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otterboxer

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Anywhere else for PCE translations?
« on: August 26, 2016, 10:10:46 AM »
hey, i know about http://www.romhacking.net/ (like most on here i expect) but are there any other sites specifically for pce translations? i've looked about but cant really find any.

Mainly wondering as i cant read japanese and really want to get into both Nazo no Masquerade and Benkei gaiden and as far as i can make out both are pretty much abandoned projects on romhacking.

« Last Edit: August 26, 2016, 10:40:26 AM by otterboxer »
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Re: Anywhere else for PCE translations?
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2016, 01:32:18 PM »
There are mine for Xak III and Ys IV as well as Motekke Tamago.

http://www.ysutopia.net/projects/ys4/

http://www.ysutopia.net/projects/xakiii/
http://www.ysutopia.net/projects/xak3/

http://www.ysutopia.net/projects/mt/

And the next one I'm managing that's down the pike is Emerald Dragon:

http://www.ysutopia.net/forums/index.php?topic=431.0

It seems you're asking more about where to go to lobby people to translate the particular games you're interested in, and RHDN is actually the place for that, here too. But I've never heard any interest in the games you've mentioned so far... It's really not usually up to random members of the public actually; the way it happens is those of us that really loved the system and genres like RPGs where a translation is really critical (versus say an action game where it's not) just decide to pick the best titles or those that present the least difficultly to start off...

Fans who work on these games might have to spend months to years on them, so that relies a lot on self-interest, and not that of random people asking for this or that game to get translated, etc. PCE already was a niche system, so there're even less places/forums to go than SNES and others, another underdog aspect which is why we haven't seen as much fan hacks/translations in comparison.

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Re: Anywhere else for PCE translations?
« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2016, 01:00:04 AM »
Thanks for the info. Not a random person fwiw as you alluded too twice. And i'm not lobbying i was curious in case someone had taken it upon themselves to do a translation for either game and i was missing it while searching.

Nazo no masquerade was being translated according to romhacking but was kind of abandoned as far as i can tell.

If anyone else has any thoughts that's cool. Just don't try too hard to read between the lines of my question it really is just that, a question.
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Re: Anywhere else for PCE translations?
« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2016, 01:29:18 AM »
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Re: Anywhere else for PCE translations?
« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2016, 04:52:03 AM »
A user named Validus has done a bunch of translations over at romhacking.net.

He also announced that he's the one doing the Legend of Xanadu translations.
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Re: Anywhere else for PCE translations?
« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2016, 05:46:46 AM »
A user named Validus has done a bunch of translations over at romhacking.net.

He also announced that he's the one doing the Legend of Xanadu translations.

Shut up! That dude is insane.

QUESTION: the A long time ago, someone named "Validis" (or Validius) on Magic Engine boards claimed to have scanned all the TG-16 manuals with help of his brother. He posted link to tons of manuals, but I didn't check most of them (I downloaded a few).

He ran scans through OCR, he claimed, so text was searchable.

Does anyone remember this?

I have always wondered if it was the same person...and who really scanned all those manuals (if they were actually scanned. 
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Re: Anywhere else for PCE translations?
« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2016, 06:06:57 AM »
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someone named "Validis" (or Validius) on Magic Engine boards claimed to have scanned all the TG-16 manuals with help of his brother.

Don't remember that.
But a long time ago (in a galaxy far, far away) I started scanning and ocr'ing my tg16 manuals for
a site called "The Dump".  600dpi scans take a long time to upload at 56K.

Always wondered what happened to those files...

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Re: Anywhere else for PCE translations?
« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2016, 07:19:19 AM »
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someone named "Validis" (or Validius) on Magic Engine boards claimed to have scanned all the TG-16 manuals with help of his brother.

Don't remember that.
But a long time ago (in a galaxy far, far away) I started scanning and ocr'ing my tg16 manuals for
a site called "The Dump".  600dpi scans take a long time to upload at 56K.

Always wondered what happened to those files...

Ha! I still have a few manuals, allegedly from Validus @magicengine save somewhere. Perhaps there is metadata on the file. Did you include anything in the manuals/metadata?

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Re: Anywhere else for PCE translations?
« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2016, 07:46:20 AM »
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Perhaps there is metadata on the file. Did you include anything in the manuals/metadata?

Only if it was done by default. This was a long time ago; Magic Engine was still Dos based, iirc. Like version 1.3,  before all the gui stuff.
Basically, I ran them through the scanner, saved the files, and ran PaperPort (I think) to ocr them.
Then I fixed any obvious errors in notepad, zipped them and sent them along.

