazing albeit marred by CD Drive issues causing cut scene audio to skip. I will gladly join you in a play through of Ys 3 when you get to it, and hopefully can keep pace. The brevity of the Ys games seems to make that possible, maybe we should start a separate thread and call it "End of Summer Ys 3 play through thread" :)

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Re: Ys IV
« Reply #22 on: September 02, 2016, 06:37:06 AM »
I really tried to like Ys V,  but it was so snesified it was kind of a turnoff.  It felt just like another snes/sfc game and not anything special like the other Ys games.  I can understand some liking Ys V over III, but I love the first 4 titles.  Ys V was hard for me to keep playing through.  Again though, it has some beautiful music.

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« Reply #23 on: September 02, 2016, 08:37:17 AM »
I really tried to like Ys V,  but it was so snesified it was kind of a turnoff.  It felt just like another snes/sfc game and not anything special like the other Ys games.  I can understand some liking Ys V over III, but I love the first 4 titles.  Ys V was hard for me to keep playing through.  Again though, it has some beautiful music.

Snesified? Is that because the graphics were much better? Because they were. Many of the backgrounds had much nicer color depth and detail. Some areas remind me of the top down sections in Legend of Xanadu 2.

I also liked the attack button. It was a nice change of pace, and it works well in the modern games.

My problem with Ys V is that it was too easy to grind, get money and kill bosses. You could really abuse the option system. Magic was also disappointing. It was also shorter than Ys IV. I'm not sure if these issues were fixed in Ys V expert.

Regardless, Ys IV pce is my favorite out of all the retro games in the series.

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Re: Ys IV
« Reply #24 on: September 02, 2016, 08:50:59 AM »
I don't know about 'snesified' but Ys V doesn't feel as much like an Ys game; the sprite proportions are all wrong for 'cute lil falcom sprites' and there's no border and hud.
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Re: Ys IV
« Reply #25 on: September 02, 2016, 01:37:39 PM »
It's definitely a big change, though you can see the flow of where they were going.   I don't know if I would say it doesn't feel like an Ys game though.  V has much more in common with VI, VII, and the modern remakes than it does with the first 4 games.  If you can accept the modern ones, I think V fits in there.  It's kind of like the missing link between the original style and modern Ys.  I really enjoyed it though, it is definitely short, though not as short as III.  If you know what you're doing and are good you can easily beat III in like 4 - 5 hours. 


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Re: Ys IV
« Reply #26 on: September 02, 2016, 03:23:03 PM »
It's definitely a big change, though you can see the flow of where they were going.   I don't know if I would say it doesn't feel like an Ys game though.  V has much more in common with VI, VII, and the modern remakes than it does with the first 4 games.  If you can accept the modern ones, I think V fits in there.  It's kind of like the missing link between the original style and modern Ys.  I really enjoyed it though, it is definitely short, though not as short as III.  If you know what you're doing and are good you can easily beat III in like 4 - 5 hours.

I have never considered playing V, but you putting it in line with VII, which I consider to be an absolute jewel, is making me want to check it out.

I know nostalgia plays a big role in this, but I & II are still my favorites, with Book I being my absolute favorite. I love the simple elegance the game brings, and, maybe because of its brevity, it's still enjoyable to play through to this day.

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Re: Ys IV
« Reply #27 on: September 05, 2016, 11:56:50 PM »
Well its more about the feel of it.  You can see where they were planning on going if that makes sense.  V is very much the start of modern Ys, as opposed to classic Ys, but I digress.

So I wanted to see if anyone else noticed this about Ys IV, or more specifically the dubbed version.  I have a Turboeverdrive 2.4 and normally I just leave it in and use the modded system 3.01 bios with it.  With the patched version of Ys IV though I noticed the game really doesn't like that.  If I run it with the the modded for everdrive bios I get a lot of lock ups, graphical glitches and other issues.  If I play the game without the everdrive in the system, and using just the Duo's bios, I get none of these issues.   Has anyone else run into this?  I guess I should also mention I'm playing on a PCE Duo.   

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Re: Ys IV
« Reply #28 on: September 06, 2016, 02:38:46 AM »
The biggest problem Ys V has is that it's titled "Ys". If it wasn't officially an Ys game, it could just be another forgettable hack 'n slash adventure game worth playing through once, instead of being terribly disappointing.
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Re: Ys IV
« Reply #29 on: September 06, 2016, 12:55:44 PM »
Well its more about the feel of it.  You can see where they were planning on going if that makes sense.  V is very much the start of modern Ys, as opposed to classic Ys, but I digress.

So I wanted to see if anyone else noticed this about Ys IV, or more specifically the dubbed version.  I have a Turboeverdrive 2.4 and normally I just leave it in and use the modded system 3.01 bios with it.  With the patched version of Ys IV though I noticed the game really doesn't like that.  If I run it with the the modded for everdrive bios I get a lot of lock ups, graphical glitches and other issues.  If I play the game without the everdrive in the system, and using just the Duo's bios, I get none of these issues.   Has anyone else run into this?  I guess I should also mention I'm playing on a PCE Duo.   

 I haven't experienced this, but it could be that the game is doing something it shouldn't (writing to areas that are rom, which are normally fine on original system card games). Gate of Thunder tries to write to rom addresses on the system card. So maybe Ys IV has some left over development things that normally don't affect the regular system cards, but is writing to ED specific registers. I dunno. Would you mind posting this in the DEV section? There's a sticky for T.ED development or something related.