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Re: PCE FPGA
« Reply #30 on: March 07, 2017, 08:41:55 PM »
OK, to be fair, that thread wasn't just Profprof being a dick.   Others of us were a bit apprehensive of the happenings of the mod and the auctions.   I would really like to think that wasn't what pissed the guy off, because it wasn't particularly horrible, and you have to expect questions and shit like that when you are on the internet.

That SmokeMonster guy was also a giant dong with poor reading and comprehension abilities.  He didn't help the situation, nor did DarkKobold really.   Necromancer even had to say shut the hell up at one point.   

Did kevtris actually say it was PP that made him pissed off enough to leave?

I didn't reread all of PPs posts.  They're too long, and I ran out of cookies.

I get having a community piss you off to the point of f*cking up your enjoyment though.   

I, being ~13-17ish at the time, was bullied a bit on the Commodore 64 forums by what I came to learn were mouthbreathers/manchildren.    It to this day has made me enjoy that thing less.

I myself have even gotten a little "meh" about the PCE scene, mainly due to what Facebook has done to it, and the attitudes of people.   It really isn't the same. 

I'd say Kevtris was here getting upset around the same time that shit started to it's descent into f*cksville.


[Fri 19:34]<nectarsis> been wanting to try that one for awhile now Ope
[Fri 19:33]<Opethian> l;ol huge dong

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Re: PCE FPGA
« Reply #31 on: March 10, 2017, 08:01:16 PM »
I think this forum can, at times, be one of the less agreeable communities in classic gaming. We're no saints. We have no shortage of drama and a$$holes. Hell, there have been occasions I've wondered if the mods actually mod anything around here.

I myself have even gotten a little "meh" about the PCE scene, mainly due to what Facebook has done to it, and the attitudes of people.   It really isn't the same. 

I'd say Kevtris was here getting upset around the same time that shit started to it's descent into f*cksville.

I pretty much avoid Facebook for anything that's not keeping up with a few friends and family, so I can't speak to your experiences there, but do you have any thoughts on what the community needs to make it more welcoming or more interesting?
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Re: PCE FPGA
« Reply #32 on: March 11, 2017, 05:07:56 PM »
I had a crazy week after my last response and came back to this awesome thread. Thanks for all the responses guys.

As someone who grew up being 1 of 5 people in my hometown with a Turbo back in 1990-1991 and someone who is relatively new to the forums here: I can really see both sides of the argument. I've had nothing but love and respect  for this forum, and received nothing but love and respect from you guys. Thanks for being who we are, the good and the bad.

I think Kevtris could be upset because he has poured heart, souls, and time into these projects. It's a big deal to work that hard at something while some people here in the forums feel there is something chaste and sacred about the pce. Outsiders shouldn't be allowed to love it, and peoeple without original hardware are mud-bloods.

Honestly, I think the healthy discourse about all this stuff is good for our scene. I do feel like the community has been a lot less active this year, so maybe a little anger and nostalgia is what we need? Ha.

Seriously, thanks to everyone who replied with ideas and info about FPGAs as well. I'm interested in getting one of these NES clones. I too truly prefer the look of CRT with scanelimes. I'll be damned if the warped Trinitron Wega screens aren't killing me though. I have an amazing Toshiba flat screen but it's  only a 10 inch screen. Serious dilemmas.
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Re: PCE FPGA
« Reply #33 on: March 11, 2017, 05:29:49 PM »
I pretty much left being active here over that thread too. At the time, it felt like a personalized group attack on Kevtris and Jason (Game-Tech), and those defending them. I definitely went overboard, but it was in defense of Kev and Jason at least. If you look back in retrospect, PP pissed us all off with his unique brand of ranting. Even those of us who never get involved in drama.
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Re: PCE FPGA
« Reply #34 on: March 11, 2017, 05:30:56 PM »
Prof was by no means all bad. He was no collectard or anything like it.

This forum has a rep for busting scammers and sticking up for itself and Prof was a big part of forming that reputation. He was an eBay vigilante that saved real people real money and busted shitty sellers. He just has issues knowing when to take a step back from something. He pisses up every available rope for so long and so hard that soon it's raining piss all over the place. I'm sure he behaves this way because it's worked for him more times than not but he can't seem to know when to cut his losses sometimes. He's well aware of this self control issue and that's why he deleted his account here both times. I think it was his doing both times anyway, I could be wrong.
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Re: PCE FPGA
« Reply #35 on: March 12, 2017, 01:22:45 PM »
Prof was by no means all bad. He was no collectard or anything like it.


