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Trenton_net

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Re: Double Dragon 2 (PC Engine) Vs. Double Dragon 2 (Nes)
« Reply #15 on: February 08, 2017, 05:08:29 AM »
In my humble opinion, PCE > NES port of DD2. The reason being, the PCE port is just more capable. More colors, CD Quality music, intros and cut-scenes, etc. It's not that the NES port is bad, it's just that it's hamstrung by the physical limitations of the NES. Had the PCE port been butchered, like the game Golden Axe for example, then I'd agree the NES version wins hands down.

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Re: Double Dragon 2 (PC Engine) Vs. Double Dragon 2 (Nes)
« Reply #16 on: February 09, 2017, 12:57:14 AM »
The PCE Port is better because it is HOT WILD.

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Re: Double Dragon 2 (PC Engine) Vs. Double Dragon 2 (Nes)
« Reply #17 on: February 09, 2017, 04:20:49 AM »
I like the PCE version, but there is something infinitely better about the aesthetics of the NES version.

Now, to be fair, I played the hell out of the NES version and it really is one of my faves...so I might be biased.

Even really annoying parts in the NES game (e.g. the bricks that suddenly slide out of the wall...all the tricky jumping)...even that can't stop me from loving the NES version.

That said, I enjoy the PCE version and I had an epiphany, many moons ago, that the soundtrack is an under-appreciated element of the PCE port.
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Re: Double Dragon 2 (PC Engine) Vs. Double Dragon 2 (Nes)
« Reply #18 on: February 09, 2017, 07:12:34 AM »


I like the PCE version, but there is something infinitely better about the aesthetics of the NES version.


That something is simply that the NES sprites are better-drawn.

I am surprised (though considering the forum, I probably shouldn't be) that for all the talk about how better the PCE version looks, no one mentions how the sprites just look... silly or worse than the arcade (or even NES) counterparts. Just compare how Burnov is drawn:





The spritework is inconsistent and in some cases (like above) a little amateurish. Bigger with more colors =/= better.

That being said, despite its looks (cutscenes aside) the PCE remake is still a very good game, though imo the NES port plays a little bit better and it is possible to chain more attacks together for combos (there's a little bit of downtime that makes all the difference in this version).

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Re: Double Dragon 2 (PC Engine) Vs. Double Dragon 2 (Nes)
« Reply #19 on: February 09, 2017, 12:53:14 PM »


I like the PCE version, but there is something infinitely better about the aesthetics of the NES version.


That something is simply that the NES sprites are better-drawn.

I am surprised (though considering the forum, I probably shouldn't be) that for all the talk about how better the PCE version looks, no one mentions how the sprites just look... silly or worse than the arcade (or even NES) counterparts. Just compare how Burnov is drawn:





The spritework is inconsistent and in some cases (like above) a little amateurish. Bigger with more colors =/= better.

That being said, despite its looks (cutscenes aside) the PCE remake is still a very good game, though imo the NES port plays a little bit better and it is possible to chain more attacks together for combos (there's a little bit of downtime that makes all the difference in this version).



yes, it's goofy looking, but the gameplay is much better than the NES, the point being, though it's good, does it justify the high price for the pc engine version of this game?, now that's hard question

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Re: Double Dragon 2 (PC Engine) Vs. Double Dragon 2 (Nes)
« Reply #20 on: February 10, 2017, 01:47:19 PM »
does it justify the high price for the pc engine version of this game?, now that's hard question

Hell to the no.  eBay sellers are on crack.

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Re: Double Dragon 2 (PC Engine) Vs. Double Dragon 2 (Nes)
« Reply #21 on: February 12, 2017, 10:32:39 PM »
PC-Engine version.  All.  Day.  Long.