The guy that ran the dump had a nice collection of them, from what I remember. I wasn't the only one doing it; I started at 'A' and another guy started at 'Z', so most of the ones that were missing were from the middle letters. The manual page would update every 2 weeks or so, with 10-20 new manuals.

Those were the days.... :)

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Re: Anywhere else for PCE translations?
« Reply #9 on: August 27, 2016, 09:09:04 AM »
Thanks for the info. Not a random person fwiw as you alluded too twice. And i'm not lobbying i was curious in case someone had taken it upon themselves to do a translation for either game and i was missing it while searching.

Nazo no masquerade was being translated according to romhacking but was kind of abandoned as far as i can tell.

If anyone else has any thoughts that's cool. Just don't try too hard to read between the lines of my question it really is just that, a question.

I'm not sure why you're seemingly taking offense over that post, it was just conversation in this area... You're counting how many times random was used ?? And think that somehow wasn't an appropriate choice of word ?

I'm also not sure why you're denying there's an inherent form of lobbying here (you want certain games translated, and hope someone, somewhere will start or continue projects on them), but it wasn't an ironclad judgement given my phrasing. There wasn't an implied criticism in lobbying (unless it's excessive). Pointing to great games could lead to them getting under somebody's radar, it's not impossible, but the point I was making is that don't hold your breath in that regard, and that the interest usually has to come from the hacker/fan translation team. Members of the public, random or "not random," whatever, aren't the deciding main factor given the investment that goes into them (%/odds are small you could get someone to translate something you like is all I'm saying).

Anyway, I don't think we can use Google any better than you can, but another recent PCE translation site that popped up and I was reminded of is by cabbage: http://pce.lifeabroad.org/. He did a recent translation on "Valkyrie no Densetsu," a Namco game. That'd be one to keep in mind, but for the most part, you can usually find most everything from RHDN which you already know and you won't really find a PCE-dedicated equivalent (if you want a straight answer to your question). Also, we have other members here working on "Legend of Xanadu I & II" in case you don't know given you're a newly registered member.

P.S. Mooz can be found on #utopiasoft on #efnet, the guy who started the "Nazo no Masquerade" project you're interested in. I would simply contact him to see what's going on with it. He's also a registered member here, so a simple PM would do.
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Re: Anywhere else for PCE translations?
« Reply #10 on: August 27, 2016, 11:23:43 AM »
Thanks for the info. Not a random person fwiw as you alluded too twice. And i'm not lobbying i was curious in case someone had taken it upon themselves to do a translation for either game and i was missing it while searching.

Nazo no masquerade was being translated according to romhacking but was kind of abandoned as far as i can tell.

If anyone else has any thoughts that's cool. Just don't try too hard to read between the lines of my question it really is just that, a question.
You have 22 posts and have been a member here all of 2 weeks according to your profile.  Unless I'm missing something, you seem like a rando to me.  A thin-skinned one at that.

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Re: Anywhere else for PCE translations?
« Reply #11 on: August 27, 2016, 12:22:43 PM »
Heh, thanks schweaty, I was thinking the same thing, but I didn't wanna go Trump on this - I wanted to maintain polite conversation as I didn't feel this should lead to any conflict. ;) Dunno why we can't have civil discourse on something like this, and I was kinda surprised how my post was misinterpreted as criticism which got him somewhat defensive. I leave it to Necro to throw pennies at the freshmen, that's not my style. Heh-heh.

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Re: Anywhere else for PCE translations?
« Reply #12 on: August 27, 2016, 09:18:43 PM »
Thanks for the info. Not a random person fwiw as you alluded too twice. And i'm not lobbying i was curious in case someone had taken it upon themselves to do a translation for either game and i was missing it while searching.

Nazo no masquerade was being translated according to romhacking but was kind of abandoned as far as i can tell.

If anyone else has any thoughts that's cool. Just don't try too hard to read between the lines of my question it really is just that, a question.
You have 22 posts and have been a member here all of 2 weeks according to your profile.  Unless I'm missing something, you seem like a rando to me.  A thin-skinned one at that.

nah i just dont tolerate crap on any forum. be my ignore buddy?
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Re: Anywhere else for PCE translations?
« Reply #13 on: August 27, 2016, 09:20:34 PM »
cant see what night wolf guy wrote so i'm gonna assume its a warm welcome/apology for getting it wrong and hurting my feelings. lets just wipe the slate and move on. I got me some lobbying to do!
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Re: Anywhere else for PCE translations?
« Reply #14 on: August 28, 2016, 01:58:41 AM »
First thing you do here is ignoring one of the most respected/active guy here? Who answers far kinder to your dumb asking than he should have?

Very clever.

Edit: Ah, didn't see your sig. Good troll man.
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