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Black Tiger

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Re: Gate of Thunder - Remastered by Electrohaze
« Reply #30 on: November 22, 2016, 04:31:33 AM »
Finally got around to doing a comparison video of Remastered vs. Original of Electrohaze's work on Download 2.

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I haven't tried any of these, but judging from this video, the remastered tracks are too loud and overpower the sound effects. Some of the higher pitched instruments stand out while the rest seem lost in the background and I have to lower the volume to handle those main instruments, which pretty much loses the sound effects altogether. It seems like the remastered tracks might be better to listen to on their own depending on personal preference, but as they are in that video, they don't function as background music and Download 2 already had a good balance between sound effects and bgm.
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Re: Gate of Thunder - Remastered by Electrohaze
« Reply #31 on: November 22, 2016, 12:35:05 PM »
Unlike Black_Tiger, I hate when SFX are too loud. I much prefer the remastered version, even if there are some "flaws" with it :)
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Re: Gate of Thunder - Remastered by Electrohaze
« Reply #32 on: November 24, 2016, 01:42:28 AM »
Unlike Black_Tiger, I hate when SFX are too loud. I much prefer the remastered version, even if there are some "flaws" with it :)
I agree. I really hate how the sfx overpower the bgm in GoT. I prefer louder music, especially when the music is such a showcase as in the Thunder games.

If the music is more ambient, elevator type music, then I don't mind it being quieter and more in the background.

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Re: Gate of Thunder - Remastered by Electrohaze
« Reply #33 on: November 24, 2016, 01:41:49 PM »
What sound system are you guys using to play this stuff?  I'm running mine through a Pioneer sx 650 with the bass levels upticked a hair, and it sounds plenty good with near max volume (the only way to play).  If anything, I would adjust volume level on sfx a bit lower, but I have no issue with low volume here!

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Re: Gate of Thunder - Remastered by Electrohaze
« Reply #34 on: November 27, 2016, 09:47:54 AM »
Awesome, I can't wait to check out the LoT remix! Link is broken, though...

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Re: Gate of Thunder - Remastered by Electrohaze
« Reply #35 on: November 27, 2016, 10:04:04 AM »
Awesome, I can't wait to check out the LoT remix! Link is broken, though...

If you're interested, soon he's going to make a nice custom double CD case for Lords and Gate together. With printed labels, etc.

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Re: Gate of Thunder - Remastered by Electrohaze
« Reply #36 on: November 29, 2016, 12:58:58 PM »
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I haven't tried any of these, but judging from this video, the remastered tracks are too loud and overpower the sound effects. Some of the higher pitched instruments stand out while the rest seem lost in the background and I have to lower the volume to handle those main instruments, which pretty much loses the sound effects altogether. It seems like the remastered tracks might be better to listen to on their own depending on personal preference, but as they are in that video, they don't function as background music and Download 2 already had a good balance between sound effects and bgm.

Of course I may be a bit biased (since I made it), but I disagree 100%. The music was recorded at WAY TO LOW of volume levels. The sound effects overpower the music. I took great care in this project to make sure the the music louder and sound better, but NEVER over power the sound effects. Download 2 is one of my all time favorite games, after the remaster project I actually played through the entire remastered version.  Trust me, I know this game and it's sound VERY WELL. As I have cleared the original MANY TIMES.  Anyway, I did not hear any sound effects overpowered by the music during my play-through. If this was the case, I would have gone in and fixed it. YouTube does give you a pretty good idea, but it's not perfect. It's been heavily processed. It's not a true 100% representation of the experience.

I understand what you are saying, and I value your opinion BT. But I think Download 2 has some of the worst balance between sound effects and music out of almost any other PCE CD game ever released. 

As for listening to the music on it's own. Sure it will sound ok, but If that was my intention, I would have actually mastered the audio at even higher levels. In the case of Download 2, I did still hold back to allow the sound effects to be heard...

Of course, everyone's ears are different and everyone has the right to their own opinion. I, however think this is a perfect balance and must be tried for real before a final opinion can be made.
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Re: Gate of Thunder - Remastered by Electrohaze
« Reply #37 on: November 29, 2016, 01:06:24 PM »
I bought one, and I think the level of the music is actually complimentary to the sound effects now as opposed to before where the BGM sounded like it was hiding "behind" the SFX. The two actually compliment each other more than before. I've listened to it on a small CRT and also running through my Pioneer RX-721

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Re: Gate of Thunder - Remastered by Electrohaze
« Reply #38 on: December 02, 2016, 04:57:43 AM »
From my personal experience remastering tracks for Super Raiden, PCE/TG CD games should be normalized down to about -20db RMS

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Re: Gate of Thunder - Remastered by Electrohaze
« Reply #39 on: February 17, 2017, 01:52:34 AM »
Hey kids,

I am giving away ONE of the two mock-up copies of "Gate and Lords of Thunder - Remastered"
I made before the 50 something batch I made (which in now gone) :dance:

It features a large laminated printout out the most excellent pinup girl drawn for the inside cover, special "doofy the dragon" stickers, and candy!  :lol:

Contest ends Monday 02/20/17 at midnight Tokyo Standard Time.  :pray:

Details on how to enter are in my Facebook group here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/269631716731726/



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Re: Gate of Thunder - Remastered by Electrohaze
« Reply #40 on: February 17, 2017, 02:17:19 AM »
Only for FB peeps.  Lame.  :P

Cute girly though.
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Re: Gate of Thunder - Remastered by Electrohaze
« Reply #41 on: February 17, 2017, 02:20:10 AM »
Only for FB peeps.  Lame.  :P

Cute girly though.

Why did I know this was coming.  ](*,)

Even my 90 year old uncle is on Facebook dude. Anyway, I shall give the forums an exclusive contest too in the future! : :dance:
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Re: Gate of Thunder - Remastered by Electrohaze
« Reply #42 on: February 17, 2017, 02:27:13 AM »
Please enter me into the raffle.
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Re: Gate of Thunder - Remastered by Electrohaze
« Reply #43 on: February 17, 2017, 02:42:52 AM »
Only for FB peeps.  Lame.  :P

Cute girly though.

Just use your fake alt account and sign up!!

Electrohaze- good on you for sharing the love!  You put a shit ton of effort into your remastery and hope some lucky PCFXer gets to experience it soon!!

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Re: Gate of Thunder - Remastered by Electrohaze
« Reply #44 on: February 17, 2017, 02:49:49 AM »
What Josh said, lol.
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