Apparently, in your book, collecting too many video games/paying too much is worse than drawing dicks on someone's kids foreheads? Seriously? He stalked people's families, threatened to call child services over a picture of one dirty room, and a myriad of other unforgivable things... Its not surprising that now that he's gone, people are coming out against him. He was scary in how far he'd take things.
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Re: PCE FPGA
« Reply #36 on: March 12, 2017, 04:52:03 PM »
Prof was by no means all bad. He was no collectard or anything like it.


Apparently, in your book, collecting too many video games/paying too much is worse than drawing dicks on someone's kids foreheads? Seriously? He stalked people's families, threatened to call child services over a picture of one dirty room, and a myriad of other unforgivable things... Its not surprising that now that he's gone, people are coming out against him. He was scary in how far he'd take things.


ProfProf's unique brand of vigilante justice has benefited PCEFX more than once.  A lot of it predates your existence here.   What are you even talking about with "stalking people's families"? 

He's honestly incredibly good at getting under people's skin and pressing buttons when people have gotten out of line.   He was also part of the group of people who outted Tobias's shady bullshit.

a lot of the way PCEFX operates stems from having f*ckall in terms of moderation for over a decade.

We became our own moderators, and vigilante justice is how things worked. 

ProfProf is actually a fairly reasonable dude.   You just got into it with him a lot.  You've gotten into it with others too.    Some of that stemmed from you being relatively new, walking in, and throwing punches without really having a proper frame of reference for wtf is going on, or how things operate.



I pretty much avoid Facebook for anything that's not keeping up with a few friends and family, so I can't speak to your experiences there, but do you have any thoughts on what the community needs to make it more welcoming or more interesting?

Facebook breeds shitposting dipshits that either post complete and utter nonsense, or constant barrages of "mail calls" and bins of their games and shit.

Honestly.  We all know what a copy of Ninja Spirit looks like.

Some people here have fallen pretty hard victims of that.

If I had a nickle for everytime Tats posted the same 3 goddamn pictures of his bins of games or his CoreGrafx boxed in response to someone else's mailcall pics, I could probably go convince that idiot with PC Cocoron to actually sell me it.



There's not a great way to fix it.  We'd need more actual PCEFXers to go start posting and keeping things in line.

Currently, I'm one of the only people trying to corral all the dipshits.   It usually leads to people crying, blocking me, and talking shit about me later.

"HE MADE FUN OF ME FOR TRYING TO SELL MY GAME FOR 5X THE REAL PRICE, THEN HE CALLED ME STUPID FOR BUYING A LOOSE TURBO GRAFX FOR 120$"

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[Fri 19:34]<nectarsis> been wanting to try that one for awhile now Ope
[Fri 19:33]<Opethian> l;ol huge dong

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Re: PCE FPGA
« Reply #37 on: March 12, 2017, 06:09:23 PM »

There's not a great way to fix it.  We'd need more actual PCEFXers to go start posting and keeping things in line.

Currently, I'm one of the only people trying to corral all the dipshits.   It usually leads to people crying, blocking me, and talking shit about me later.

"HE MADE FUN OF ME FOR TRYING TO SELL MY GAME FOR 5X THE REAL PRICE, THEN HE CALLED ME STUPID FOR BUYING A LOOSE TURBO GRAFX FOR 120$"

lol

Yes, because "YOU ARE RETARDS 98dfytads897fgsdafubasdfjdaksbnfkadusga" isn't going to change any minds, they'll just think of you as a dipshit. Your methods are about as effective as using gasoline to put out a fire.

Also, the PP shit happened years before I joined. I'm well aware of what PP did under his original Mike Helgeson account. He's a shit human being.
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Re: PCE FPGA
« Reply #38 on: March 12, 2017, 07:20:03 PM »

Yes, because "YOU ARE RETARDS 98dfytads897fgsdafubasdfjdaksbnfkadusga" isn't going to change any minds, they'll just think of you as a dipshit. Your methods are about as effective as using gasoline to put out a fire.