It's like, the only decent scrolling beat-em-up on the system.

imparanoic

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Re: Double Dragon 2 (PC Engine) Vs. Double Dragon 2 (Nes)
« Reply #22 on: February 13, 2017, 01:15:12 PM »
does it justify the high price for the pc engine version of this game?, now that's hard question


Hell to the no.  eBay sellers are on crack.


its noted that it's not cheap in japan either, quite a rare game

http://page9.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/k200871677

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« Reply #23 on: February 13, 2017, 11:02:04 PM »
To be fair, that auction has no bids on it yet, but it's not necessarily out of line with recent sales, which have been in the 7500-12,000 yen range.

I paid 3200 yen for a copy in 2010: looks like it has escalated in price since then.

esteban

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Double Dragon 2 (PC Engine) Vs. Double Dragon 2 (Nes)
« Reply #24 on: February 15, 2017, 09:14:53 AM »
To be fair, that auction has no bids on it yet, but it's not necessarily out of line with recent sales, which have been in the 7500-12,000 yen range.

I paid 3200 yen for a copy in 2010: looks like it has escalated in price since then.


 

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Re: Double Dragon 2 (PC Engine) Vs. Double Dragon 2 (Nes)
« Reply #25 on: February 16, 2017, 04:45:37 AM »
hot hot hot hot wild.  HOT WILD.

"Good Evening!"

I love both games, I think the PCE game is an overall easier game, but the complete product of the NES game makes it a slightly better game.  I want to say that I conquered DD2 on PCE the very first time I played it.

NES DD2 > PCE DD2 > Arcade Original

Odd?

esteban

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Double Dragon 2 (PC Engine) Vs. Double Dragon 2 (Nes)
« Reply #26 on: February 16, 2017, 08:20:00 AM »
They say the sea is cold...
http://junk.tg-16.com/audio/Double_Dragon_II/Track08.mp3


Hot.
Wild.

I would love to hear NES, with samples, pumping out a rendition of that unique PCE track.
« Last Edit: February 16, 2017, 08:26:06 AM by esteban »
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Re: Double Dragon 2 (PC Engine) Vs. Double Dragon 2 (Nes)
« Reply #27 on: February 16, 2017, 11:07:53 AM »
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The spritework is inconsistent and in some cases (like above) a little amateurish. Bigger with more colors =/= better.

That being said, despite its looks (cutscenes aside) the PCE remake is still a very good game, though imo the NES port plays a little bit better and it is possible to chain more attacks together for combos (there's a little bit of downtime that makes all the difference in this version).


Double Dragon games have always had fugly sprites and the NES version isn't great itself, even if it was well done considering the source material and target platform.

With that said, I'm not a fan of any version of DDII and the player sprites in particular have always been a turn off for me. But it's mostly a color issue, as like most PCE games, the developer didn't make good use of the console's color potential.

Here's what a color hack can do, changing nothing but the existing palette and not changing any pixels or moving any pixel's color to one not already shared with it:




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Re: Double Dragon 2 (PC Engine) Vs. Double Dragon 2 (Nes)
« Reply #28 on: February 16, 2017, 11:18:44 AM »
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The spritework is inconsistent and in some cases (like above) a little amateurish. Bigger with more colors =/= better.

That being said, despite its looks (cutscenes aside) the PCE remake is still a very good game, though imo the NES port plays a little bit better and it is possible to chain more attacks together for combos (there's a little bit of downtime that makes all the difference in this version).


Double Dragon games have always had fugly sprites and the NES version isn't great itself, even if it was well done considering the source material and target platform.

With that said, I'm not a fan of any version of DDII and the player sprites in particular have always been a turn off for me. But it's mostly a color issue, as like most PCE games, the developer didn't make good use of the console's color potential.

Here's what a color hack can do, changing nothing but the existing palette and not changing any pixels or moving any pixel's color to one not already shared with it:







This I like...

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Re: Double Dragon 2 (PC Engine) Vs. Double Dragon 2 (Nes)
« Reply #29 on: February 16, 2017, 11:51:00 AM »
Jimmy:




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