Is this really a PCE???

[elmer]

This guy seems to claim that he's making chiptunes on the PCE with MML using Husic ...

http://soundcloud.com/ropchiptune

I can hear *some* PCE in there, but it sure sounds to *me* like there's one heck of a lot of high-resolution samples, and low-end bass samples, too.

What do other folks think ... legit or ... not?

[Black Tiger]

I've heard all of those sounds in music from commercial games. Even the samples sound like they just took them from games like Fighting Run.

[Mednafen]

http://rophon.music.coocan.jp/chiptune.htm

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[Arkhan]

SOME of those are, I think.  Not all of them. 

I know you can get some of that stuff out of Squirrel because I've done most of it via f*cking around.

The one Mednafen mentions is pretty easy to do honestly.    

That style of music is definitely not my kind of fun to make though.   lol

[elmer]

Well ... ... ... *excellent*, someone in Japan still loves the old-girl!   

It's not my kind of music, and I don't think that there exist enough drugs on the planet to really get me up dancing to it, but it's impressive-as-heck to hear!

There *are* some samples in there, but they're actually pretty small sizes and not the abominations that some folks are using in deflemask.

I didn't realize that Husic support samples, and well, it sure *looks* like pretty-much all the kinds of stuff that I'd expect in a good music driver from BITD.

Basically ... wow! 

[Bonknuts]

Husic supports samples??? I guess it's superior in one way to the syscard player then.

But yeah, nothing sounds out of range in these examples for PCE, to me (the PCE ones).

[Arkhan]

The songs themselves are sort of gross.   They're that weird like "lets get f*cked up and flail in the dark" music.   Not enough melody, too much ncgngcngcngcngncgncgncgncgn noise.

Still sounds cool, though.  lol

I am pretty sure, yea, Husic supports samples.    When I looked at it years ago, I didn't see a good way to get it working in a project where the CD player (Insanity was on CD) was just sitting there with a thing ready to be molested.

I'll have to go revisit HuSic now, knowing more than like 8 years ago. 

[elmer]

The songs themselves are sort of gross.   They're that weird like "lets get f*cked up and flail in the dark" music.   Not enough melody, too much ncgngcngcngcngncgncgncgncgn noise.

So, I see that you've been to some raves then! 

[Arkhan]

The songs themselves are sort of gross.   They're that weird like "lets get f*cked up and flail in the dark" music.   Not enough melody, too much ncgngcngcngcngncgncgncgncgn noise.

So, I see that you've been to some raves then! 

Yeah... this music has a specific usage.  lol

It would be good music for a game like Download, though.

[fragmare]

Dude, Speedy from over on the Deflemask forums did a near perfect version of Go Straight from Streets of Rage 2 on the HuC6280.  Apparently, this whole thing about the PC-Engine not doing bass very well is crap... give it some beefy DDA samples, make sure they're cranked up and in the right format, and you're good to go.  So it would seem, anyway.

Here, I've EQ'ed it a bit:
https://soundcloud.com/user-716572978/go-straight-yuzo-koshiro-pc-engineturbografx-16-arrangement-speedy

That kick bass and clap sample, though... mmmmmmm good stuff.

Also, if you go into the DMF file and turn off channel 3, it makes virtually no audible difference, so using this in-game would have been a very real possibility if you had to leave a channel open for sound effects.  The drum samples still sound pretty good at 8-bit/7khz too.  It's almost depressing to think about it haha... if Yuzo had worked for Hudson or NEC Ave.

Hearing this, I'm really not surprised at the examples you gave.  In the right hands the HuC6280 sounds amazing.

[esteban]

In general:

The history for the page mednafen linked to is intriguing. Look at all those years of dedication and effort for PCE...MUZIQUE...I will have to listen to all of the songs.



"Haters" (aka "polite dissenters"):
I don't mind this genre(s) of music...naturally, I take a break for tea when necessary. I'm not a heathen.



Fragmare: Streets of Rage on PCE, I hope it lives up to the hype. Isn't it best *not* to click on the link and therefore not be disappointed? I know you claimed otherwise...but...

UPDATE: ...pending... Wait, I remember listening to this before. It was mentioned in the forums...it is a nice cover of the song...but...

[Necromancer]

It's not my choice in tunes, but it's cool that they're coming out of the Turbob.

It made me think of Stewie:

[technozombie]

I just listened to the first two tracks, but it sounds like something from Super Hexagon.

[Digi.k]

Dude, Speedy from over on the Deflemask forums did a near perfect version of Go Straight from Streets of Rage 2 on the HuC6280.  Apparently, this whole thing about the PC-Engine not doing bass very well is crap... give it some beefy DDA samples, make sure they're cranked up and in the right format, and you're good to go.  So it would seem, anyway.

Here, I've EQ'ed it a bit:
https://soundcloud.com/user-716572978/go-straight-yuzo-koshiro-pc-engineturbografx-16-arrangement-speedy

That kick bass and clap sample, though... mmmmmmm good stuff.

Also, if you go into the DMF file and turn off channel 3, it makes virtually no audible difference, so using this in-game would have been a very real possibility if you had to leave a channel open for sound effects.  The drum samples still sound pretty good at 8-bit/7khz too.  It's almost depressing to think about it haha... if Yuzo had worked for Hudson or NEC Ave.

Hearing this, I'm really not surprised at the examples you gave.  In the right hands the HuC6280 sounds amazing.

haven't been able to stop listening to this!  NEED MOAR!!

[Arkhan]

Dude, Speedy from over on the Deflemask forums did a near perfect version of Go Straight from Streets of Rage 2 on the HuC6280.  Apparently, this whole thing about the PC-Engine not doing bass very well is crap... give it some beefy DDA samples, make sure they're cranked up and in the right format, and you're good to go.  So it would seem, anyway.

Here, I've EQ'ed it a bit:
https://soundcloud.com/user-716572978/go-straight-yuzo-koshiro-pc-engineturbografx-16-arrangement-speedy

That kick bass and clap sample, though... mmmmmmm good stuff.

Also, if you go into the DMF file and turn off channel 3, it makes virtually no audible difference, so using this in-game would have been a very real possibility if you had to leave a channel open for sound effects.  The drum samples still sound pretty good at 8-bit/7khz too.  It's almost depressing to think about it haha... if Yuzo had worked for Hudson or NEC Ave.

Hearing this, I'm really not surprised at the examples you gave.  In the right hands the HuC6280 sounds amazing.

right but if you're using a sample to achieve bass, it just proves the point that the regular chip-generating can't really get the right sound otherwise, lol.