Actually, I've tried politely explaining to people about prices and other misinformation, on numerous occasions.   

You are doing that thing where you make assumptions and act like you have all the information ever on a topic when you open your mouth. 

The real problem is, most #eliteretrogamers don't like to be told they aren't the 100% supreme guru of the thing they just started collecting 30 seconds ago, so they immediately flip the f*ck out and start acting stupid.   They're not looking to be corrected or told they overspent.   They are just looking for attention and praise from strangers online about their new purchase.

There have been countless times were others, not just me, have tried explaining to someone that their facts are wrong, or that they overpaid, or are asking too much.    It almost always results in some new guy rage quitting after he lashes out like an idiot.

It boils down to a general disrespect of senior members when joining a new group.  It's generally poor form to show up out of the blue and start arguing when the people who know better are trying to tell you stuff.

Facebook is terrible about all of this.  Joining gaming groups involves a simple click.  It at least takes 3 more brain cells to register a forum account, and is more effort to post a picture, so the dipshit count is far lower.



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Also, the PP shit happened years before I joined. I'm well aware of what PP did under his original Mike Helgeson account. He's a shit human being.

Curious, honest question:  If you weren't joined here, where are you getting your information from?  Second-hand possibly one-sided games of telephone and shit with forum drama really isn't the best way to formulate a view on someone.

People tend to misremember or misexplain shit when rehashing it later.   It's like when you argue with someone, dwell on it, think about what you should've said, and then that becomes what you DID say when you repeat it later.

It's a thing people do, and it's not reliable.

Mikes headhunting was a bit .. thorough at times, but for alot of those times, there was a legitimate reason for things he was doing.

He did help the PC Engine community on various occasions with things, as well.   Calling someone a shit human being for things you weren't involved in, and weren't there for is a bit ... doofy.
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Re: PCE FPGA
« Reply #39 on: March 13, 2017, 12:18:57 AM »
Mike's research ability is about on par with the National Enquirer. For every one thing he gets right, he gets nine things wrong. He tells so many mistruths and blows so much shit out of proportion that it's impossible to actually take any of it seriously. In the end, he's just talking shit. If he'd stick to actual facts and not try to be an armchair tabloid journalist, maybe people would actually take him seriously. Did it ever occur to anyone that the reason he is so hated is because he talks so much untrue shit?

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Re: PCE FPGA
« Reply #40 on: March 13, 2017, 03:01:09 AM »
LOL at DerpKobold teaching Zeta about Mike.  Zeta's new here.
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Re: PCE FPGA
« Reply #41 on: March 13, 2017, 05:09:07 AM »
Mike/Prof was decidedly an ass. Sometimes he was an asset to the community, but not enough to make it worth tolerating his BS within it. The ends do not justify the means.
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Re: PCE FPGA
« Reply #42 on: March 13, 2017, 05:11:47 AM »
Yeah, as if I didn't clash with that f*ck for a dozen pages or so of posts. As if the one or two photos of me that exist online haven't been located and shopped into "humor" memes by Mike a decade before "meme" became a popular term.

Realistically though, if I had to have breakfast at a giant round table at Denny's with a bunch of PCEFXers Mike is not one of the people I'd refuse to sit with, which is more than I can say about some other people here, people who I doubt I could make peace with for even a half hour because they are such a$$holes. People who I can't imagine ever having one decent conversation with, even if locked in a freezer like Archie and Meathead, because there clearly isn't one overlapping aspect of the human condition that we share. People who's initials are the same as Donkey Kong's.
 

I agree about Facebook, btw. I've dumped almost every group since it really is almost exclusively people posting pictures of shit they bought, often before they've even received it. A lot of "what's your guys' opinion of all this stuff I just bought?" posts, which we occasionally get here. It doesn't matter the subject. The car groups are like this, this synthesizer groups, the robot toy collecting groups. Facebook can ruin anything.
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« Reply #43 on: March 13, 2017, 06:46:24 AM »
kind words

Dennys serves beer right?

Pretty sure I could sit at dennys with most people here then

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« Reply #44 on: March 13, 2017, 06:52:12 AM »
I could sit at Denny's with anyone here...... but like most dinners at Denny's, it's probably gonna end with a knife fight in the parking lot.
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