Author Topic: Should I pick up this Sony Trinitron?  (Read 3669 times)

Gypsy

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Re: Should I pick up this Sony Trinitron?
« Reply #45 on: May 15, 2017, 09:27:29 AM »
Got a tiny little baby pvm on the way. 9'' Ikegami. Tops out at SVideo. Was pretty much dirt cheap considering shipping. I was actually thinking about having a family member pick it up (for safety reasons) as it's in SE Michigan where a lot of my family is but I realized it will probably be at least a year before I'm up there again.

Anyway I'm intrigued to try it out, hopefully it survives the trip.

I still have an 8" Sony PVM. It's portable and has a handle on top so it's easy to just move it to where I need it to quickly test a console or a cable. Kinda tough to play games on it for any period of time.

I've tested various 8/16-bit consoles on a few different monitors and often s-video is almost as good as RGB. The difference between composite and s-video is night and day.

Yeah I'm not sure about it. I grew up old PC gaming on a small monitor so maybe. I'll see how it feels. I've actually been playing some mildly old PC games lately on a 19'' monitor. I know that's over twice as big, which is kind of crazy to think about.

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Re: Should I pick up this Sony Trinitron?
« Reply #46 on: May 15, 2017, 09:44:28 AM »
Got a tiny little baby pvm on the way. 9'' Ikegami. Tops out at SVideo. Was pretty much dirt cheap considering shipping. I was actually thinking about having a family member pick it up (for safety reasons) as it's in SE Michigan where a lot of my family is but I realized it will probably be at least a year before I'm up there again.

Anyway I'm intrigued to try it out, hopefully it survives the trip.

I still have an 8" Sony PVM. It's portable and has a handle on top so it's easy to just move it to where I need it to quickly test a console or a cable. Kinda tough to play games on it for any period of time.

I've tested various 8/16-bit consoles on a few different monitors and often s-video is almost as good as RGB. The difference between composite and s-video is night and day.

Yeah I'm not sure about it. I grew up old PC gaming on a small monitor so maybe. I'll see how it feels. I've actually been playing some mildly old PC games lately on a 19'' monitor. I know that's over twice as big, which is kind of crazy to think about.

Personally, I just have to find the proper *distance* from *any* screen and I can be happy playing.

For the past 2 years, I have been using a tiny 8" Sony and its perfect on my desk (I prefer to be 2-4 feet from the screen).

If I am sitting further away (more than 6 feet), I would prefer a larger screen.





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Re: Should I pick up this Sony Trinitron?
« Reply #47 on: May 15, 2017, 12:38:25 PM »
Are you guys seriously happy with the sub 10inch screens? I know the picture quality is great on PVMs but that sounds like a really big compromise to me.

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Re: Should I pick up this Sony Trinitron?
« Reply #48 on: May 15, 2017, 02:10:37 PM »
You guys reminded me of one of my primary methods of playing my  original TG-16 back in the day, at least before I got a Duo and could finally use something other than an RF connector.  My family had this black and white TV with a tiny screen, maybe like  8" actually.  We got it for camping or something, it had a radio and a kickstand built in.  Eventually, it just ended up in my room and I remember clearly playing Dragon's Curse in B&W on that thing.  Eventually I got a Duo and switched over to composite on my C64 Monitor, which I used for a super long time afterwards until it kicked the bucket.
The Commodore 64 monitor is really sweet for gaming. I keep one in the closet as a backup, I've had it for almost 20 years now.

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Re: Should I pick up this Sony Trinitron?
« Reply #49 on: May 15, 2017, 02:15:30 PM »
I think 8" is too small for regular use.  You can probably play games just fine on a 7" tablet but a tablet can also be angled and adjusted easily if you want to change positions while playing. It's harder to do that with a 30lb cube.

That being said the rugged build and abundance of buttons and inputs makes them inherently cool and there's something enjoyable about using them for gaming, which is so far away from their intended use of monitoring broadcast video feeds and scoping people's rectums.
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Should I pick up this Sony Trinitron?
« Reply #50 on: May 15, 2017, 02:30:27 PM »
Are you guys seriously happy with the sub 10inch screens? I know the picture quality is great on PVMs but that sounds like a really big compromise to me.


 
 
 

Hell yes.

I admit, I like to blast music through subwoofers+speakers.

If that will disturb my family, I plug in fat over-the-ear headphones.

For me, audio is *crucial* for making it immersive. I actually become quite frustrated if I can't adjust audio to my preferences (if a game has horrible audio, I won't blast it, lest I stab my ears with a Push-Pop).

I wear glasses, but my eyesight is very good— I guess (?) —no little detail gets past me if I am playing, even on a tiny screen.

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Re: Should I pick up this Sony Trinitron?
« Reply #51 on: May 15, 2017, 02:35:51 PM »
The Commodore 64 monitor is really sweet for gaming. I keep one in the closet as a backup, I've had it for almost 20 years now.

Besides composite these things have pretty funky inputs right? I've actually not seen one in person but I vaguely remember reading about that. It would be neat to have and I would definitely pick one up in person but they don't seem prevalent at all in my area and shipping would be murder (monetarily and the item might not survive).

Are you guys seriously happy with the sub 10inch screens? I know the picture quality is great on PVMs but that sounds like a really big compromise to me.

For me this is more of a cheap test drive. If I really like the look, I'll get more serious about picking up a 13-14'' unit which is definitely enough screen size for me. I've always got my beast XBR when I want to sit farther back.

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Re: Should I pick up this Sony Trinitron?
« Reply #52 on: May 15, 2017, 02:49:47 PM »
Got a tiny little baby pvm on the way. 9'' Ikegami. Tops out at SVideo. Was pretty much dirt cheap considering shipping. I was actually thinking about having a family member pick it up (for safety reasons) as it's in SE Michigan where a lot of my family is but I realized it will probably be at least a year before I'm up there again.

Anyway I'm intrigued to try it out, hopefully it survives the trip.

I still have an 8" Sony PVM. It's portable and has a handle on top so it's easy to just move it to where I need it to quickly test a console or a cable. Kinda tough to play games on it for any period of time.

I've tested various 8/16-bit consoles on a few different monitors and often s-video is almost as good as RGB. The difference between composite and s-video is night and day.

Yeah I'm not sure about it. I grew up old PC gaming on a small monitor so maybe. I'll see how it feels. I've actually been playing some mildly old PC games lately on a 19'' monitor. I know that's over twice as big, which is kind of crazy to think about.

The difference between 8" and 19" is actually more than 4x.

Screen size is measured diagonally meaning that a 5" screen in 4:3 is 4" by 3", therefore 12 sq in. A 10" screen is 8x6" meaning 48 sq in.

Using the known identity of a 3:4:5 triangle, an 8" screen has 4.8x6.4" so 30.72 sq in. Where a 19" screen is 11.4x15.2" so 173.28 sq in. So about 5.6x (!) the screen size.
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Re: Should I pick up this Sony Trinitron?
« Reply #53 on: May 15, 2017, 02:53:24 PM »
If that will disturb my family, I plug in fat over-the-ear headphones.

For me, audio is *crucial* for making it immersive. I actually become quite frustrated if I can't adjust audio to my preferences (if a game has horrible audio, I won't blast it, lest I stab my ears with a Push-Pop).

I don't crank the volume too loud, but there's nothing quite like gaming with a decent pair of isolating headphones. Even a cheap pair can do wonders for immersion as you said, especially for handheld gaming. That first time using them with the DSi was magical and I rarely play it without them now.



The difference between 8" and 19" is actually more than 4x.

Screen size is measured diagonally meaning that a 5" screen in 4:3 is 4" by 3", therefore 12 sq in. A 10" screen is 8x6" meaning 48 sq in.

Using the known identity of a 3:4:5 triangle, an 8" screen has 4.8x6.4" so 30.72 sq in. Where a 19" screen is 11.4x15.2" so 173.28 sq in. So about 5.6x (!) the screen size.

Pizza math!

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Re: Should I pick up this Sony Trinitron?
« Reply #54 on: May 15, 2017, 02:55:45 PM »
The Commodore 64 monitor is really sweet for gaming. I keep one in the closet as a backup, I've had it for almost 20 years now.

Besides composite these things have pretty funky inputs right? I've actually not seen one in person but I vaguely remember reading about that. It would be neat to have and I would definitely pick one up in person but they don't seem prevalent at all in my area and shipping would be murder (monetarily and the item might not survive).

Are you guys seriously happy with the sub 10inch screens? I know the picture quality is great on PVMs but that sounds like a really big compromise to me.

For me this is more of a cheap test drive. If I really like the look, I'll get more serious about picking up a 13-14'' unit which is definitely enough screen size for me. I've always got my beast XBR when I want to sit farther back.
The 1701 is the one I have, it has composite in the front but it has separate Luma and Chroma plugs on the back. You can order a cheap adapter cable to convert those to svideo, it looks fantastic. The 1084 has RGB also but I've heard the image isn't as sharp.

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Re: Should I pick up this Sony Trinitron?
« Reply #55 on: May 15, 2017, 02:57:36 PM »
Some of my mates often ask what should I buy with the DS, DSi, 3DS, 3DS Xl, New 3ds etc.
I always answer pair of Porta Pros and a decant carrying case. Actually I used to say that back in the GBA days aswell.

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Re: Should I pick up this Sony Trinitron?
« Reply #56 on: May 15, 2017, 03:12:34 PM »
I don't crank the volume too loud, but there's nothing quite like gaming with a decent pair of isolating headphones. Even a cheap pair can do wonders for immersion as you said, especially for handheld gaming. That first time using them with the DSi was magical and I rarely play it without them now.

Right on, no need to use Nintendo's shitty speakers.

The 1701 is the one I have, it has composite in the front but it has separate Luma and Chroma plugs on the back. You can order a cheap adapter cable to convert those to svideo, it looks fantastic. The 1084 has RGB also but I've heard the image isn't as sharp.

Good to know.

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Should I pick up this Sony Trinitron?
« Reply #57 on: May 15, 2017, 03:18:02 PM »

Pizza math!

Yes! Because its size rating increases linearly but its surface area increases as a square. Alternatively, if you want to know the comparison between screen sizes, you just square their comparative sizes i.e. (19/8)^2=5.64x
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Re: Should I pick up this Sony Trinitron?
« Reply #58 on: May 16, 2017, 12:59:03 AM »

 




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Re: Should I pick up this Sony Trinitron?
« Reply #59 on: May 16, 2017, 01:19:59 AM »
Some of my mates often ask what should I buy with the DS, DSi, 3DS, 3DS Xl, New 3ds etc.
I always answer pair of Porta Pros and a decant carrying case. Actually I used to say that back in the GBA days aswell.

The Porta Pros are awesome for the price. I prefer closed-back headphones for gaming and I'm a big fan of the Audio Technica ART series (for gaming and music). The M40 and M50 are also highly regarded but I didn't like the fit of them.